On the Buses

[AnonymouslyBad]

KGS has had problems with rain leaks since day one. I'd also love to know why. It's always platform 2 and it's always the Adelaide St end. KGS seems quite cheaply built, but so does everything surrounding it (QSBS) so it could be a combination of factors.

Brisbane Metro won't make any difference because it's something the state needs to fix.

[verbatim9]

KGS has had problems with rain leaks since day one. I'd also love to know why. It's always platform 2 and it's always the Adelaide St end. KGS seems quite cheaply built, but so does everything surrounding it (QSBS) so it could be a combination of factors.

Brisbane Metro won't make any difference because it's something the state needs to fix.

But there will be upgrades to the Stations, so one would assume they would work with the State Government to fix these issues?

[timh]

KGS has had problems with rain leaks since day one. I'd also love to know why. It's always platform 2 and it's always the Adelaide St end. KGS seems quite cheaply built, but so does everything surrounding it (QSBS) so it could be a combination of factors.

Brisbane Metro won't make any difference because it's something the state needs to fix.

But there will be upgrades to the Stations, so one would assume they would work with the State Government to fix these issues?

Afaik Brisbane Metro isn't really doing anything to KGS.

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[HappyTrainGuy]

Council last year dug into the roof cavity of KGSBS damaging and cracking the roof which is why barricades were set up for a few months. Who would have thought you'd hit something digging directly above a bus station at the narrowest part. Dial before you dig!

[James]

KGS has had problems with rain leaks since day one. I'd also love to know why. It's always platform 2 and it's always the Adelaide St end. KGS seems quite cheaply built, but so does everything surrounding it (QSBS) so it could be a combination of factors.

Brisbane Metro won't make any difference because it's something the state needs to fix.

In my experience KGS tends to have the worst leaks at the Ann St end of Platform 1. After heavy rain the 444 bus stop (1A) always seems to either be shut or have access impaired due to water ingress.

I imagine Metro should be able to cope OK as long as they position the Metro stops away from areas where water typically gets in. Won't be ideal for the remaining services serving KGSBS though, which may end up diverted more frequently.

[verbatim9]

KGS has had problems with rain leaks since day one. I'd also love to know why. It's always platform 2 and it's always the Adelaide St end. KGS seems quite cheaply built, but so does everything surrounding it (QSBS) so it could be a combination of factors.

Brisbane Metro won't make any difference because it's something the state needs to fix.

In my experience KGS tends to have the worst leaks at the Ann St end of Platform 1. After heavy rain the 444 bus stop (1A) always seems to either be shut or have access impaired due to water ingress.

I imagine Metro should be able to cope OK as long as they position the Metro stops away from areas where water typically gets in. Won't be ideal for the remaining services serving KGSBS though, which may end up diverted more frequently.

As most people are aware from the brochures. There will be dynamic auto bus stop allocations for arrivals for metro. It won't be a very efficient or effective service if it rains then? Metro vehicles will be queuing from either direction from Roma street and the Adelaide Street tunnel waiting to stop.

[Otto]

KGS has had problems with rain leaks since day one. I'd also love to know why. It's always platform 2 and it's always the Adelaide St end. KGS seems quite cheaply built, but so does everything surrounding it (QSBS) so it could be a combination of factors.

Brisbane Metro won't make any difference because it's something the state needs to fix.

In my experience KGS tends to have the worst leaks at the Ann St end of Platform 1. After heavy rain the 444 bus stop (1A) always seems to either be shut or have access impaired due to water ingress.

I imagine Metro should be able to cope OK as long as they position the Metro stops away from areas where water typically gets in. Won't be ideal for the remaining services serving KGSBS though, which may end up diverted more frequently.

This last week the water has been leaking into the Electrical and communications room and then flowing under the grey door opposite 2C onto the platform and flooding P2 A, B and C

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Brisbane's buses brace for student boom as semester starts

Brisbane's university students are being urged to use public transport in the coming semester, even as month-by-month figures show just how crowded some of the key university buses can be.

Head of TransLink Matthew Longland said full-time university students should ensure they have the student concession approved on their adult Go Cards allowing them to travel on a 50 per cent discount.

"Students took more than 30 million trips last year on more than 156,000 tertiary concession-approved Go Cards," he said.

