Reported service disruptions rail - no longer in use

[HappyTrainGuy]

Like James I personally want to see the major corridors fixed up first. There is massive... just massive amounts of waste happening there to the point where a few of us had an entire page of a thread dedicated to the BT conga lines across the northern, western and eastern network.

Quick question. Have you ever used the 77 at different times and then the same trip via the CBD SR? Peak hour particularly.

No, but that is hardly relevant.  If you kill the 77, which is already a marginal service, you have buses immediately available to run more 230s, or 359s, or whatever.  Loss aversion for this service would be negligible, and there is not a single stop on the route which is not already served by multiple frequent services on existing other routes.  Like I said, it is a luxury and it baffles me why people are fighting for it when there are so many other better uses for the resources.

And therein the issue lies. How can you fully comment about a route if you have never used it or know its full potential if it was marketed correctly. All you are doing is scrapping one bus route but ignoring the more serious issue across multiple corridors that could provide more services for 325/335/337/338/350/357/359/369 and potentially providing more areas with new services or other routes that need that extra boost during peak hour. Even this very afternoon I saw a 344 with only the driver onboard and this was before it was at Aspley. As I have said previously. Off peak the 77 has minimal time savings and I don't see much need for that but during peak hour is where it's a gold mine when it comes to time savings. If you can nail the transfers you can get to Zillmere station by bus faster than train from Canon Hill. Chermside-Sunnybank Plaza is easily done in 45 minutes yet the JP has a 1h5m transit time. You can easily leap frog onto earlier services. If capacity is an issue during peak hour then get the right buses running. Basically every time I drive home in the morning I see a 336/337 being done by one high capacity bus yet when I get to the Aspley interchange its full of these tiny little buses. Same thing during the day. 345's would be at standing capacity in the afternoon yet when I get to Albany Creek I see one of those brand spanking new ultra high capacity buses doing a 338 run with about 5 people onboard.

Well, at least there might be a few more people on these empty buses then.

[SurfRail]

^ I rarely do this, but seriously - TLDR.

No unique bus stops left without service - tick.

Low frequency - tick.

Higher priorities elsewhere - tick.

Originally introduced as a political gimmick - tick.

The presence or not of other waste in the network is not germane to this route in light of the above.  God only knows how many extra  338s canning this would fund.

[#Metro]

And therein the issue lies. How can you fully comment about a route if you have never used it or know its full potential if it was marketed correctly. All you are doing is scrapping one bus route but ignoring the more serious issue across multiple corridors that could provide more services for 325/335/337/338/350/357/359/369 and potentially providing more areas with new services or other routes that need that extra boost during peak hour. Even this very afternoon I saw a 344 with only the driver onboard and this was before it was at Aspley. As I have said previously. Off peak the 77 has minimal time savings and I don't see much need for that but during peak hour is where it's a gold mine when it comes to time savings. If you can nail the transfers you can get to Zillmere station by bus faster than train from Canon Hill. Chermside-Sunnybank Plaza is easily done in 45 minutes yet the JP has a 1h5m transit time. You can easily leap frog onto earlier services. If capacity is an issue during peak hour then get the right buses running. Basically every time I drive home in the morning I see a 336/337 being done by one high capacity bus yet when I get to the Aspley interchange its full of these tiny little buses. Same thing during the day. 345's would be at standing capacity in the afternoon yet when I get to Albany Creek I see one of those brand spanking new ultra high capacity buses doing a 338 run with about 5 people onboard.

Easy. You look for indicators of success/failure. Has every TL member of staff travelled on every single bus route that is under their control? Doubt it.

Any bus can be full in peak hour. Even 105 Yeronga, 416 Toowong, 161 Paris Hilton Rkt gets full load in peak hour I am sure. The new RBOT 77 runs on the surface where demand generators exist.

If the bus were redeployed elsewhere, it would also be full. Decision needs to be taken on other grounds. IMHO 77 was a gimmick to help sugar up selling the car tunnel, probably designed that way because BCC had control of BT and the Lord Mayor was all too keen to associate himself with the tunnel project until it turned out to  be a case of The Emporor-has-no-clothes Lemon. Putting the bus in the tunnel transit washed the project 'Look, there are benefits for PT too!' when really the central focus was increasing car usage. Same deal with The Legacy Way Tunnel - 'Oh, look 2000 daily express buses using the car tunnel!'. (Interchange at Indooroopilly and all day express rail pattern would achieve exactly the same effect without spending $BN on the tunnel).

The original reason for the service now gone (selling car tunnel, BCC politics), everyone is having loss aversion reactions. The New Bus Network proposal will keep 77 but redesign it for max patronage.

