Reported service disruptions rail - no longer in use

[ozbob]

Report on 612 ABC Radio that Ipswich trains to be routed via Tennyson ...

Still the exact nature of the problem is unclear ..

[ozbob]

Train services are suspended between South Brisbane - Roma Street Station and Milton - Roma Street Station due to a signalling faults.

Up to 30 minute delays arriving into the City on the Cleveland, Beenleigh/Gold Coast and Rosewood/Ipswich/Richlands lines are expected.

All inbound Ipswich services will be diverting through Corinda and arriving/terminating at South Brisbane.

Buses are being arranged to transport customers from South Brisbane to Roma St Station.

We have a little more information from Translink - here is their latest update:

Train services are suspended between South Brisbane - Roma Street Station and Milton - Roma Street Station due to a signalling faults.

Delays arriving into the City on the Cleveland, Beenleigh/Gold Coast and Rosewood/Ipswich/Richlands lines are expected.

Buses are being arranged to transport customers from South Brisbane to Roma St Station.

Queensland Rail technicians are investigating the fault.

TransLink thanks you for your patience.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/cbd-trains-delayed-after-power-failure-20120314-1uz24.html#ixzz1p21yFXn1

[STB]

Dang, on a day that I usually stay at home until the late morning, I have to head out now for a meeting at 9am.  This will be interesting....

[somebody]

612 reckons Ipswich (Richlands?) trains are running via Tennyson to Sth Brisbane.

How is this going to work?  Reversing capacity at Sth Brisbane is very limited.  One of the only moves I can think of is running in to platform #1 from South Bank #2 and then turning around.  I'm not even sure if that move is signalled.  Either way, you'd be lucky to get more than 6tph doing that.  You can run a yo-yo on the DG but that is extremely limited also.  I doubt you can run bi-di through South Bank #2.

I'd be thinking about running BNH/GC/IPS trains through to the Cleveland line and asking passengers to transfer at Buranda.  Better than having the trains back up.

[ozbob]

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ABC Radio Brisbane ‏ @612brisbane

The Signal Failures at Roma St have been rectified and services have begun moving

[Derwan]

As a result, our train was a 3-car train. 5 at Boondall. No one attempted to board. All waiting for the next train.

[ozbob]

erail 6.53am

14 Mar 2012

Services for CBD Line have resumed as normal.

For further enquiries or timetable information please contact TransLink on 13 12 30 or www.translink.com.au.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Simon, wouldn't suprise me to see trains using southbank P3-P2 inbound then swapping to platforms 1-3 at south Brisbane and using P1 and P3 via southbank to park road, similar setup to Petrie morning peak direction ie one train arrives and another instantly departs. I've used P1 for a city service while a freight used the inbound track across the bridge. I've also had the privilege of racing an out of service SMU across the bridge towards south Brisbane from Roma street. There's no outbound city traffic so they could easily pump trains alot more than 6TPH in and out of South Brisbane with minimal delays.

[ozbob]

Major jackpot --> https://twitter.com/#!/brisbanetimes/status/179670684769857536/photo/1

[ozbob]

I am only guessing, but I think the previous major failure some lessons were learn't.  I commented at the time that some trains could have used Tennyson loop.  By doing that they do get pax into the near city.  As HTG has pointed out the trains can reverse.  I think we were seeing a better planned response this morning but now back to normal running as faults overcome.

[somebody]

Simon, wouldn't suprise me to see trains using southbank P3-P2 inbound then swapping to platforms 1-3 at south Brisbane and using P1 via southbank to park road, similar setup to Petrie morning peak direction ie one train arrives and another instantly departs. I've used P1 for a city service while a freight used the inbound track across the bridge. I've also had the privilege of racing an out of service SMU across the bridge towards south Brisbane from Roma street.

Hmm, checking the track diagram, there is indeed a crossover to reach South Bank #1 from Sth Brisbane #2, but not from the DG (#3).  I guess there is indeed bi-di @Sth Brisbane or that wouldn't make sense.

