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Quote from: techblitz on June 18, 2013, 19:25:17 PM
Im currently on spirit of outback?

Oh I knew it was something like that.  They all look the same to me.  :)
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Quote from: Simon on June 18, 2013, 21:34:37 PM
Quote from: STB on June 18, 2013, 18:49:58 PM
Quote from: ozbob on June 17, 2013, 12:52:32 PM
Simply run a rail shuttle Darra <-> Goodna ...

No  it is all too FUKING hard to write out bits of paper ...

LX at Wacol can be activated manually as needed ..

You can't turnback trains at Goodna, nearest turnback location is Redbank.
Really?  There's points in both directions between Goodna and Redbank, and only in one direction between Redbank and Riverview.  There must be a dark (unsignalled) area, if that's true.

Negative.

There is a set of points from the Up to the Down on the City side of Goodna, allowing trains from the City to turnback at Goodna and head back to the City. There is no turnback available at Goodna for trains from Ipswich to terminate and head back towards Ipswich.

Redbank there is a set of points on the Goodna end of the station that go from Up to Down. On the Ipswich end of the station there is a set of points from Down to Up. Both platforms can be used to terminate and turn trains back from either direction.
There is also a set of points from Down to Up on the Riverview end of Redbank yard (enabling trains to access Redbank Yard). Trains can also use this set of points to run Bi-Di from there, along the Up road in the Down direction and in to the Up platform at Redbank.
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ozbob

Down trains could cross down end Goodna onto the UP.   And then reverse ...  would need authorities that is all ...

Just position crew in trailing cab at Goodna station.
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Quote from: techblitz on June 18, 2013, 21:07:24 PM
Now been delayed 2.5 hours.
Im going to assume since this is a serious safety incident that it will be investigated a lot more beyond tonight.
A lot of the staff seem to be distressed atm and are keeping quiet.
We should be off soon all going well :bo

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@Robert_Dow All trains stopped at Petrie this morning for unknown time. Power problems ahead out of #qr 's control.
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http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1371591748

Trains suspended between Petrie + Strathpine

Last updated: 7.51am Wednesday 19 June 2013

Trains are suspended between Petrie and Strathpine stations due to a signalling fault near Petrie.

Buses are being arranged but not yet operating.

Delays up to 60 minutes are expected.

Customers should consider alternative transport, wherever possible.
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Crowd at Petrie this morning waiting for a bus. http://t.co/ufuvB4vT9f

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Out repair crews have recovered the signal outage at Lawnton. Expect services to resume shortly. Our apologies for the delay.
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Train moving now, hooray. Prefer train over bus any day. Power restored. 7:33am arrived Petrie, departed Petrie 8,20am. Running 47 mins late
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Quote from: petey3801 on June 19, 2013, 01:49:04 AM
Quote from: Simon on June 18, 2013, 21:34:37 PM
Quote from: STB on June 18, 2013, 18:49:58 PM
Quote from: ozbob on June 17, 2013, 12:52:32 PM
Simply run a rail shuttle Darra <-> Goodna ...

No  it is all too FUKING hard to write out bits of paper ...

LX at Wacol can be activated manually as needed ..

You can't turnback trains at Goodna, nearest turnback location is Redbank.
Really?  There's points in both directions between Goodna and Redbank, and only in one direction between Redbank and Riverview.  There must be a dark (unsignalled) area, if that's true.

Negative.

There is a set of points from the Up to the Down on the City side of Goodna, allowing trains from the City to turnback at Goodna and head back to the City. There is no turnback available at Goodna for trains from Ipswich to terminate and head back towards Ipswich.

Redbank there is a set of points on the Goodna end of the station that go from Up to Down. On the Ipswich end of the station there is a set of points from Down to Up. Both platforms can be used to terminate and turn trains back from either direction.
There is also a set of points from Down to Up on the Riverview end of Redbank yard (enabling trains to access Redbank Yard). Trains can also use this set of points to run Bi-Di from there, along the Up road in the Down direction and in to the Up platform at Redbank.
Here's what I am looking at:

I see points in both directions between Goodna and Redbank.

Why can't you turn around at Goodna to/from Ipswich?  If it's unsignalled, you could use paper authorities as ozbob has outlined.  What am I missing?