Mr Longland said a two-year trial of more services to and from the University of Queensland, which hosts more than 53,000 students alone, had reported a 50 per cent reduction on full standing loads on route 412.

A 'full standing load' means a bus cannot take any more passengers and may have to skip stops.

The trial, which Transport Minister Mark Bailey announced in August last year, added 30 additional services on route 402 to tackle overcrowding on the buses travelling between Toowong and UQ Chancellors Place.

"This has improved service frequency of the 402 and 412 between Toowong and UQ Chancellors Place during peak times to a service every three minutes, and increased daily capacity by 1890 passengers between Toowong and UQ Chancellors Place," Mr Longland said.

Data from Brisbane City Council, which operates the buses under agreement with TransLink, shows how university bus routes, including route 66 between UQ Lakes and the Royal Brisbane and Womens Hospital in Bowen Hills, spike to multiple full standing loads during semesters.

In October last year, route 66 reported 204 full standing load trips; in November that dropped to 75 full standing load trips, and in December just 23.

Route 66 consistently comes in at number one of the top 10 bus routes for full standing loads during the year.

"Bus route 66 is one of our highest patronised services and a key route for students - running every five minutes on weekdays during peak times to UQ at St Lucia and QUT at Kelvin Grove, with a number of other services providing connections to universities across the state," Mr Longland said.

In October, route 412 - the Queensland Uni Cityxpress - reported 105 full standing trips, dropping to 73 in November and 19 in December.

Council's Blue CityGlider, the route 60 between West End Ferry and Teneriffe, leapt to the top of the most packed-out routes in November and December last year with 83 and 52 full standing loads respectively.

Lord mayor Adrian Schrinner said the council's planned $944 million Brisbane Metro would service both UQ and QUT with services every three minutes in peak hour.

"Council is also expanding the capacity on the popular Blue CityGlider, Route 60, and has funded 18 new high-capacity buses that will accommodate a further 40 passengers on each service of this popular route," he said.

"The first vehicle is expected to go into service in May and the remaining 17 to be rolled out throughout the year."

[James]

In October, route 412 - the Queensland Uni Cityxpress - reported 105 full standing trips, dropping to 73 in November and 19 in December.

SHOCK! University service becomes less crowded outside of University semesters!

Let's see how the services cope come Week 1. There'll be a relative reprieve thanks to the Coronavirus outbreak in China - dare I say the network may not really hit peaks like last year until Semester 2.

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> New Victoria Point bus stop location slammed as 'stupid', 'dumb', concerns for the elderly


Designs for the relocated Victoria Point Central bus station, which opened in mid-December. Picture: Translink

Ratepayers concerned about danger to the elderly and mobility-impaired, who now have to cross busy Cleveland Redland Bay Rd.

THE moving of one of Redlands' busiest bus stations has been panned by the local community, who say the new location is a hazard for the elderly and mobility-impaired.

Construction was completed in mid-December on the $9.77m relocation of Victoria Point Central bus station from Bunker Rd to Cleveland Redland Bay Rd, at the intersection of Bunker Rd and Colburn Ave.

The inbound and outbound platforms are bisected by the major road, which consists of five lanes of traffic (plus two turning lanes) and carries more than 20,000 vehicles per day.

It is this feature which has locals most riled.

Division 6 councillor Julie Talty, whose division takes in a small part of Victoria Point, said the move has "not been well received".

"It's really good to see (State Government) money spent in the Redlands, but unfortunately this project has received a lot of criticism from the community," she said.

She said complaints range from a lack of parking to dangerous situations created by cars turning left from Bunker St pulling out into the path of buses, but that most centred around the difficulties faced by elderly and mobility-impaired people reaching the new station.

"It's the distance disabled people and the frail have to walk between the facility and the Victoria Point Shopping Centre, whichever way they come they've got to cross the road," Cr Talty said.

She said the problem is compounded by the speed at which the pedestrian crossing lights change, which she says is too quickly for the elderly and mobility-impaired people.

"People don't seem to understand the purpose of the relocation," she said.

Cr Talty said she has been directing concerned ratepayers to the Department of Transport and Main Roads, who had sole carriage of the decision.

Concerns have been echoed across social media.