[somebody]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1331669037

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Train services have resumed after a recent signalling fault. 

Up to 30 minute delays across the network for some customers travelling into the City are expected.


TransLink thanks you for your patience.

[Derwan]

This is normal? Sat at Albion for several minutes. Now stopped between Albion and Bowen Hills.

Edit. ERail said "normal".

[HappyTrainGuy]

Its a double move. Send a few trains via inbound DG then hold others on the middle track. Once the South Brisbane platforms are full send them back to Park Road/Yeerongpilly via the DG to make use of the extra available capacity of the DG not being reserved for the XPT due to it running earlier because of AEST. Once everyone is clear of the DG send more inbound on the DG while trains on the middle track turn at South Brisbane P1-P2 to transfer back via South Bank P1. Its not ideal but in a major core fault its more than enough.

It would look something like:
SB P3 to SthB P1
SB P3 to SthB P2
SB P3 to SthB P3
SthB P1 to SB P1
SB P3 to SthB P1
SthB P2 to SB P3
SthB P3 to SB P3
SB P2 to SthB P2
SthB P1 to SB P3
SB P2 to SthB P1
SthB P2 to SB P1
SB P3 to SthB P3
etc.

Possible moves are
Southbank P3 transfer middle track transfer South Brisbane P1. Southbank P3 transfer South Brisbane P2. Southbank P3 to South Brisbane P3.
South Brisbane P1 to South Bank P1. South Brisbane P2 transfer to Southbank P1. South Brisbane P1 transfer South Bank P3. South Brisbane P3 to Park Road P4.

Depending on what signal is at fault some trains could be stowed on the bridge if the inbound rush started to get a bit crowded.

[somebody]

Yes.

The DG adds a small amount of capacity in those cases, but the Cleveland line can't use it AIUI.  No matter though.

If all northbound trains run through Park Rd #2 & #3 then the DG can run a train up and back I estimate every 20 minutes or so by running south through Park Rd #4 and reversing on Sth Brisbane #3.  Reversing at South Bank instead would increase the capacity of this move as there wouldn't be an issue with filling Sth Bris #1 & #2 from South Bank #2.

[somebody]

Another problem at Roma St apparently according to 612.

[ozbob]

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TransLink SEQ ‏ @TransLinkSEQ

Train delays improving across the peak. Some lines <20min delays outbound and <10min delays inbound. http://www.translink.com.au for updates.

[Cam]

Its seems commuters in SEQ will be subject to regular track/signal/power faults indefinately. Hopefully, the design for CRR allows services from Ipswich to enter the tunnel at Yeerongpilly in such an event post CRR.

It would be also be sensible to have direct services post CRR from Ipswich to Woolloongabba when there are events at the Gabba.

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Minister on train delays: 'It's not good enough'

[HappyTrainGuy]

Honestly, what else do you expect if there is a small fault on a section of track that most lines use.

[somebody]

Honestly, what else do you expect if there is a small fault on a section of track that most lines use.

Electrical separation between the mains and suburbans?  Taking out both at once is somewhat nasty.

EDIT: I guess that would be a tad difficult without removing crossovers allowing the suburbans to cross the mains at Roma St and other locations.

[#Metro]

Brisbanetimes --> Minister on train delays: 'It's not good enough'

Yawn, roll out all the faux anger, I feel your pain, summon QR to the office like a naughty child at school.

Everyone (at least on this forum) knows that the network is fault intolerant because of the shape of the network, the fact that it is an "everything to the centre" network
that funnels everything through a single core. A single point (excuse the play on words here) of failure within the core will mean that EVERYTHING will shut down.

And this will CONTINUE TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT until such time Cross River Rail comes along (or something else) and the geometry of the network is changes
to decentralise the core and physically separate the lines from each other.

[Golliwog]

Honestly, what else do you expect if there is a small fault on a section of track that most lines use.

Electrical separation between the mains and suburbans?  Taking out both at once is somewhat nasty.