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I expect buses would be just as fast and involve less paperwork.  Bus Queensland Ipswich depot is just up the road at Redbank.
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ozbob

You are looking at 30 minute frequency so time to turn back doesn't really matter that much.

There is a considerable number of pax between Goodna and Ipswich and intermediate stations during the day, plus a lot of prams etc.,  getting enough buses to bridge the gap say Darra to Goodna would be relatively easy, to turn out a fleet to maintain Darra <-> Ipswich all stations is a big ask ...
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Sorry, apparently the image I linked to in my post above wasn't correctly set up.  I've fixed it now.

petey3801

Havne't got much time right now, but the amount of time and b-s that would be needed to go through with turning back trains in both directions at Goodna wouldn't be worth the effort. It would be much easier and most likely take the same amount of time to do a Redbank - Darra shuttle, where the Ipswich trains can be turned back off the platform with fully signaled moves.

The idea of the shuttle train isn't a bad one, just that it should be Redbank <-> Darra shuttle, instead of Goodna <-> Darra.
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ozbob

Ok thanks Petey.  I just like the thought of Goodna being used both UP and DOWN under such circumstances.

We have had the odd UP trains turning back there ...
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Yeah, turning back Up trains would be fine, but turning back Down trains would get very time consuming and messy IMO.
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http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1371695278

15-minutes delays btwn Beenleigh + Helensvale

Last updated: 12.27pm Thursday 20 June 2013

Trains betweeen Beenleigh and Helensvale stations are delayed in both directions up to 15 minutes due to an overhead power issue.

Trains will continue operating on one track until buses arrive on site. Buses will then replace all trains in both directions betwee Beenleigh and Helensvale until repairs are completed.'
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Quote from: petey3801 on June 20, 2013, 12:08:14 PM
Havne't got much time right now, but the amount of time and b-s that would be needed to go through with turning back trains in both directions at Goodna wouldn't be worth the effort. It would be much easier and most likely take the same amount of time to do a Redbank - Darra shuttle, where the Ipswich trains can be turned back off the platform with fully signaled moves.

The idea of the shuttle train isn't a bad one, just that it should be Redbank <-> Darra shuttle, instead of Goodna <-> Darra.
Quote from: petey3801 on June 20, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Yeah, turning back Up trains would be fine, but turning back Down trains would get very time consuming and messy IMO.
I'm happy to take your word for that.  It was the down trains that needed to be turned back for this particular incident to prevent running out of trains west of Darra.

Taking you at your word does mean that the path pursued was reasonable in the circumstances, I would say.  I'm wondering if they should signal a move at Redbank or Darra to allow turning around, but then if you removed the LX there wouldn't be so much reason to do so.

ozbob

Quote from: petey3801 on June 20, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Yeah, turning back Up trains would be fine, but turning back Down trains would get very time consuming and messy IMO.

Noted.  Good to see the principle being applied ^  above issue.

I reckon if it happens again they are better off bridging the gap say Darra <-> Redbank with shuttle bus or rail and keep the trains conserved to resume normal operations.
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Quote from: ozbob on June 20, 2013, 12:33:33 PM
http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1371695278

15-minutes delays btwn Beenleigh + Helensvale

Last updated: 12.27pm Thursday 20 June 2013

Trains betweeen Beenleigh and Helensvale stations are delayed in both directions up to 15 minutes due to an overhead power issue.

Trains will continue operating on one track until buses arrive on site. Buses will then replace all trains in both directions betwee Beenleigh and Helensvale until repairs are completed.'

http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1371695278

Buses replacing trains btwn Beenleigh + Helensvale

Last updated: 12.59pm Thursday 20 June 2013

Buses are replacing trains in both directions betweeen Beenleigh and Helensvale stations due to an overhead power issue.

Customers should allow for delays up to 60 minutes.
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http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1371760174

Trains suspended: Woombye - Palmwoods

Last updated: 6.31am Friday 21 June 2013

Trains are suspended between Woombye and Palmwoods stations due to a vehicle hitting a rail bridge on Jubilee Terrace.
Customers should expect delays of up to 30 minutes through the area.
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Inbound delays from Beenleigh station

Last updated: 8.39am Friday 21 June 2013

Trains inbound on the Beenleigh line are delayed due to a train experiencing a mechanical fault near Beenleigh station.