One user suggested that the station relocation was the reason her 81-year-old mother no longer shops at Victoria Point.

"She doesn't drive but used to get dropped at the shopping centre and then would pull her trolley outside to the bus stop within the shopping centre and load it onto the bus which stops at her house," she wrote in the 'Cleveland, Ormiston, Raby Bay and Thornlands Community Watch' Facebook group.

"With these changes, however, she needs to cross 7 lanes of traffic (which is distressing if the light changes and she's not yet across), and then she can only buy what she can carry all the way to the road."

Others users labelled the new station a "joke", "not user friendly", or said it was a "stupid place to put it".

According to the Department of Transport and Main Roads, the new station has improved connections to Cleveland Station, Victoria Point Jetty and Redland Bay Marina, will result in time savings on most bus routes, and will better integrate with any future networks changes in the area.

The new station has capacity for six buses, up two from the previous Bunker Rd station.

The relocated Victoria Point Central bus station, which opened in mid-December. Picture: Translink

[timh]

Couriermail Quest --> New Victoria Point bus stop location slammed as 'stupid', 'dumb', concerns for the elderly

Ratepayers concerned about danger to the elderly and mobility-impaired, who now have to cross busy Cleveland Redland Bay Rd.

THE moving of one of Redlands' busiest bus stations has been panned by the local community, who say the new location is a hazard for the elderly and mobility-impaired.

Construction was completed in mid-December on the $9.77m relocation of Victoria Point Central bus station from Bunker Rd to Cleveland Redland Bay Rd, at the intersection of Bunker Rd and Colburn Ave.

The inbound and outbound platforms are bisected by the major road, which consists of five lanes of traffic (plus two turning lanes) and carries more than 20,000 vehicles per day.

It is this feature which has locals most riled.

Division 6 councillor Julie Talty, whose division takes in a small part of Victoria Point, said the move has "not been well received".

"It's really good to see (State Government) money spent in the Redlands, but unfortunately this project has received a lot of criticism from the community," she said.

She said complaints range from a lack of parking to dangerous situations created by cars turning left from Bunker St pulling out into the path of buses, but that most centred around the difficulties faced by elderly and mobility-impaired people reaching the new station.

"It's the distance disabled people and the frail have to walk between the facility and the Victoria Point Shopping Centre, whichever way they come they've got to cross the road," Cr Talty said.

She said the problem is compounded by the speed at which the pedestrian crossing lights change, which she says is too quickly for the elderly and mobility-impaired people.

"People don't seem to understand the purpose of the relocation," she said.

Cr Talty said she has been directing concerned ratepayers to the Department of Transport and Main Roads, who had sole carriage of the decision.

Concerns have been echoed across social media.

One user suggested that the station relocation was the reason her 81-year-old mother no longer shops at Victoria Point.

"She doesn't drive but used to get dropped at the shopping centre and then would pull her trolley outside to the bus stop within the shopping centre and load it onto the bus which stops at her house," she wrote in the 'Cleveland, Ormiston, Raby Bay and Thornlands Community Watch' Facebook group.

"With these changes, however, she needs to cross 7 lanes of traffic (which is distressing if the light changes and she's not yet across), and then she can only buy what she can carry all the way to the road."

Others users labelled the new station a "joke", "not user friendly", or said it was a "stupid place to put it".

According to the Department of Transport and Main Roads, the new station has improved connections to Cleveland Station, Victoria Point Jetty and Redland Bay Marina, will result in time savings on most bus routes, and will better integrate with any future networks changes in the area.

The new station has capacity for six buses, up two from the previous Bunker Rd station.

Good candidate for a pedestrian overpass methinks. Even better if it had lifts. Think Springwood station

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[ozbob]

I don't think they are going to move it.  At a minimum they need to have traffic lights that can be altered to a longer cycle on request.  Some overseas jurisdictions have these.  A button can be pushed that allows more time for mobility impaired pax to cross.

[Jonno]

Couriermail Quest --> New Victoria Point bus stop location slammed as 'stupid', 'dumb', concerns for the elderly

Ratepayers concerned about danger to the elderly and mobility-impaired, who now have to cross busy Cleveland Redland Bay Rd.

