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[HappyTrainGuy]

The 7.15am Ipswich to Central train has been cancelled from Ipswich to Roma Street due to a delay preparing the train for service. The next Ipswich to Central train is due to depart Ipswich station at 7.27am.

If it's the one I heard there was an electronic fault that couldn't be sorted out by the crew.

[ozbob]

The 8.08am Nambour to Central train has been cancelled from Caboolture to Bowen Hills due to a train fault. The next Nambour to Central train will depart Nambour station at 9.08am.

[STB]

Is there a record in graph format tracking all of these disruptions due to train faults?  Seems like the number has well over skyrocketed now.  Obviously the ICE sets will break down more often than other rollingstock, due to the age of them, but in regards to the others, do we know what rollingstock is involved, surely it can't be all NGRs, and in fact if it's on the Beenleigh/Ferny Grove line, it certainly will not be an NGR.

[Arnz]

The Sunshine Coast Line supposedly starts NGR services around mid-late March, so it'll likely be one of the older IMUs (or SMU/IMU hybrids) breaking down.

[ozbob]

Is there a record in graph format tracking all of these disruptions due to train faults?  Seems like the number has well over skyrocketed now.  Obviously the ICE sets will break down more often than other rollingstock, due to the age of them, but in regards to the others, do we know what rollingstock is involved, surely it can't be all NGRs, and in fact if it's on the Beenleigh/Ferny Grove line, it certainly will not be an NGR.

No, not public at least. The only thing we can work from is the TransLink service disruptions and we know that not all disruptions are reported.
As I said above " ... What is the exact nature of these train faults please?  Looking at the line distribution it would seem both the older trains of the fleet are giving problems as well as the much newer New Generation Rollingstock (NGR) trains. ... "

The ' train faults ' involve both the old fleet and the NGRs.  I was shown briefly a few months ago a comparison of the number of train faults between the QR Fleet and NGRs.  They were roughly equivalent.  The only way we will probably find out accurate numbers and cause is via RTI.

[ozbob]

Ferny Grove line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes inbound and outbound between Bowen Hills and Ferny Grove stations due to a signalling issue.

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The 12.56pm Central to Ferny Grove train has been cancelled from Bowen Hills to Ferny Grove due to a signalling issue. The next Central to Ferny Grove train was due to depart Central station at 1.11pm.

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The 1.47pm Ferny Grove to Central train has been cancelled due to a signalling issue. The next Ferny Grove to Central train will depart Ferny Grove station at 2.02pm.

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The 1.22pm Roma Street to Ferny Grove train has been cancelled from Bowen Hills to Ferny Grove due to a signalling issue. The next Roma Street to Ferny Grove train was due to depart Roma Street station at 1.37pm.

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The 2.17pm Central to Ferny Grove train has been cancelled from Ferny Grove to Bowen Hills due to a signalling issue. The next Ferny Grove to Central train will depart Ferny Grove station at 2.32pm.

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The 2.26pm Central to Ferny Grove train has been cancelled between Bowen Hills and Ferny Grove stations due to a signalling issue. The next Central to Ferny Grove train will depart Central Station at 2.41pm.

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[ozbob]

Caboolture, Sunshine Coast, Shorncliffe, Redcliffe Peninsula line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes in both directions between Geebung and Northgate stations due to a power outage.

(The northern line is presently being impacted by a severe storm).

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The 4.19pm Roma Street to Doomben train has been cancelled due to a power outage. The next Roma Street to Doomben train will depart Roma Street Station at 4.49pm.

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The 4.58pm Doomben to Central train has been cancelled due to a power outage. The next Doomben to Central train will depart Doomben Station at 5.28pm.

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The 5.05pm Caboolture to Central train will run express from Northgate to Bowen Hills due to a power outage.

[ozbob]

UPDATE: Multiple train lines have returned to normal schedule following an earlier power outage. Customers can expect residual delays of up to 30 mins in both directions.

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Ipswich and Springfield line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes outbound due to a power outage.

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The 5.24pm Roma Street to Nambour train is delayed 15 minutes due to boarding delays. This train is now due to arrive at Nambour Station at 7.31pm.

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The 5.32pm Nambour to Roma Street train is delayed 34 minutes due to a signalling issue caused by storm activity. This train is now due to arrive at Roma Street Station at 8.34pm.

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UPDATE: Ipswich and Springfield line trains are delayed up to 15 minutes outbound due to a power outage.

