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[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1018597024294363136

https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/101859399856133734

Edit:  Looks like they go it wrong and pulled the original tweet ... 

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188801

The 6.13am Central-Shorncliffe train cancelled

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 6.45am (in a few seconds)

The 6.13am Central to Shorncliffe train has been cancelled from Toombul to Shorncliffe due to a rollingstock issue.

The next Central to Shorncliffe train will depart Central Station at 6.28am.

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188806

The 6.39am Shorncliffe-Central train has been cancelled

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 6.49am (in a few seconds)

The 6.39am Shorncliffe to Central train has been cancelled due to a rollingstock issue.

The next train will depart Shorncliffe Station at 6.54am.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1018599779129913344

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188811

The 6.40am Varsity Lakes-Central train cancelled

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 6.54am (a few seconds ago)

The 6.40am Varsity Lakes to Central train has been cancelled from Robina to Central due to a medical emergency.

The next train will depart Varsity Lakes Station at 6.55am.

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188816

The 6.54am Shorncliffe-Central train cancelled

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 6.58am (in a few seconds)

The 6.54am Shorncliffe to Central train has been cancelled due to a rollingstock issue.

The next train will depart Shorncliffe Station at 7.09am.

[BrizCommuter]

And so it begins ...

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188786

The 5.37am Roma Street-Ferny Grove train cancelled

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 6.09am (6 minutes ago)

The 5.37am Roma Street to Ferny Grove train has been cancelled due to a mechanical issue.

The next train will depart Roma Street Station at 6.52am.

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https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188791

The 6.32am Ferny Grove-Central train cancelled

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 6.13am (4 minutes ago)

The 6.32am Ferny Grove to Central train has been cancelled due to a rollingstock issue.

The next train will depart Ferny Grove Station at 6.40am.

The 6:40am (which is 3-car) is now full with passengers being left behind at Newmarket, Wilson, and Windsor.

[ozbob]

Thanks .. 

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https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1018603697780092928

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188821

The 7.32am Central-Cleveland train cancelled

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 7.26am (3 minutes ago)

The 7.32am Central to Cleveland train has been cancelled due to a rollingstock issue.

The next train will depart Central Station at 7.47am.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1018609630446960640

[Stillwater]

Rolling stock issue?

[ozbob]

Rolling stock issue?

They seem to use the descriptors ' mechanical issue ' and ' rollingstock issue ' as they fancy.

See the disruption notices above. The outbound Ferny Grove train was cancelled due to a ' mechanical issue ', the corresponding return journey was cancelled because of a ' rollingstock issue '.

The actual problem is most likely a door issue of sorts.   It is too much, to hope, for an actual real description of the issue.

[ozbob]

Rolling stock issue?

[not_available]

Rolling stock issue?

I think (well, I like to that) I figured it out:
"Mechanical Issue": Train broken (probably a door issue)
"Rollingstock issue": Not enough trains/ no train to replace the broken one et cetera. Should be interpreted as a desperate plea from QR to TMR/Goverment for more (& more reliable) trains. Prefferably DDA compliant.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Door faults are one failure but there are many other things that are going wrong. Door faults are just the ones that people assume because they are the most public ones. The issue with peak services are that if there is a fault there's little time to sort the issue out as crews are thined and stretched out. Emus don't have advanced computers compared to the newer rollingstock and fault finding is now a real time process to go through. The first gen smus are also in this same boat.

[Stillwater]

I recall not all that long ago a Gympielander being delayed due to a 'computer issue'.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Ah the ice trains. They're a different kind of special since they were made at home in the citytrain fleet.

[Paul B]

6:39 and 6:54 Shorn-City cancelled? guess people don't mind a 45 mins wait in the mornings. Not a peep on translink or QR facebook site 

[ozbob]

6:39 and 6:54 Shorn-City cancelled? guess people don't mind a 45 mins wait in the mornings. Not a peep on translink or QR facebook site 

There were service notices issued Paul. 

See > https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=1862.msg211267#msg211267

and

> https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=1862.msg211270#msg211270

Both were reported via twitter and app.

Not good though to have a poor peak frequency further reduced.  Shocker!

[ozbob]

Been no train issues reported since 7.32am this morning  #winning

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188866

4.07pm Ipswich-Central train delayed 10 mins

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 4.28pm (3 minutes ago)

The 4.07pm Ipswich to Central train is delayed 10 minutes due to a rollingstock issue.

This train is now due to arrive at Central Station at 5.17pm.

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188866

4.07pm Ipswich-Central train running express Corinda-Roma Street

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 4.42pm (3 minutes ago)

The 4.07pm Ipswich to Central train is running express from Corinda to Roma Street station stopping only at Indooroopilly station due to a rollingstock issue.

This train is now due to arrive at Central Station at 5.17pm.

[PoliticalFootball]

Rolling stock issue?

It is too much, to hope, for an actual real description of the issue.

Curious to know how you think this would happen? Very few traincrew actually have any relevant maintenance experience therefore 'door fault' or 'traction fault' is going to be as good as it gets.