[James]

Easy. You look for indicators of success/failure. Has every TL member of staff travelled on every single bus route that is under their control? Doubt it.

Any bus can be full in peak hour. Even 105 Yeronga, 416 Toowong, 161 Paris Hilton Rkt gets full load in peak hour I am sure. The new RBOT 77 runs on the surface where demand generators exist.

If the bus were redeployed elsewhere, it would also be full. Decision needs to be taken on other grounds. IMHO 77 was a gimmick to help sugar up selling the car tunnel, probably designed that way because BCC had control of BT and the Lord Mayor was all too keen to associate himself with the tunnel project until it turned out to  be a case of The Emporor-has-no-clothes Lemon. Putting the bus in the tunnel transit washed the project 'Look, there are benefits for PT too!' when really the central focus was increasing car usage. Same deal with The Legacy Way Tunnel - 'Oh, look 2000 daily express buses using the car tunnel!'. (Interchange at Indooroopilly and all day express rail pattern would achieve exactly the same effect without spending $BN on the tunnel).

The original reason for the service now gone (selling car tunnel, BCC politics), everyone is having loss aversion reactions. The New Bus Network proposal will keep 77 but redesign it for max patronage.

The funny thing is that no 4xx BCC bus is full in peak hour aside from the buses going to UQ (412s to Toowong and 427/428/432s to Indro). Some of them are carrying barely half seated loads. 'Rocket buses to Kenmore' should never be a thing until we get PT usage in this area to a level which can at least possibly fill one bus in core peak.

I have made my complaints about the LDT 77 before, so I won't restate them, but it is not capturing any of the current 77's market, that's one thing. The current 77 runs on 15 minute frequency in peak - better frequency than almost any 4xx route which isn't a BUZ. Off-peak it is a bit of a lemon - but cutting it/re-timing it to line up with UQ class times would cover that.

I would rather attack the low hanging fruit first, then look for higher efficiencies if they are required. As I have said before, and I will say again, in a connective network, I think the 77 will be far more successful, thanks to there being more benefit using a 77 to get to the southside vs. 333 + 1xx (for example).

[HappyTrainGuy]

The funny thing is that no 4xx BCC bus is full in peak hour aside from the buses going to UQ (412s to Toowong and 427/428/432s to Indro). Some of them are carrying barely half seated loads. 'Rocket buses to Kenmore' should never be a thing until we get PT usage in this area to a level which can at least possibly fill one bus in core peak.

Add the 325/335/357/359 to that list. Really the only buses that get full across Brisbanes northside are the 330/333/340. Outside of that.....

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30041/details

Ipswich line trains are suspended in both directions delays of 15 mintues

Last updated: 3.57pm Wednesday 3 December 2014

Ipswich line trains are suspended in both directions due to a bridge strike at Booval station. Customers can expect delays of up to 15 minutes.

Bridge inspectors are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30376/details

Ipswich and Springfield lines suspended due to overhead power line issue

Last updated: 1.59pm Sunday 7 December 2014

Ipswich and Springfield line trains are suspended in both directions between Sherwood and Roma Street stations due to overhead power line issue at Trainga station.

As a result the following services will be impacted:

    The 12.58pm Central to Ipswich service will terminate at Graceville.
    The 1.13pm Springfield to Central service will terminate at Chelmer.

Rail buses will be replacing these trains to continue their service.

Police and technicians are on site.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30496/details

3.40pm Varsity Lakes to Domestic Airport train delayed 15 minutes

Last updated: 5.03pm Monday 8 December 2014

The 3.40pm Varsity Lakes to Domestic Airport train is delayed 15 minutes due to severe weather. This train is now due to arrive at Central station at 5.14pm and Domestic Airport at 5.40pm.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30511/details

5.09pm Cleveland to Central train cancelled

Last updated: 5.39pm Monday 8 December 2014

The 5.09pm Cleveland to Central train has been cancelled due to severe weather. The next Cleveland to Central train will depart Cleveland station at 5.24pm.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30576/details

Cleveland line trains inbound diverting to Dutton Park

Last updated: 12.41pm Tuesday 9 December 2014

Cleveland line trains travelling inbound will divert to Dutton Park station due to a track fault at Roma Street station. Passengers do not need to depart the train at Dutton Park station as it will continue to Park Road station. Passengers may experience delays of up to 5 minutes.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30596/details

Cleveland line trains suspended

Last updated: 5.46pm Tuesday 9 December 2014

Cleveland line trains are suspended in both directions between Park Road and Buranda stations due to bridge strike at Buranda.