    The 8.08am Beenleigh - Bowen Hills train has been cancelled
    The 8.29am Beenleigh - Bowen Hills train has also been cancelled

The 7.48am Varsity Lakes to City (and Airport) train is delayed 10 minutes at this stage behind the broken down 8.08am Beenleigh inbound train. Once the line is clear, this Gold Coast line inbound service will stop all stations Beenleigh to Roma Street to pick up Beenleigh line passengers. As a result, this train's arrivial into CBD stations will be delayed about 20 minutes.
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Quote from: Simon on June 20, 2013, 12:37:21 PM
Quote from: petey3801 on June 20, 2013, 12:08:14 PM
Havne't got much time right now, but the amount of time and b-s that would be needed to go through with turning back trains in both directions at Goodna wouldn't be worth the effort. It would be much easier and most likely take the same amount of time to do a Redbank - Darra shuttle, where the Ipswich trains can be turned back off the platform with fully signaled moves.

The idea of the shuttle train isn't a bad one, just that it should be Redbank <-> Darra shuttle, instead of Goodna <-> Darra.
Quote from: petey3801 on June 20, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Yeah, turning back Up trains would be fine, but turning back Down trains would get very time consuming and messy IMO.
I'm happy to take your word for that.  It was the down trains that needed to be turned back for this particular incident to prevent running out of trains west of Darra.

Taking you at your word does mean that the path pursued was reasonable in the circumstances, I would say.  I'm wondering if they should signal a move at Redbank or Darra to allow turning around, but then if you removed the LX there wouldn't be so much reason to do so.

Probably best to take my word for it, considering it's my job to know the layout  ;)

I still can't see that photo, but I imagine it was either a Google Earth/Maps image (horribly out-dated) or one of the track diagrams from the QR website (likely horribly outdated also).

I have attached a copy of the current layout of Goodna-Redbank (and either side).

Darra and Redbank already have fully signalled turnback movements available. It's just Goodna that only has the ability to turn back Up trains.
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somebody

Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
I still can't see that photo,
Bummer, it worked yesterday.  Try this:


Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
one of the track diagrams from the QR website (likely horribly outdated also).
Correct.

Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
I have attached a copy of the current layout of Goodna-Redbank (and either side).

Darra and Redbank already have fully signalled turnback movements available. It's just Goodna that only has the ability to turn back Up trains.
Ok, the schematic you attach mostly agrees with what I have attempted to post (3rd time lucky).

You are telling me that none of the 3 points west of Goodna allow for signalled moves to turn back trains from Ipswich, correct?  A bit unsociable!  Surely QR have thought that there may be a need to do so at some point, e.g. trackwork.

ozbob

For interest,  a more functional layout at Goodna in days gone by < 1980



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Another bridge strike ....

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11.18am Richlands-Bowen Hills train is delayed 13 mins due to bridge strike at Corinda. Now due at Bowen Hills at 12.10pm. #qr
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The 12.28pm Central - Ipswich train has been cancelled at Corinda due to a mechanical fault. The next train is due in 30 minutes. #qr
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Quote from: Simon on June 21, 2013, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
I still can't see that photo,
Bummer, it worked yesterday.  Try this:


Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
one of the track diagrams from the QR website (likely horribly outdated also).
Correct.

Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 09:48:38 AM
I have attached a copy of the current layout of Goodna-Redbank (and either side).

Darra and Redbank already have fully signalled turnback movements available. It's just Goodna that only has the ability to turn back Up trains.
Ok, the schematic you attach mostly agrees with what I have attempted to post (3rd time lucky).

You are telling me that none of the 3 points west of Goodna allow for signalled moves to turn back trains from Ipswich, correct?  A bit unsociable!  Surely QR have thought that there may be a need to do so at some point, e.g. trackwork.

Got it this time.

Yeah, that's outdated.

The crossover at Goodna is on the Gailes side of Goodna, not the Redbank end.

The two showed between Goodna and Redbank, only the Up to Down (in Up direction) crossover exists to the east of Redbank now, with a Down to Up (looking in Up direction) existing on the western end of Redbank and an Up to Down (looking in Up direction - although can only be used in Down direction) to the west of Redbank yard. The Down to Up (looking in Up direction) crossover to the east of Redbank doesn't exist anymore.