[PoliticalFootball]

6:39 and 6:54 Shorn-City cancelled? guess people don't mind a 45 mins wait in the mornings. Not a peep on translink or QR facebook site 

Not good though to have a poor peak frequency further reduced.  Shocker!

I heard there was an issue there this morning as that 6.48am Shorncliffe train left off P4 at Bowen Hills. Possibly a broken down train somewhere?

[PoliticalFootball]

Ah the ice trains. They're a different kind of special since they were made at home in the citytrain fleet.

Never designed for stop/start travel. Can't handle the load.

[ozbob]

Rolling stock issue?

It is too much, to hope, for an actual real description of the issue.

Curious to know how you think this would happen? Very few traincrew actually have any relevant maintenance experience therefore 'door fault' or 'traction fault' is going to be as good as it gets.

Not hard to report known issue e.g.  doors etc. When not known they often report cause to be determined. 

[PoliticalFootball]

Rolling stock issue?

It is too much, to hope, for an actual real description of the issue.

Curious to know how you think this would happen? Very few traincrew actually have any relevant maintenance experience therefore 'door fault' or 'traction fault' is going to be as good as it gets.

Not hard to report known issue e.g.  doors etc. When not known they often report cause to be determined.

I would daresay outside of 'enthusiasts' no one really cares why it's late. Just that it is.

[ozbob]

My experience is that people do like know what is going on, and QR agrees.  There has been constant frustration from passengers for years on inadequate messaging.  Queensland Rail reacted, but the problem is often the message is lost via the double handling through TransLink.

e.g.

Brisbanetimes --> Queensland Rail promises more plain speaking when updating commuters

Brisbane commuters wondering why their train has not turned up will be less likely to hear the problem is blamed on "operational" issues.

In a move to improve the information communicated to passengers during delays, Queensland Rail plans to introduce "terminology which is reflective of the disruption". ...

... Queensland Rail chief executive Nick Easy said the operator was always looking for ways to improve communication with customers during unplanned disruptions to ensure they received timely and accurate travel advice.

"In response to feedback from our customers, we have worked to make our disruption terminology more transparent when the exact cause of the fault is known and is able to be simply communicated via social media, station and on-board announcements," he said. ...

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188876

4.46pm Central-Airport running express Bowen Hills-Eagle Junction station

Last reviewed: Monday 16 Jul 2018 at 4.52pm (an hour ago)

The 4.46pm Central to Domestic Airport train will run express from Bowen Hills to Eagle Junction station due to late running.

The next Central to Domestic Airport train will depart Central Station at 5.16pm.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Ah the ice trains. They're a different kind of special since they were made at home in the citytrain fleet.

Never designed for stop/start travel. Can't handle the load.

Not just the stop start. They are riddled with faults and problematic issues. Such as 152's love affair of defaulting the ATP to safemode causing the train to go into a brake application. 155 has an issue with the door release system that can at times prevent the entire train from opening the passenger doors - more so software wise since the DDA mods but hey when 3 doors open out of the entire 5-6 car train joy is to be had. 157 and its compressor faults. Yes the short running that they now do has had an affect on their reliability but they have a ton more issues that what most know about from translink updates or enthusiasts.

Train crew have some mtce experience in resolving faults. A lot of the old timers know the ins and outs of the EMUs. Sometimes all it takes is a solid shut down and restart. Other times its going through the train to inspect junction boxes. Some crew can solve it on the fly but its easier to pull the train from service than to deal with the flow on effect ie impeeding traffic, crew positioning or worse having it shutdown and be dead in the water.

[PoliticalFootball]

Ah the ice trains. They're a different kind of special since they were made at home in the citytrain fleet.

Never designed for stop/start travel. Can't handle the load.

Not just the stop start. They are riddled with faults and problematic issues. Such as 152's love affair of defaulting the ATP to safemode causing the train to go into a brake application. 155 has an issue with the door release system that can at times prevent the entire train from opening the passenger doors - more so software wise since the DDA mods but hey when 3 doors open out of the entire 5-6 car train joy is to be had. 157 and its compressor faults. Yes the short running that they now do has had an affect on their reliability but they have a ton more issues that what most know about from translink updates or enthusiasts.

Train crew have some mtce experience in resolving faults. A lot of the old timers know the ins and outs of the EMUs. Sometimes all it takes is a solid shut down and restart. Other times its going through the train to inspect junction boxes. Some crew can solve it on the fly but its easier to pull the train from service than to deal with the flow on effect ie impeeding traffic, crew positioning or worse having it shutdown and be dead in the water.

Now you're just showing off


Fully aware of the bastard childs issues. Worked on them for many a year. Also some of the old timers like to talk a big game but ultimately don't know sh%t. Lots of parrots in traincrew.

[HappyTrainGuy]

All I will say it depends on the generation of old timer 

[ozbob]

Last evening ..

https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1018840320115691520

https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1018849391568936961

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Queensland Rail network fails again with service cancellations and delays

QUEENSLAND'S ongoing "Rail Fail" has bitten commuters once more as waves of service cancellations and delays trigger major disruptions across the state's brittle train network.