Delays are expected up to 30 minutes.

Technicians are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30641/details

15 mins delays due to track fault: Helensvale-Coomera

Last updated: 6.58am Wednesday 10 December 2014

Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 15 minutes in both directions between Helensvale and Coomera stations due to a track fault.

Technicians are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30656/details

20 min delays due to track fault

Last updated: 11.03am Wednesday 10 December 2014

Airport line trains are delayed up to 20 minutes in both directions due to a track fault.

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[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30671/details

Trains suspended in both directions: Wynnum-Wynnum North

Last updated: 11.34am Wednesday 10 December 2014

Cleveland line trains are suspended in both directions between Wynnum and Wynnum North stations due to a bridge strike at Wynnum. Customers can expect delays of up to 30 minutes

Bridge inspectors are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30711/details

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains delayed

Last updated: 6.13pm Wednesday 10 December 2014

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 10 minutes outbound between Edens Landing and Holmeview stations due to a signal fault between these stations.

Technicians are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30756/details

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains delayed up to 10 minutes outbound

Last updated: 7.29am Thursday 11 December 2014

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 10 minutes outbound between Holmview and Beenleigh stations due to a signal fault at Beenleigh.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30806/details

Trains suspended: Beenleigh-Kuraby

Last updated: 2.28pm Thursday 11 December 2014

Gold Coast and Beenleigh line trains are suspended in both directions between Beenleigh and Kuraby stations due to a boom-gate strike at Holmview. Customers can expect delays of up to 30 minutes.

Technicians are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30816/details

Trains delayed due to severe weather

Last updated: 4.15pm Thursday 11 December 2014

Due to severe weather the following train lines are experiencing delays:

Caboolture, Gold Coast, Airport, Cleveland, Ipswich/Rosewood,  Sunshine Coast and Springfield train lines are delayed up to 10 minutes in both directions.

Doomben, Ferny Grove and Shorncliffe lines are delayed up to 15 minutes in both directions.

As a result, the 3.58pm Doomben to Roma Street train is cancelled from Doomben to Eagle Junction. The next Doomben to Roma Street train departs Doomben station at 4.28pm.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/30816/details

Trains delayed due to severe weather

Last updated: 6.18pm Thursday 11 December 2014

Due to the severe weather, all train lines are delayed:

Airport, Gold Coast, Beenleigh, Springfield, Ipswich/Rosewood, Shorncliffe, Ferny Grove, Caboolture and Doomben trains are delayed up to 15 minutes in both directions,

Cleveland line trains are delayed up to 20 minutes in both directions.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31096/details

10 mins delays due to track fault

Last updated: 6.40am Monday 15 December 2014

Beenleigh line trains are delayed up to 10 minutes outbound due to a track fault at Yeerongpilly.

Technicians are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31136/details

Trains delayed up to 10 mins: Gold Coast and Beenleigh lines

Last updated: 12.46pm Monday 15 December 2014

Gold Coast and Beenleigh line trains are delayed up to 10 minutes in both directions due to a bridge strike at Kuraby.

Technicians are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31156/details

4.36pm Roma Street-Nambour train will not stop at Mooloolah

Last updated: 6.14pm Monday 15 December 2014

The 4.36pm Roma Street to Nambour train will not be stopping at Mooloolah station due to a mechanical incident at Mooloolah station.

Passengers for Mooloolah station should disembark at Landsboroough, where alternate transport will take them to Mooloolah station.

[dancingmongoose]

Funny how TL post nothing about the fact that the DOWN Main was being blocked by an EMU at Roma Street, suspending Caboolture/Nambour services. Was for at least 10 minutes and didn't look like moving by the time I left.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31551/details

Ipswich and Springfield line trains outbond running express Roma Street-Auchenflower

Last updated: 6.07pm Thursday 18 December 2014

Outbound Ipswich and Springfield line trains are running express from Roma Steet to Auchenflower due to a track fault at Milton station. Passengers at Milton station wishing to travel outbound should catch an inbound train to Roma Street station, where they may transfer to an outbound service.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31566/details

All train lines delayed

Last updated: 6.16pm Thursday 18 December 2014

All train lines are delayed up to 15 minutes both directions due to wild weather this afternoon.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31576/details

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains suspended

Last updated: 6.31pm Thursday 18 December 2014

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains are suspended both directions between Kuraby and Ormeau stations due to signal fault at Bethania. Customers can expect delays of up to 45 minutes.

Techicians are en route.