[ozbob]

22nd January

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The 5.42am Northgate to Central train has been cancelled from Northgate to Bowen Hills station due to a train fault. The next Northgate to Central train will depart Northgate station at 5.57am.

[ozbob]

[ozbob]

The 5.56am Gympie North to Roma Street train is delayed 30 minutes due to a signalling issue at Nambour. This train is now due to arrive at Roma Street station at 9.26am.

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The 7.26am Nambour to Roma Street train is delayed 40 minutes due to a signalling issue at Nambour. This train is now due to arrive at Roma Street station at 9.57am.

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The 8.08am Nambour to Central train is delayed 30 minutes due to a signalling issue at Nambour. This train is now due to arrive at Central station at 10.28am.

[ozbob]

UPDATE: The 7.26am Nambour to Roma Street train has been cancelled from Caboolture to Roma Street station due to an earlier signalling issue at Nambour. The next Nambour to Roma Street train was due to depart Nambour Station at 8.08am.

[ozbob]

Beenleigh, Cleveland and Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 15 minutes inbound and outbound due to a disruption in radio communications.

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The 9.08am Nambour to Ipswich train is delayed 15 minutes due to the earlier signalling issue at Nambour. This train is now due to arrive at Ipswich station at 12.11pm.

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UPDATE: The 9.08am Nambour to Ipswich train will now run express from Milton to Darra, stopping only at Indooroopilly, due to the earlier signalling issue at Nambour.

[ozbob]

The 4.46pm Bowen Hills to Cleveland train is delayed 10 minutes due to a train fault. This train is now due to arrive at Cleveland Station at 6pm.

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Sunshine coast line trains are delayed up to 30 minutes in both directions due to a signalling issue.
6:35 PM · Jan 22, 2020

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The 5pm Roma Street to Nambour train is delayed 45 minutes due to a signalling issue. This train is now due to arrive at Nambour Station at 7.37pm.

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Sunshine coast line trains have returned to normal schedule following an earlier signalling issue. No residual delays to be expected.
8:18 PM · Jan 22, 2020

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Thirteen faults in one day: Spike in train cancellations raises questions

A string of cancelled or delayed trains across Brisbane's rail network has prompted questions about the possible causes, but Queensland Rail says "train faults" are not becoming more frequent.

On Monday there were 13 reported cancellations or delays attributed by TransLink to "train faults", with rail lobbyists questioning why so many occurred in just one day.

Public transport lobby group Rail Back On Track spokesman Robert Dow said the faults appeared to be occurring across the entire rail network, across both new generation rollingstock and older trains still in operation.

"There are enough problems for the rail operator, and passengers, having to cope with bridge strikes, overhead power failures, signalling failures, police incidents etc without having to worry about the increasing number of services cancelled or delayed due to 'train faults'," Mr Dow said.

Mr Dow noted the faults occurred on a day that ended in strong storms, causing more cancellations and delays for commuters across the south-eastern network.

Queensland Rail chief executive Nick Easy said trains, like private cars, could have problems that needed to be fixed.

He said from January 1 to January 19, 1.3 per cent of Queensland Rail's 19,825 timetabled services experienced train faults.

That amounts to 257 services affected by a train fault, which Mr Easy said did not indicate an increase in reported train faults compared with data from the past six months.

"Train faults can range from unforeseen mechanical-related issues to issues involving the doors of a train, which impact boarding times," Mr Easy said.

"While every effort is made to rectify train faults while the train is on the network, to ensure the safety of our staff and customers decisions may be made to remove a train from service until repairs can be completed."

Mr Dow said he and other members of Rail Back on Track suspected many of the reported "train faults" were due to doors not closing or becoming stuck.

That meant delays for commuters not just of 10 or 20 minutes while waiting for the next train, but potential delays throughout their commute to home or work.

Mr Easy said Queensland Rail had "one of the strictest on-time running targets in the country" and a "comprehensive maintenance program" for the south-east Queensland train fleet.

"But with more than 1 million customer trips and 8290 services per week, our network can be subjected to unplanned disruptions from time to time – just like any other network across the world," he said.

[ozbob]

Huh?

If there were 257 reported train faults in 19 days then that equals 13.5 daily average ...

Is that acceptable?  No, I don't think it is ...

I am assuming that the services includes those delivered by the QR fleet and the NGR trains.  Will check that.

[ozbob]

23rd January ...

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The 7.09am Shorncliffe to Central train will run express from Nudgee to Northgate and then from Northgate to Eagle Junction station due to a train fault.