EDIT: I guess that would be a tad difficult without removing crossovers allowing the suburbans to cross the mains at Roma St and other locations.

I'd certainly agree with this, even if just to avoid things like this morning and two weeks ago.

[ozbob]

Queensland Times --> Outage bad news for commuters

[ozbob]

Courier Mail --> Commuter anger at yet more lengthy train delays

[Golliwog]

There was a signalling fault outbound at Park Rd this afternoon around 3pm. It was for the junction just south of the station. Station staff kept pax well informed of plans to shift all outbound trans to P3, where the trains were up to and when they were expected. Even detailed to Cleveland pax that their train would be reversing at Dutton Park to get to Cleveland. However they fixed it in about 30 minutes and only 1 GC service (that I saw anyway) used P3. Excellent customer service, he even explained that the Beenleigh train which was meant to go before the GC train couldn't because it was on the track that led to the signal fault so it was waiting at another signal further back.

[ozbob]

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ABC Radio Brisbane ‏ @612brisbane

QR: A points failure at Bethania has just occurred, the 06:48 Varsity Lakes to Airport service is currently 11 minutes behind schedule.

[ozbob]

erail 7.52am

15 Mar 2012

Disruptions on Gold Coast Line due to signalling fault. Expect 1 hr delay. Service to resume by 9:30 AM.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1331762053

Gold Coast/Beenleigh Line delays

Train services on the Beenleigh and Gold Coast Line may be delayed up to 60 minutes due to points failure at Bethania.

Buses are being arranged to transport customers.

Two services are currently delayed:

    The 6.48am Varsity Lakes - Airport  train is delayed by 11 minutes
    The 7.29am Beenleigh - City train is delayed by 9 minutes.

Queensland Rail technicians are working on site to remedy the fault.

[Fares_Fair]

wow, day after day after day ....

[ozbob]

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Campbell Newman ‏ @Campbell_Newman

More train delays today from this tired labor govt who can't even bother to order trains with seats ! LNP will get Qld back on track !

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Time will tell ...

[Stillwater]

Hello oooooooooooo ...................... Neil Scales, Oh Ghost Who Walks .............. He might find novel the Australian practice of giving everyone a nickname, but it is too early and too unkind to call him The Phantom

[somebody]

Hello oooooooooooo ...................... Neil Scales, Oh Ghost Who Walks .............. He might find novel the Australian practice of giving everyone a nickname, but it is too early and too unkind to call him The Phantom

To our knowledge he hasn't started yet, so isn't that a bit unkind?  Unless you know he has.

[ozbob]

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ABC Radio Brisbane ‏ @612brisbane

05:50 Nambour to Roma St service is currently 12 minutes behind schedule in the Woombye area as a consequence of a mechanical issue

[ozbob]

erail 6.52am

16 Mar 2012

30 mins delay for services on Caboolture Line due to crossing issue. Service to resume by 7:30 AM.

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

16th March 2012

Caution:  Lunatic motorists are everywhere ...

Greetings,

Any chance of a political party actually getting on top of the lunatic motorists who continue to drive into boom gates and disobey road rules?

Have you actually got any courage?

Ban them for life, with full cost recovery.

Best wishes

Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

erail 7.13am

16 Mar 2012

30 mins delay for services on Caboolture Line due to crossing issue. Service to resume by 8:00 AM.

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1331844688

Trains suspended: Bald Hills - Carseldine

Train services are suspended between Bald Hills and Carseldine stations due to a traffic incident at the the Telegraph Rd rail crossing in Bald Hills.

Delays of up to 30 minutes are expected.

Queensland Rail technicians and Queensland Police are en route to repair the damage and provide traffic management.

[Fares_Fair]

Twitter 8:07am

@QueenslandRail Thank you for keeping us informed via Twitter. I only hope the driver pays for the damage he's caused.

[ozbob]

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TransLink SEQ ‏ @TransLinkSEQ

The 11.07am Central to Caboolture train is delayed up to 15 minutes due to a points problem at Northgate.