[BrizCommuter]

Good ol TransLink, the 7:20pm update did not mention any delays on the Ferny Grove Line. I was reading this from a Ferny Grove Line train running 45 minutes late.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31741/details

Ferny Grove line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes

Last updated: 8.18am Saturday 20 December 2014

Ferny Grove line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes both directions due to a boom gate issue at Ferny Grove.

Technicians are on site.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31746/details

8.35am Ipswich to Rosewood train cancelled

Last updated: 9.02am Saturday 20 December 2014

The 8.35am Ipswich to Rosewood train has been cancelled due to a mechanical issue. As a consequence, the 9.05am Rosewood to Ipswich train has also been cancelled.

    The next Ipswich to Rosewood train will depart Ipswich station at 9.35am.
    The next Rosewood to Ipswich train will depart Rosewood station at 10.05am.

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This will stuff up shopping plans for many out west ..

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/31816/details

Ipswich and Springfield line trains resumed

Last updated: 12.06pm Monday 22 December 2014

Ipswich and Springfield  line trains have resumed in both directions between Taringa and Chelmer stations following a bridge strike at Indooroopilly. Customers can expect residual delays of up to 30 minutes.

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[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/32271/details

11.07am Ipswich to Central train cancelled

Last updated: 11.25am Monday 29 December 2014

The 11.07am Ipswich to Central train has been cancelled due to a mechanical issue. The next Ipswich to Central train will depart Ipswich station at 11.37am.

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[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/32321/details

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains resumed in both directions

Last updated: 12.32pm Tuesday 30 December 2014

Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains have resumed in both directions between Kuraby and Beenleigh stations following a boom gate incident at Holmview station. Customers can expect residual delays of up to 15 minutes. As a result, the following trains are also affected:

    The 12.10pm Varsity Lakes to Domestic Airport train has been cancelled from Varsity Lakes station to Robina station. The next Varsity Lakes to Domestic Airport train departs Varsity Lakes station at 12.40pm.
    The 10.34am Domestic Airport to Varsity Lakes train is delayed 14 minutes. This train is now due to arrive at Varsity Lakes station at 12.36pm.
    The 10.40am Varsity Lakes to Domestic Airport train is delayed 15 minutes. This train is now due to arrive at Central station at 12.16pm and Domestic Airport station at 12.40pm.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/32346/details

Airport line trains delayed 30 minutes

Last updated: 5.00pm Tuesday 30 December 2014

Airport line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes in both directions due to a track fault at the Airport.

As a result,

Gold Coast line trains are consequently delayed up to 30 minutes. The 4.37pm Domestic Airport to Varsity Lakes train has been cancelled.

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[ozbob]

Twitter

Queensland Rail ‏@QueenslandRail 3 minutes ago

Trains suspended Petrie to Caboolture in both directions due to signal fault. Electricians on site inspecting.

[red dragin]

Twitter

Queensland Rail ‏@QueenslandRail 3 minutes ago

Trains suspended Petrie to Caboolture in both directions due to signal fault. Electricians on site inspecting.

EMU stopped at the northbound signal just before the road crossing at Narangba (boom gates up no lights flashing) - didn't see if it had passengers but likely as people where on the platform.

Three QR uses parked outside cabinets northside of station where the signal gantry is. This was about 4.30pm. All clear when I came back passed before 6pm.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/32711/details

Trains suspended: Nundah-Northgate

Last updated: 10.54am Monday 5 January 2015

Caboolture and Shorncliffe line trains travelling in both directions are suspended due to a track fault near Northgate station. Customers can expect delays of up to 20 minutes.

Technicians are on site.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/33091/details

Gold Coast line trains are suspended until further notice

Last updated: 6.36am Saturday 10 January 2015

Gold Coast line trains are suspended until further notice in both directions between Nerang, Robina and Varsity Lakes stations due to a police incident at Nerang station.

QPS are on site.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/33106/details

Beenleigh Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes

Last updated: 3.48pm Saturday 10 January 2015

Beenleigh Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes both directions between Loganlea and Edens Landing stations due to points failure at Bethania.

Technicians are en route.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/33106/details

Beenleigh Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 60 minutes

Last updated: 4.32pm Saturday 10 January 2015

Beenleigh Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 60 minutes both directions between Loganlea and Edens Landing stations due to points failure at Bethania.

Technicians are on site.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-notices/33106/details

Beenleigh Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 80 minutes

Last updated: 6.23pm Saturday 10 January 2015

Beenleigh Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 80 minutes travelling in both directions between Loganlea and Edens Landing stations due to a points failure at Bethania.

Technicians are currently on site.