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The 7.28am Manly to Central train will run express from Morningside to Buranda due to a congestion on the Cleveland line.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Yes train delays are NGR and QR fleet. And faults is a very broad term. In fact some trains will have a fault, get cancelled, crews will fix the fault on board and dead runs back to the terminus/city to form the next service to prevent delays on the line. Crews also fix faults while the train in still in service without passengers sometimes knowing. Sometimes trains will be stowed or returned back to Mayne under its own power or under tow.

[ozbob]

^ thanks HTG.  Yes, I appreciate not all faults will results in a service cancellation or delay, but there does seem a lot are resulting in just that of late.  I have asked QR if they will give us a breakdown of the actual causes.  Just be nice to know.  There has been a steady stream of mentions in social media of door issues still on NGRs, but I expect that is probably a problem on the older fleet too from time to time.

[JimmyP]

I do also wonder if some of the train fault delay reporting on the TL website is actually trains stuck behind the train with the fault, so (for example) TL reports 3 trains delayed on the same line due to a train fault, but it is only one train with a fault amd the other two are just delayed as a result of that?
Definitely wouldn't explain all of it of course, but may explain some of the random spikes?

[ozbob]

Yo JimmyP.  Indeed, often they are not new 'train faults' as such but follow on consequences.  Sometimes they do indicate ' the result of an earlier train fault ' but not always. This makes it difficult to know what the absolute number of faults are that cause a delay or cancellation.

I have raised this before.  I think the rail operator (QR) should do its own direct reporting of disruptions so that it is more accurate and timely (TransLink often butcher the message) and is prone to things like #hashtag errors that stuff up the QR auto-retweets etc.   Metro Melbourne do their own, as does Sydney trains.

[ozbob]

The 9.29am Roma Street to Gympie North train is delayed 35 minutes due to a train fault. This train is now due to arrive at Gympie North station at 1.14pm.

[ozbob]

 

[ozbob]

Trains are currently suspended between Kingston and Kuraby stations due to a security incident. Customers can expect delays of up to 11 mins. Queensland Police are en site.

[ozbob]

Trains have resumed between Kingston and Kuraby stations following an earlier incident requiring emergency services. Customers can expect residual delays of up to 12 minutes.

[ozbob]

The 10.07am Central to Nambour train is delayed up to 20 minutes due to a signal issue at Northgate. This train is now due to arrive at Nambour Station at 12.16pm.

[HappyTrainGuy]

^ thanks HTG.  Yes, I appreciate not all faults will results in a service cancellation or delay, but there does seem a lot are resulting in just that of late.  I have asked QR if they will give us a breakdown of the actual causes.  Just be nice to know.  There has been a steady stream of mentions in social media of door issues still on NGRs, but I expect that is probably a problem on the older fleet too from time to time.

But still be cautious reading into the delays from a unreliable twitter/provider source.

The 5pm Roma Street to Gympie North train is delayed 13 minutes due to a traincrew failing to make a scheduled stop at Roma Street.

This train is now due to arrive at Gympie North Station at 8.14pm.

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Incorrect. Redcliffe service 767 had a medical emergency at Central and delayed the proceeding Gympie and Caboolture train. Scheduled crew change for 155 occurred at Bowen Hills. Caboolture and Gympie trains were rerouted to platform 6/7 at Roma street (P6 caboolture and p7 gympie) as a result of 767 now isolated and out of service on P6 at Central. The Northgate service of 759 was cancelled at central P4 and turned into the replacement Redcliffe service for 767. There was a slight delay for passengers to make the transfer.

Most "Door problems" are just what the public see and what the media will report on usually as a result of someone with video footage or reusing file footage. Most of the common NGR designed door faults have been resolved for quite a while now with most issues actually relating to general use and by products. And door issues can be many things. On the EMU's you sometimes would have noticed one door closes slower than the other. A lot of the time that's the end result of someone forcing the door open/releasing/open as the door was trying to close. NGR units are nearly the majority of the fleet now with EMU's, IMU100's and SMU units being swapped around daily so they are also going to have a larger percentage of recorded faults.

[ozbob]

Yo JimmyP.  Indeed, often they are not new 'train faults' as such but follow on consequences.  Sometimes they do indicate ' the result of an earlier train fault ' but not always. This makes it difficult to know what the absolute number of faults are that cause a delay or cancellation.