THE moving of one of Redlands' busiest bus stations has been panned by the local community, who say the new location is a hazard for the elderly and mobility-impaired.

Construction was completed in mid-December on the $9.77m relocation of Victoria Point Central bus station from Bunker Rd to Cleveland Redland Bay Rd, at the intersection of Bunker Rd and Colburn Ave.

The inbound and outbound platforms are bisected by the major road, which consists of five lanes of traffic (plus two turning lanes) and carries more than 20,000 vehicles per day.

It is this feature which has locals most riled.

Division 6 councillor Julie Talty, whose division takes in a small part of Victoria Point, said the move has "not been well received".

"It's really good to see (State Government) money spent in the Redlands, but unfortunately this project has received a lot of criticism from the community," she said.

She said complaints range from a lack of parking to dangerous situations created by cars turning left from Bunker St pulling out into the path of buses, but that most centred around the difficulties faced by elderly and mobility-impaired people reaching the new station.

"It's the distance disabled people and the frail have to walk between the facility and the Victoria Point Shopping Centre, whichever way they come they've got to cross the road," Cr Talty said.

She said the problem is compounded by the speed at which the pedestrian crossing lights change, which she says is too quickly for the elderly and mobility-impaired people.

"People don't seem to understand the purpose of the relocation," she said.

Cr Talty said she has been directing concerned ratepayers to the Department of Transport and Main Roads, who had sole carriage of the decision.

Concerns have been echoed across social media.

One user suggested that the station relocation was the reason her 81-year-old mother no longer shops at Victoria Point.

"She doesn't drive but used to get dropped at the shopping centre and then would pull her trolley outside to the bus stop within the shopping centre and load it onto the bus which stops at her house," she wrote in the 'Cleveland, Ormiston, Raby Bay and Thornlands Community Watch' Facebook group.

"With these changes, however, she needs to cross 7 lanes of traffic (which is distressing if the light changes and she's not yet across), and then she can only buy what she can carry all the way to the road."

Others users labelled the new station a "joke", "not user friendly", or said it was a "stupid place to put it".

According to the Department of Transport and Main Roads, the new station has improved connections to Cleveland Station, Victoria Point Jetty and Redland Bay Marina, will result in time savings on most bus routes, and will better integrate with any future networks changes in the area.

The new station has capacity for six buses, up two from the previous Bunker Rd station.

Good candidate for a pedestrian overpass methinks. Even better if it had lifts. Think Springwood station

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Totally agree plus Shopping Centre should be developed to address the bus stop not turn it's back on it!!

[Otto]

The new bus station should have had lifts and a pedestrian bridge just like a standard busway station.
The 2 intersections either end of the stops are not pedestrian friendly at the best of times.
I personally know some of the elderly who now go to Cleveland to shop as Middle st is much easier to cross with Pedestrian Crossings.
Regular bus passengers have been complaining about the relocation from Bunker rd to Cleveland-Redland Bay rd ever since the plans were made public.
It was never going to be well received by the regulars who used the Bunker Rd stops.

This is a great example of Translink conducting local info sessions before construction commenced and taking absolutely no notice of us locals with our feedback. We are not fools Translink. We know you don't give a stuff about the opinions of us locals.. 
The ballot box will show that. 

[ozbob]

^ yo Otto.  Another example of a ' half baked ' outcome.  TMR/TransLink ... say no more ...

[STB]

I remember putting in a very detailed list of criticism when Translink went to community consultation on this project which was supported by the local community and it was frankly ignored.

This project is very much political, implemented due to a lack of spending in the Redlands over a long period.

Frankly, the old Benfer Rd interchange was much more mobility friendly and far more accessible to the shopping centre and the cinema, restaurants and library across the road from the old interchange than the new interchange.

The old set up worked a lot better, even though the bus had to go through multiple sets of lights to access it, people largely didn't mind as the old interchange was user friendly and made interchanging far simplier and safer as you didn't need to cross the road to change buses.

TransLink needs to learn from this project that you cannot cookie cut an interchange from one area to another without taking into consideration of what works for the locals and the local demographics.

Frankly the new interchange should never have being built in the first place in it's current format, and frankly should be closed with the old set up reinstated, and Translink going back to the drawing board on what to do in the local area.