Still recovering from the October 2016 timetable meltdown, Queensland Rail has recorded 50 service cancellations or delays since it was gripped by a series of "Freaky Friday" failures on Friday the 13th last week.

Another three issues on Sunday were caused by congestion and "heavy passenger loading".

Some services were delayed up to 45 minutes, TransLink's Twitter notifications show.

The rolling disruptions follow a July 7 incident in which one of the state's newly commissioned New Generation Rollingstock trains damaged overhead lines, triggering 20-minute network-wide delays.

Sixty passengers were trapped in another train for an hour in a tunnel due to the power issue.

QR yesterday said the problems on Friday were caused by multiple separate issues, most notably an electrical fault, a mechanical fault and two separate medical issues.

Chief executive Nick Easy said six NGR trains had also been removed from service as a precaution to be inspected by the manufacturer as a result of an earlier mechanical fault.

He said the trains were returned to service yesterday morning.

Mr Easy said the disruptions equated to only 2.11 per cent of the 1192 services on Friday.

But Rail Back on Track advocate Robert Dow said the latest problems reinforced the need for an inquiry into the heavily delayed $4.4 billion NGR contract to buy 75 new trains.

"I understand a lot of it's to do with the aged trains that should have been replaced in 2016 but because of delays with the NGR project they are still up and running," he said.

"We are seriously concerned because it seems the NGR trains are still being very slow to be introduced into service and this is having an impact in terms of increases in mechanical issues, rollingstock issues and unreliability. The root problem is that the NGR trains are late."

He said frustrated commuters were "abandoning the rail network" because of its unreliability.

The NGR trains are to be modified at a cost to taxpayers of at least $150 million to fix design issues, including a failure to comply with disability access legislation.

QR stated in September the trains were "urgently required to replace an ageing fleet".

Both the Palaszczuk Government and State Opposition have committed to releasing secret Cabinet papers in a bid to show how the NGR project hit problems.

[PoliticalFootball]

The 'heavy passenger loading' issues on Sunday were caused by the Broncos game at Suncorp. It happens most big game times. Funny how the CM only sees fit to mention it when it wants to sink the boot in.

[PoliticalFootball]

All I will say it depends on the generation of old timer 

Not really. Worked with blokes in the job for 30 years who should know better yet don't. Also worked with young blokes who have spent 5 mins on trains and know everything.

Which goes back to my original point. Unless it's something obvious like locking up a faulty door then the current reporting is not going to improve. Ie: A P Wire fault in an EMU could be a 100 different things or a high voltage earth fault caused by an animal.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/TransLinkSEQ/status/1018938112561512448

No reason given for the alteration on the web link.

[ozbob]

The 'heavy passenger loading' issues on Sunday were caused by the Broncos game at Suncorp. It happens most big game times. Funny how the CM only sees fit to mention it when it wants to sink the boot in.

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188671

2.07pm Ipswich-Central train delayed 15 mins

Last reviewed: Sunday 15 Jul 2018 at 2.32pm (15 minutes ago)

The 2.07pm Ipswich to Central train is delayed 15 minutes due to heavy passenger loading.

This train is now due to arrive at Ipswich Station at 2.37pm.

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https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188676

3.07pm Central-Caboolture train delayed 15 mins

Last reviewed: Sunday 15 Jul 2018 at 2.37pm (6 minutes ago)

The 3.07pm Central to Caboolture train is delayed 15 minutes due to heavy passenger loading.

This train is now due to arrive at Caboolture Station at 4.12pm.

Not defending the CM but if TransLink used a little foresight and said heavy passenger loading due to NRL at Suncorp Stadium, helps people understand.

Most jurisdictions do put on special extras for football etc.  QR does at times after games but getting there is often just the low frequency timetable, so no great surprise heavy passenger loadings.

[ozbob]

https://translink.com.au/service-updates/188936

5.55am Varsity Lakes to Central train cancelled from Varsity Lakes to Robina

Last reviewed: Tuesday 17 Jul 2018 at 5.59am (5 minutes ago)

The 5.55am Varsity Lakes to Central train has been cancelled from Varsity Lakes to Robina due to a rollingstock issue.

The next Varsity Lakes to Central train departs Varsity Lakes station at 6.02am

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NGR ?

[PoliticalFootball]

The 'heavy passenger loading' issues on Sunday were caused by the Broncos game at Suncorp. It happens most big game times. Funny how the CM only sees fit to mention it when it wants to sink the boot in.

Not defending the CM but if TransLink used a little foresight and said heavy passenger loading due to NRL at Suncorp Stadium, helps people understand.

Most jurisdictions do put on special extras for football etc.  QR does at times after games but getting there is often just the low frequency timetable, so no great surprise heavy passenger loadings.

Depends on a few things usually. Who's playing, ticket sales etc. For eg the Broncos v Eels game a month ago had extra services canned due to low ticket sales. Sunday games usually sell out though. Probably just didn't have the extra units for pregame.