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Started by ozbob, August 16, 2007, 19:37:22 PM

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techblitz

fbook post today from a regular 524 user....

QuoteYou need to provide bigger buses for the morning 524's Redbank to Goodna. I jump on at School Road 6.58am and its already packed, from my point there's still a long way to go to reach Goodna and everyone who hops on after me has to stand. After 2-3 stops its then reached maxed capacity so we can't take anymore onboard who are probably relying on this transport to get them to work on time or their kids to school!! This is not good enough, this is happening every morning on the same bus and route and nothing has changed as yet! Obviously there's a demand for a bigger bus, if your bus drivers aren't communicating this, then they should be. The poor passengers who either have to stand throughout the journey being jostled about isn't safe for one and then those who don't even get on and the next bus isn't for another hour is appalling service!! Step it up TransLink, would appreciate this matter addressed as soon as possible.

verbatim9

We need articulated services running especially when school ends between 3-4pm. There is far too much congestion on bus services at this time. Breaking point actually.

SurfRail

There is clearly a need for more school services in many places.
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tazzer9

you just need more services, thats all.  Anything that isn't a trunk route in a major city only needs to be run with standard buses, if they get full, just run more.   Nothing outside brisbane or gold coast will ever warrant something running at frequencies better than every 10 minutes.  Even in peak. 

Arnz

Quote from: tazzer9 on April 29, 2016, 16:40:32 PM
you just need more services, thats all.  Anything that isn't a trunk route in a major city only needs to be run with standard buses, if they get full, just run more.   Nothing outside brisbane or gold coast will ever warrant something running at frequencies better than every 10 minutes.  Even in peak.

600 on the Sunshine Coast runs every 12 minutes on Weekdays (till 7pm then Half Hourly after 7pm then hourly from 10pm till 3am on Friday and Saturday nights) and every 15 minutes on Weekends (till 7pm on Sat and 5pm on Sundays, which drops to half-hourly after)
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aldonius

Apparently the 412s aren't showing up...

https://twitter.com/jaimiefrazer/status/725948099764473856

Quote@TransLinkSEQ I've been at Roma St stop 138 since 4.55pm, supposed to have been 3 412 buses in that time but none came... Where are they?

ozbob

The bus and road network is a bigger clusterfuk than normal this evening.

A little rain, a long weekend, and the Queensland factor ...   :P

> https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ

Not all the disruptions I am sure  but gives you some idea ..
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verbatim9

Took me 1 hour to get home this eve for 8 km of travel from Valley to Chermside with 370/340 @ 1640. Lots of traffic. Kedron to Chermside was a carpark.

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QuoteTook me 1 hour to get home this eve for 8 km of travel from Valley to Chermside with 370/340 @ 1640. Lots of traffic. Kedron to Chermside was a carpark.

Ah, to think that all these tunnels have solved all of our problems - AirportLink, Clem 7, INB etc...
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tazzer9

Quote from: verbatim9 on April 29, 2016, 20:31:56 PM
Took me 1 hour to get home this eve for 8 km of travel from Valley to Chermside with 370/340 @ 1640. Lots of traffic. Kedron to Chermside was a carpark.

You say that like it isn't normal.   What I would dream of to travel the 10km from uni to my house on PT (uq-the gap) in one hour at anytime of the day.   Driving at that time often takes 1 hour.

tazzer9

Last night as I was driving past The Gap Park n drive terminus (near the dam) at 8:30pm I noticed 5 buses laying over.   How much operational inefficiencies do BBC want.   The only Bus routes that use this stop at that time are the 4 BPH 385 and maybe the occasional 380 and 381 that do not want to lay over at their normal stop (1 BPH each).   


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achiruel

Saw a bus displaying 199 West End on KSD I/B near Brekky Ck this morning. Is it usual for buses to run from the depot to terminus with the desto set to its next trip?

techblitz

not normal.....depends on the driver......saw a 460 desto'd bus heading into grand plaza the other day:)

James

Quote from: achiruel on July 15, 2016, 17:00:14 PMSaw a bus displaying 199 West End on KSD I/B near Brekky Ck this morning. Is it usual for buses to run from the depot to terminus with the desto set to its next trip?

Entirely driver-dependent. Also occurs between runs and after runs - e.g. I've seen a 412 turn into a 415 at UQ Chancellors Place, and many a 412 retain its destination after passing St Lucia South and returning to the depot/CBD via Hawken Drive.
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

Golliwog

Quote from: James on July 16, 2016, 04:18:40 AM
Quote from: achiruel on July 15, 2016, 17:00:14 PMSaw a bus displaying 199 West End on KSD I/B near Brekky Ck this morning. Is it usual for buses to run from the depot to terminus with the desto set to its next trip?

Entirely driver-dependent. Also occurs between runs and after runs - e.g. I've seen a 412 turn into a 415 at UQ Chancellors Place, and many a 412 retain its destination after passing St Lucia South and returning to the depot/CBD via Hawken Drive.

Yeah, I've seen I think it was a 215 running outbound on Waterworks Road in the mornings.
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verbatim9

Just going by that article there are a few people here and there that have loud phone conversations on Public Transport (Busses). Can be annoying when no one can move away from it. Can"t blame the bus driver snapping. At least on trains you can go to the quiet carriage or the other side of the carriage. Same goes with Trams, easy to go to the other side of tram. ☺😃

ozbob

 :o

Couriermail --> Richard William films floor of Brisbane TransLink bus moving up and down with wind on morning commute

QuoteA BRISBANE commuter got the shock of his life this morning when he noticed part of the bus floor was moving up and down with the wind.