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

21st February 2020

Victoria Point Central bus station - another failure by the Department of Transport and Main Roads and TransLink

RAIL Back On Track supports Redlands citizens concerns with the Victoria Point Central Bus station (1, 2). There was a period of community consultation and it appears that the negative feedback was ignored.  The result is not satisfactory.  The inbound and outbound platforms are bisected by a busy road - the Cleveland - Redland Bay Road. It is difficult for mobility impaired pax to cross the roads. Some passengers have been forced to stop using Victoria Point Central bus station and are shopping elsewhere.

The new bus station at Victoria Point Central should have lifts and a pedestrian bridge, like a standard busway station.  The two intersections either end of the stops are not pedestrian friendly at the best of times.  Until the lifts and pedestrian bridge are constructed it should be closed and the previous stops in Bunker Road re-activated.

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

References:

1. Victoria Point Central bus station
https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Projects/Name/V/Victoria-Point-Central-bus-station

2. New Victoria Point bus stop location slammed as 'stupid', 'dumb', concerns for the elderly
https://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/redlands/new-victoria-point-bus-stop-location-slammed-as-stupid-dumb-concerns-for-the-elderly/news-story/28464c296e485559b09c605045ffbd2f

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1230646218746781696

[ozbob]

I remember putting in a very detailed list of criticism when Translink went to community consultation on this project which was supported by the local community and it was frankly ignored.

This project is very much political, implemented due to a lack of spending in the Redlands over a long period.

Frankly, the old Benfer Rd interchange was much more mobility friendly and far more accessible to the shopping centre and the cinema, restaurants and library across the road from the old interchange than the new interchange.

The old set up worked a lot better, even though the bus had to go through multiple sets of lights to access it, people largely didn't mind as the old interchange was user friendly and made interchanging far simplier and safer as you didn't need to cross the road to change buses.

TransLink needs to learn from this project that you cannot cookie cut an interchange from one area to another without taking into consideration of what works for the locals and the local demographics.

Frankly the new interchange should never have being built in the first place in it's current format, and frankly should be closed with the old set up reinstated, and Translink going back to the drawing board on what to do in the local area.

Thanks for this STB.

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> TransLink says mobility-impaired customers can still use old Victoria Point Central bus station too

TRANSLINK has moved to soothe community concerns about the relocation of Victoria Point Central bus station, saying there are still plenty of options for customers who may have mobility concerns.

Redlands residents have taken to social media to slam the station's relocation from Bunker St to Cleveland Redland Bay Rd, a move which cost $9.77m.

There was special concern about the ability of disabled people and the elderly to navigate the five lanes of traffic they now need to cross between the inbound and outbound platforms, with Cleveland personal carer Justine Porrett saying the situation is "dangerous" for her client Corey, who uses a wheelchair.

However, TransLink have said mobility-impaired customers are still able to use the old Bunker Rd station if they prefer.

"Routes 277 and 282 stop at both the new station and the remaining Bunker Rd stop, near High St stops," a spokesman said.

"If you have mobility issues and need to get to the shopping and restaurant precinct at Victoria Point Lakeside, you can catch these routes from Victoria Point Central station to Bunker Rd."

The spokesman also said that another complaint about the new station, that the pedestrian lights across Cleveland Redland Bay Rd do not stay green long enough, had been rectified.

"The pedestrian crossings at the traffic signals north and south of the bus stop have been adjusted," he said.

"This will allow additional green 'Walk' time and red flashing 'Clearance' time.

"These changes cater for slower crossing speeds and allow more pedestrians to cross in a cycle.

"We will continue to monitor the operation of the signals as part of our normal business."

He defended the organisation's community consultation in determining the move.

"Community consultation on the proposed Victoria Point Central station was undertaken by TMR in July and August 2016," he said.

"Six community information sessions were held at the existing bus station and with members of the local community.

"Throughout this consultation period more than 1,000 interactions with members of the community were recorded, and more than 23,500 people were reached through TransLink's social media.

"TMR has also actively engaged with local aged care residential facilities and residents, Redland City Council, and local bus operator Transdev throughout the feasibility and site selection process.

"TMR's Accessibility Reference Group, which is a consultative forum for government, industry and disability stakeholders to discuss ideas to improve accessibility of the passenger transport network for customers with a disability, were involved during the design process for the facility, including planning for an orientation session on the completed station."