Here is how things can happen:

Up trains can run from the Up line into the Down platform at Goodna to turnback towards the City.
Up trains can run from the Up line into the Down platform at Redbank to turnback towards the City.
Down trains can run from the Down line to the Up line through the crossovers west of the Redbank stabling yard and run in to the Up platform and turn back towards Ipswich.
Down trains can run in to the Down platform at Redbank and turnback towards Ipswich, crossing to the Up using the cross over immediately to the west of Redbank station.
All opinions stated are my own and do not reflect those held by my employer.

ozbob

For many years in days gone by, Goodna had a daily workers train to and from Ipswich Railway workshops.  I understand that train was stabled at Goodna each night as well.  Loco returned to Ipswich light engine.
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Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 13:32:25 PM
Down trains can run from the Down line to the Up line through the crossovers west of the Redbank stabling yard and run in to the Up platform and turn back towards Ipswich.
Down trains can run in to the Down platform at Redbank and turnback towards Ipswich, crossing to the Up using the cross over immediately to the west of Redbank station.
Doesn't either of these more or less meet the criterion outlined by ozbob?  Only difference is Redbank instead of Goodna.

petey3801

Quote from: Simon on June 21, 2013, 15:56:08 PM
Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 13:32:25 PM
Down trains can run from the Down line to the Up line through the crossovers west of the Redbank stabling yard and run in to the Up platform and turn back towards Ipswich.
Down trains can run in to the Down platform at Redbank and turnback towards Ipswich, crossing to the Up using the cross over immediately to the west of Redbank station.
Doesn't either of these more or less meet the criterion outlined by ozbob?  Only difference is Redbank instead of Goodna.
Yes, that's correct, which is what I said originally. It would have to be run Darra to Redbank, not Goodna.
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Quote from: petey3801 on June 22, 2013, 01:33:10 AM
Quote from: Simon on June 21, 2013, 15:56:08 PM
Quote from: petey3801 on June 21, 2013, 13:32:25 PM
Down trains can run from the Down line to the Up line through the crossovers west of the Redbank stabling yard and run in to the Up platform and turn back towards Ipswich.
Down trains can run in to the Down platform at Redbank and turnback towards Ipswich, crossing to the Up using the cross over immediately to the west of Redbank station.
Doesn't either of these more or less meet the criterion outlined by ozbob?  Only difference is Redbank instead of Goodna.
Yes, that's correct, which is what I said originally. It would have to be run Darra to Redbank, not Goodna.
Ah, I read this comment:
Quote from: petey3801 on June 20, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Yeah, turning back Up trains would be fine, but turning back Down trains would get very time consuming and messy IMO.
As referring to turning back down trains at either Goodna or Redbank.  I guess you were just referring to Goodna then.

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http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1372022157

7.06am Caboolture - Roma Street train cancelled

Last updated: 7.15am Monday 24 June 2013

The 7.06am Caboolture - Roma Street train has been cancelled due to a mechanical issue.

The next inbound train departed Caboolture train station at 7.12am.
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7.18am Richlands - Bowen Hills train change

Last updated: 7.33am Monday 24 June 2013

The 7.18am Richlands to Bowen Hills train (that started from Darra station this morning) is now running express Corinda to Roma Street this morning only.

Customers should catch the next inbound Richlands line train about six minutes later or any inbound Ipswich/Rosewood line train.
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2.59pm Beenleigh to Central train disrupted

Last updated: 3.38pm Monday 24 June 2013

The 2.59pm Beenleigh to Central train has been cancelled between Loganlea and Yeerongpilly stations due to a mechanical fault.

A replacement train will start at Yeerongpilly on schedule at 3.41pm.

Customers for stations between Loganlea and Yeerongpilly can catch the next train departing Loganlea at 3.42pm.
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Outbound delays due track fault at Thagoona

Last updated: 7.14am Tuesday 25 June 2013

Trains outbound at Thagoona are delayed up to 20 minutes due to a track fault.

Inbound trains are not affected.
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5.56am Gympie North - Roma Street train delayed

Last updated: 8.23am Monday 1 July 2013

The 5.56am Gympie North-Roma Street train delayed 15 minutes due to an earlier mechanical issue.

It is now estimated to arrive at Roma Street station at 8.59am.

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The 1.20pm Gympie Nth - Roma St train has been delayed up to 10 mins due to mechanical fault. The train is now due at Roma St at 4.32pm #qr

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