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Media Release 1 March 2009

SEQ:  Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport users has said that in order to set up the QR Citytrain network to meet the current and future mass transit requirements an extension of the tier timetable structure that operates on the Gold Coast railway line needs to rolled out to the Ipswich, and Caboolture and North Coast Lines.

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"Trains to and from the Gold Coast presently run express, with limited stops from Beenleigh to the CBD.  Trains to and from Beenleigh generally run all stations to the CBD.  This is an example of a two tier timetable that affords capacity and a reduced journey time for the long run in from the Gold Coast, with the flexibility of all station trains for local commuters."

"Similar patterns need to be established on the north coast to Rosewood corridor.  Trains to and from Ipswich should all run express from Darra to the CBD, with perhaps a stop at Indooroopilly.  All station frequent trains to run between Darra and Shorncliffe.  This results in a quicker journey time for the long haul rail commuters and will help manage the inner suburban congestion overloads.  It is a win for all."

"This pattern on the Ipswich line will also allow the seamless integration of the new QR Citytrain services on the Darra to Richlands branch line.  The Shorncliffe to Darra sweepers can be extended to Richlands."

"The north coast line should operate on a triple tier timetable.  Trains to and from Nambour to run express from Caboolture with limited stops, for example at Petrie and Northgate.  Trains to and from Caboolture to run express between Northgate and the CBD.  The Darra Shorncliffe sweepers will pick up the inner suburban passengers on this section."

"Many rail commuters at peak struggle to board the overloaded long haul services as they transit through the inner suburban areas. Apart from making for a long journey time, it increases dwell times and makes it difficult for the crew to keep on timetable.  It is time to look at innovative solutions."

"The track quadruplication upgrade between Darra and Corinda will give the capacity on the Ipswich line to introduce the suggested train working.  The track duplication project between Caboolture and Beerburrum will also give an increased capacity."

"Further upgrades of track capacity and signalling improvements will place the QR Citytrain network in a position to move commuters safely, quickly and in a sustainable manner.  As the new trains and crew are progressively introduced the timetable improvements suggested will go a long way to matching capacity with the surging demand and provide an efficient operation."

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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 08:09:40 AM »
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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 03:12:40 PM »
Interesting suggestion ozbob. However, if this system was implemented it would surely lead to a reduction in services for inner-city stations. Ipswich line stations between Corinda and Roma Street currently get a train every 15 minutes on week days. This consists of trains from Ipswich (or Rosewood) to the city and onto the Caboolture line every 30 minutes coupled with trains from Corinda to the City and onto the Shorncliff line also every 30 minutes. If I interpret your plan correctly the trains which currently turn back at Corinda would be extended to Darra. If the trains originating from Ipswich run express Darra-Indooroopilly-City the only stations to get a 15 minute service will be Darra and Indooroopilly.

I thought Rail:BOT supported increased public transport frequencies? What you are advocating is a halving of frequency for stations Corinda to Milton (except Indooroopilly) for the sake of a 7 minute time saving for Ipswich residents. For morning and evening peaks when trains are at crush capacity I can see the advantage of the a tiered system and QR have already implemented this to some extent.

But halving frequencies to 30 minutes? No thanks, I'd rather walk.

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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 03:16:22 PM »
Don't forget the Richlands trains, expect you will have better than 15 minutes Darra all stations to town. And depending where the Richlands run through same north side!  There won't be a reduction at all.

There is also talk of an inner city looper as well down the track.  

All ideas ...  Melbourne do a similar thing.  Frankston line express Caulfield/town, Pakenham/Dandenong all stations to Caulfield/town.

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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 08:03:05 PM »
is the current corinda service going to be kept and extended to darra or will it just continue to richlands still keeping the 4 trains per hour as current
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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 08:07:23 PM »
Don't forget the Richlands trains, expect you will have better than 15 minutes Darra all stations to town.
I was under the assumption (and you said yourself) that the Richlands services would merely be an extension of the current Corinda (or Darra) services.

There is also talk of an inner city looper as well down the track.
No offence ozbob, but is there any reason to think this is anything more than a pipe dream?

Melbourne do a similar thing.  Frankston line express Caulfield/town, Pakenham/Dandenong all stations to Caulfield/town.

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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 08:53:04 PM »
Loop services have been looked at as a real possibility, particularly when TODs in place.

Got mixed up.  It remains to be seen what the Richlands trains will be. During the day the Corinda services may be ran through.  Other option is a shuttle. Other people have suggested run every second  ips as express if frequency increased..  This would maintain present frequency.  When and if Springfield is built bound to be major changes.

Melbourne does some things right.  One of those is a decent frequency during the week.  Weekends are a bit light but is going to change with the new agreement.  Two tier timetables have been discussed at CRGs. 

The real risk to off peak reduced frequency will be bean counters. 

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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2009, 09:36:23 PM »
a shuttle is pointless jsut use busses
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Re: 1 Mar 2009: SEQ: Tier timetables - the smart solution for rail
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 03:39:37 AM »
Yes, through services much better.  If this occurs then there will be a high frequency from Darra inbound/outbound.
The rail network is independent of the roads, I am not sure putting more buses onto the roads is doing anything.  With the size of the car park to be at Richlands the load projections will be considerable.
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