The spokesman said the new station had benefits for the Redlands community.

"The new station is located centrally to the surrounding business, shopping district and community facilities, with these facilities located either side of the station," he said.

"The station provides additional capacity to allow for increased numbers of bus services and passengers, in a safer, well-lit and attractive facility which is fully accessible and compliant with all disability access requirements."

State MP for Redlands, Kim Richards, said she has been working hard to iron out kinks in the new station.

"I have had a new footpath that directly connects Platform 1 with the Victoria Point Shopping Centre installed three weeks ago," she said.

She said she has also ensured more shade and seating was installed at the new station, asked TransLink and the centre to work together to ensure there are less abandoned trolleys on the platforms, and requested a review of our bus routes, particularly those between the Victoria Point Central Station, Cleveland Train Station and the Redland Bay Marina.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1233179406274711552

[SurfRail]

About 45 minutes to get into town this morning from arriving at my bus stop on OC Rd to getting off the bus in Adelaide St.  Bugger that.

I'm going back to the railway I think.  10-15 minute walk vs 5-7 minute walk, but journey time will be 20 minutes consistently and with much more predictable departure times, even allowing for Cleveland line unreliability.

[Paul B]

When I lived in coorparoo it was a toss up between train, 184 or 185 routes or the multiple buses/rockets at OCR.
this was pre-go card and the idiot working at Coorparoo station used to turn both ticket machines off each morning and you'd have to queue for a ticket from him, which usually meant you missed a train 

[Otto]

Couriermail Quest --> TransLink says mobility-impaired customers can still use old Victoria Point Central bus station too

TRANSLINK has moved to soothe community concerns about the relocation of Victoria Point Central bus station, saying there are still plenty of options for customers who may have mobility concerns.

Redlands residents have taken to social media to slam the station’s relocation from Bunker St to Cleveland Redland Bay Rd, a move which cost $9.77m.

There was special concern about the ability of disabled people and the elderly to navigate the five lanes of traffic they now need to cross between the inbound and outbound platforms, with Cleveland personal carer Justine Porrett saying the situation is “dangerous” for her client Corey, who uses a wheelchair.

However, TransLink have said mobility-impaired customers are still able to use the old Bunker Rd station if they prefer.

“Routes 277 and 282 stop at both the new station and the remaining Bunker Rd stop, near High St stops,” a spokesman said.

“If you have mobility issues and need to get to the shopping and restaurant precinct at Victoria Point Lakeside, you can catch these routes from Victoria Point Central station to Bunker Rd.”

The spokesman also said that another complaint about the new station, that the pedestrian lights across Cleveland Redland Bay Rd do not stay green long enough, had been rectified.

“The pedestrian crossings at the traffic signals north and south of the bus stop have been adjusted,” he said.

“This will allow additional green ‘Walk’ time and red flashing ‘Clearance’ time.

“These changes cater for slower crossing speeds and allow more pedestrians to cross in a cycle.

< snip >

I stand by my comments that a Lift and overhead pedestrian bridge should be installed.

It's great that TL representatives can respond by allowing a longer crossing time, but there are some of our aged who have a fear of crossing such a busy intersection with good reason. And who is going to wait 30 minutes to change to another bus just to go around the corner.
Just this morning, there has been another serious accident at the Benfer Rd intersection which is notorious for accidents.

Todays local news headline,

Another crash at dangerous Cleveland-Redland Bay Rd

A FOUR-CAR pile up at a notorious Victoria Point intersection involved in a recent safety review has this morning caused traffic back to Thornlands.
The crash happened just before 9am today at the intersection of Bunker and Cleveland-Redland Bay roads.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/redlands/another-crash-at-dangerous-clevelandredland-bay-rd/news-story/809632f525f2659eeba6d2de566217d3

[ozbob]

I am walking up Queen Street Goodna just past Alice Street and a 524 desto Goodna Station passed by. Just a tad off route 

[Cazza]

I saw a 335 come through Newmarket at just after 7:30pm last night. I think it would have been doing the 6:45pm inbound 335 from Sandgate then must have turned off at Grange along the 325 route. Didn't spot anyone on the bus and I hope there weren't too many people waiting at Wilston and Windsor at that time of night

[HappyTrainGuy]

I saw a 335 come through Newmarket at just after 7:30pm last night. I think it would have been doing the 6:45pm inbound 335 from Sandgate then must have turned off at Grange along the 325 route. Didn't spot anyone on the bus and I hope there weren't too many people waiting at Wilston and Windsor at that time of night

Happens quite frequently beleive it or not.