Richard William boarded the 577 bus from Springfield to the city about halfway through its journey.

Mr William said he was lucky to escape serious injury or death when he stepped on the manhole cover, only to find there was nothing holding it down.

"I stepped onto it and it fell back into place," he said.

"If it hadn't it could've been much worse."

Mr William got out his phone and began to film as he lifted the cover to show the road below.

He then filmed it wobbling and rising up and down as the bus travelled at speed along the busway into the city.

Mr William said it was scary to think he could have fallen through the hole as he made his way to his seat. ...
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HappyTrainGuy

Ummm.... That's not how the covers are designed. Hardly any chance of him falling through. Also nice of him to get his camera out rather than notify the driver who could have done something straight away.

CQRail

Last I checked the 577 originates from Springwood, not Springfield.

James

Much ado about nothing. The cover was only coming up at speed because of the way air was being funnelled around the bus. At 0kph it poses no risk to anybody who is paying attention to where they're stepping.

Problem wouldn't have occurred if the bus network was being used to its full capacity... you would have had two people standing on the cover, preventing it from coming up :-r
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techblitz

Quote from: techblitz on July 15, 2016, 17:09:05 PM
not normal.....depends on the driver......saw a 460 desto'd bus heading into grand plaza the other day:)

a bus/driver from eagle farm depot has decided to play silly buggers and put '401 Sunnybank' on the desto.....while parked at cannon hill. Transport planner in the making :P

urbanplanr

The Citaro is stalking me. Spotted the 1599 at ~8:30PM doing a 175 inbound run at Logan Road at Greenslopes, and today I saw it go by us on the SE Busway approaching the Melbourne Street portal. It was doing an outbound 66 service to UQ Lakes.

I've never been lucky enough to catch it though. I do know it recently got moved from the Willawong to Sherwood depot but haven't had the pleasure of riding on it.
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aldonius

I caught it once on a UQ run. It manages to feel much less voluminous inside. Can't quite put my finger on how.

tazzer9

I had that feeling too, but It was probably a case of it running an 8:30am 66 on the first of university semester .   We got to know the guy next to us very well.

urbanplanr

While I haven't been on them, they may remind me of the MAN 10.155's that had the 4 seater cabin seating arrangement and they did the Great Circle runs.
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SurfRail

Quote from: aldonius on September 14, 2016, 13:22:44 PM
I caught it once on a UQ run. It manages to feel much less voluminous inside. Can't quite put my finger on how.

Might be the engine mounting - it would take up less space on the whole than an underfloor mounting but it sticks out vertically.
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aldonius

Caught a 412 from UQ to Roma St leaving about 14:15 today. It was Derwan level 5 crowded until Toowong -- at one of the SFSD stops, it was actually so crowded that people couldn't get on! Emptied out massively at Toowong; about 2/3 of the seats taken from there to the City.

Just goes to confirm that the 402 needs to be timetabled to leave about 3 minutes before the 412.

verbatim9

Quote from: aldonius on September 23, 2016, 17:00:47 PM
Caught a 412 from UQ to Roma St leaving about 14:15 today. It was Derwan level 5 crowded until Toowong -- at one of the SFSD stops, it was actually so crowded that people couldn't get on! Emptied out massively at Toowong; about 2/3 of the seats taken from there to the City.

Just goes to confirm that the 402 needs to be timetabled to leave about 3 minutes before the 412.
Yep has happened to myself on that route. The buses are too small for the amount of people and when the frequency is increased the buses catch up with each other. Articulated buses or crowded buses?

tazzer9

Worst part of the 412 is people who catch it between UQ and one of the SFSD stops.  How hard is it to walk 2km and save yourself a few dollars.  (want to shoot people who use it on the busy services just to get to the restaurants on SFSD)

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QuoteCaught a 412 from UQ to Roma St leaving about 14:15 today. It was Derwan level 5 crowded until Toowong

402 should be converted to stop only at 412 express stops.

412 should be one of the first candidates for Supersizing with a 150 pax superbus.
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James

Really, all that needs to happen is the 402 needs to run 3 minutes before the 412, with the 402 sucking up the St Lucia/Toowong bound pax, leaving the 412 for pax in St Lucia/UQ going beyond Toowong. Very easy solution. Another bus would have been along in 5 mins too, not the end of the world.

Quote from: tazzer9 on September 23, 2016, 17:56:14 PM
Worst part of the 412 is people who catch it between UQ and one of the SFSD stops.  How hard is it to walk 2km and save yourself a few dollars.  (want to shoot people who use it on the busy services just to get to the restaurants on SFSD)

2km is a long way to walk - about 20-30 mins walk depending how fast you are. Compared to a 3-5min bus ride, I'd rather pay the $1.50 than walk. Also, with 9 then free, eventually the trip is free. I live a bit over 2km from UQ, and I can't remember when I last walked - bus or driving is much easier and doesn't make you sweat.

While we're on the topic of the yellow stops on SFSD - can we just get rid of them already? They cause so much confusion it's ridiculous. Even worse on the N413.
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