I have raised this before.  I think the rail operator (QR) should do its own direct reporting of disruptions so that it is more accurate and timely (TransLink often butcher the message) and is prone to things like #hashtag errors that stuff up the QR auto-retweets etc.   Metro Melbourne do their own, as does Sydney trains.

https://twitter.com/metrotrains/status/1220188669195063296

[ozbob]

Airport, Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains are delayed up to 20 minutes in both directions due to a level crossing fault.
4:35 PM · Jan 23, 2020

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5.40pm Coopers Plains to Central train has been cancelled between Coopers Plains and Roma Street stations due to a level crossing fault. The next Coopers Plains to Central train will depart Coopers Plains Station at 5.55pm.

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The 4.57pm Central to Kuraby train has been cancelled due to a level crossing fault. The next Central to Kuraby train will depart Central Station * at 5.04pm.

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Airport, Beenleigh and Gold Coast line trains have returned to normal schedule following an earlier level crossing fault. No residual delays are to be expected.
5:25 PM · Jan 23, 2020

[HappyTrainGuy]

Yo JimmyP.  Indeed, often they are not new 'train faults' as such but follow on consequences.  Sometimes they do indicate ' the result of an earlier train fault ' but not always. This makes it difficult to know what the absolute number of faults are that cause a delay or cancellation.

I have raised this before.  I think the rail operator (QR) should do its own direct reporting of disruptions so that it is more accurate and timely (TransLink often butcher the message) and is prone to things like #hashtag errors that stuff up the QR auto-retweets etc.   Metro Melbourne do their own, as does Sydney trains.

https://twitter.com/metrotrains/status/1220188669195063296

...........eRail 

[ozbob]

Ha.  This Metro Melbourne thing is set up via a Twitter chat box.

I just went through the procedure and signed up for alerts [ https://t.co/jV12hxyEoV ]

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[ozbob]

24th January ...

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The 5.56am Gympie North to Roma Street train is delayed 10 minutes due to a train fault. This train is now due to arrive at Roma Street station at 8.58am.

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The 7.49am Domestic Airport to Central train has been cancelled due to a signalling issue. The next Domestic Airport to Central train will depart Domestic Airport station at 8.04am.

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The 8.14am Central to Park Road train has been cancelled due to a signalling issue. The next Central to Park Road train will depart Central station at 8.29am.

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The 7.29am Manly to Central train will run express from Morningside to Park Road due to a train fault.

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The 11.23am Bowen Hills to Varsity Lakes train is delayed 20 minutes due to a customer requiring emergency services. This train will now arrive at Varsity Lakes station at 1.12pm.

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The 11.34am Central to Beenleigh train is delayed 15 minutes due to a customer requiring medical assistance. This train is now due to arrive at Beenleigh station at 12.56pm.

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The 11.29am Central to Varsity Lakes train is cancelled due to a customer requiring medical assistance. The next Central to Varsity Lakes train departed Central station at 11.59am.

[ozbob]

The 1.40pm Varsity Lakes to Roma Street train is cancelled due to a rostering matter. The next Varsity Lakes to Roma Street train will depart Varsity Lakes station at 2.10pm.

[ozbob]

The 11.26pm Central station to Ferny Grove station train is delayed 14 minutes due to a train fault. This train is now due to arrive at Ferny Grove station, platform 2, Ferny Grove at 12.11pm.

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UPDATED: The 11.26pm Central station to Ferny Grove station train is delayed 14 minutes due to a train fault. This train is now due to arrive at Ferny Grove station, platform 2, Ferny Grove at 12.11am.

[ozbob]

[ozbob]

25th January ...

No reported service disruptions

[ozbob]

26th January ...   

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The 8.31am Central to Ipswich train has been cancelled due to a train fault. The next Central to Ipswich train will depart Central station at 9.01am.

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The 9.37am Ipswich to Central train has been cancelled due to a train fault. The next Ipswich to Central train will depart Ipswich station at 10.07am.

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Update: The 9.37am Ipswich to Central train has been cancelled from Ipswich to Darra station due to a train fault. The Darra to Central train will depart Darra station at 10.07am.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/metrotrains/status/1220188669195063296

Received my first alert.  Trains resumed today between Caulfield and FSS.

https://twitter.com/metrotrains/status/1221544679809769472

[ozbob]

27th January ...

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The 5.51am Gympie North to Roma Street train is delayed 20 minutes due to a signalling issue at Yandina. This train is now due to arrive at Roma Street station at 8.58am.

[ozbob]

The 10.18am Beenleigh to Central train is delayed 14 minutes due to an incident requiring emergency services. This train is now due to arrive at Central Station at 11.38am.