[verbatim9]

North Stradbroke Island now integrated into Translink

The two routes are 880 and 881-->https://jp.translink.com.au/plan-your-journey/timetables/bus/f/880/outbound/2020-04-15?timetableTime=0600   

[Gazza]

Couriermail Quest --> TransLink says mobility-impaired customers can still use old Victoria Point Central bus station too

TRANSLINK has moved to soothe community concerns about the relocation of Victoria Point Central bus station, saying there are still plenty of options for customers who may have mobility concerns.

Redlands residents have taken to social media to slam the station's relocation from Bunker St to Cleveland Redland Bay Rd, a move which cost $9.77m.

There was special concern about the ability of disabled people and the elderly to navigate the five lanes of traffic they now need to cross between the inbound and outbound platforms, with Cleveland personal carer Justine Porrett saying the situation is "dangerous" for her client Corey, who uses a wheelchair.

However, TransLink have said mobility-impaired customers are still able to use the old Bunker Rd station if they prefer.

"Routes 277 and 282 stop at both the new station and the remaining Bunker Rd stop, near High St stops," a spokesman said.

"If you have mobility issues and need to get to the shopping and restaurant precinct at Victoria Point Lakeside, you can catch these routes from Victoria Point Central station to Bunker Rd."

The spokesman also said that another complaint about the new station, that the pedestrian lights across Cleveland Redland Bay Rd do not stay green long enough, had been rectified.

"The pedestrian crossings at the traffic signals north and south of the bus stop have been adjusted," he said.

"This will allow additional green 'Walk' time and red flashing 'Clearance' time.

"These changes cater for slower crossing speeds and allow more pedestrians to cross in a cycle.

"We will continue to monitor the operation of the signals as part of our normal business."

He defended the organisation's community consultation in determining the move.

"Community consultation on the proposed Victoria Point Central station was undertaken by TMR in July and August 2016," he said.

"Six community information sessions were held at the existing bus station and with members of the local community.

"Throughout this consultation period more than 1,000 interactions with members of the community were recorded, and more than 23,500 people were reached through TransLink's social media.

"TMR has also actively engaged with local aged care residential facilities and residents, Redland City Council, and local bus operator Transdev throughout the feasibility and site selection process.

"TMR's Accessibility Reference Group, which is a consultative forum for government, industry and disability stakeholders to discuss ideas to improve accessibility of the passenger transport network for customers with a disability, were involved during the design process for the facility, including planning for an orientation session on the completed station."

The spokesman said the new station had benefits for the Redlands community.

"The new station is located centrally to the surrounding business, shopping district and community facilities, with these facilities located either side of the station," he said.

"The station provides additional capacity to allow for increased numbers of bus services and passengers, in a safer, well-lit and attractive facility which is fully accessible and compliant with all disability access requirements."

State MP for Redlands, Kim Richards, said she has been working hard to iron out kinks in the new station.

"I have had a new footpath that directly connects Platform 1 with the Victoria Point Shopping Centre installed three weeks ago," she said.

She said she has also ensured more shade and seating was installed at the new station, asked TransLink and the centre to work together to ensure there are less abandoned trolleys on the platforms, and requested a review of our bus routes, particularly those between the Victoria Point Central Station, Cleveland Train Station and the Redland Bay Marina.

I've always found the criticism of crossing busy roads an odd one.
If you cross when the pedestrian crossing tells you to, you're safe.

And people generally aren't out there to ram down elderly people that are still crossing the road.
Doesn't happen at Kawana Bus station, doesn't happen at Logan Central interchange either.
Or going from Toombul shops across to the station.

FWIW i think the new station makes sense. The old station was too far from the shops on the eastern side of the road.

RBoT advocates for steam ironing routes, well this is exactly that, turns what could be a several minute process into a drop n go.


Similarly, the 2013 bus review proposed moving North South bus routes onto Gympie Rd instead of making them loop into the interchange at Chermside, which as I recall members here supported as well.

[City Designer]

Real time information for Transport for Brisbane and Sunbus Sunshine Coast is down today (Monday 27 April 2020).

[verbatim9]

Real time information for Transport for Brisbane and Sunbus Sunshine Coast is down today (Monday 27 April 2020).

Still working on Google maps in Bne

[James]

Real time information for Transport for Brisbane and Sunbus Sunshine Coast is down today (Monday 27 April 2020).

Had no issues this afternoon with the TransLink app (TfB services). Perhaps just a short outage.

[City Designer]

Fleet number 10 is showing up doing a 690. Does Hornibrook Buslines have a demonstrator?

[City Designer]

Something you don't see everyday.

Clarks Logan City Bus Service 556 is doing a 567.

[verbatim9]

Roma Street bus diversion.

https://www.facebook.com/521288224563914/posts/4508701799155850/

[ozbob]

https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2020/503-2020.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 503
Asked on 21 May 2020

DR C ROWAN ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:
Will the Minister advise what additional public transport routes and services are being planned
for suburbs within the electorate of Moggill and specifically the areas of Anstead, Mount Crosby
and Karana Downs?

ANSWER:
I thank the Member for Moggill for the question.

The Palaszczuk Government understands the important role which public transport plays in
connecting people with jobs, education, essential services and each other.
That is why our Government has committed $1 billion over three years to support Brisbane's bus
services. The Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) and the Brisbane City Council
(BCC) signed a contract in July last year which will see funding for 1200 Brisbane buses operating
on more than 420 routes.

While public transport provides connectivity for many communities, the large number of bus
services provided across the State comes at a very significant financial investment. The cost
effectiveness of all services must be fully considered and assessed as part of the planning
process for consideration of new services.

The suburbs of Karana Downs and Mount Crosby, along with the surrounding suburb of Anstead,
have a low population density, and are not considered by TMR to have sufficient passenger
demand to justify regular scheduled services. As such, there are no plans for any service
changes, at this time.

I am advised that the Personalised Public Transport service provided by BCC is currently
available to service the Karana Downs and Mount Crosby areas. This service provides a
connection for residents to the high-frequency bus route 444 service, along the Moggill Road
corridor to Brisbane's CBD and Southbank. I am also advised that last year, BCC undertook
public transport research in this area, however, no findings have been made available at this time.
Please be assured that TMR will continue to work closely with BCC to ensure the suitability of the
network in response to changes in demand, population and demographic fluctuations.

[ozbob]

Minor timetable change - Transdev (Redlands)

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/283391

We've been working with our delivery partners to review and improve the on-time running and reliability of bus services across the network.

From Monday 13 July, route 240, 242, 250, 282 and N250 NightLink bus timetables will change to ensure travel times better reflect journey times. This may mean your bus will arrive and depart earlier or later.

We have also made a minor change to how outbound route 250 services travel into Carindale interchange to provide faster access and improve service efficiency.

[ozbob]

I am walking up Queen Street Goodna just past Alice Street and a 524 desto Goodna Station passed by. Just a tad off route 

https://twitter.com/ozbob13/status/1281339435267715072

There has been a temporary route change for the 524 since March 2020.  At this stage diversion is approved to the end of July.
Route diversion was done because of some problems with anti-social behaviours.

The route diversion is straight down Queen St, left into Alice St, right into Stuart and then right and back on normal route at Smiths Road.

5 stops are bypassed.  https://translink.com.au/service-updates/277631

Closed stops:

Stuart St near Bellevue Rd (Stop ID 312240)

Curnow St near Howard St, Goodna (Stop ID 317815)

Curnow St near Howard St, Goodna (Stop ID 317816)

Kingsford St near Howard St, Goodna (Stop ID 312226)

Stuart St near Bellevue Rd, Goodna (Stop ID 312242)

Curnow St is where I normally catch the 524. 

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/bne_lordmayor/status/1281467010312925185

[SurfRail]

I was at the unveiling - some of us managed to get a good shot of this with the newest bus in the fleet passing by on an inbound 471 (stroke of luck).