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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2020, 01:33:50 PM »
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/exclusive-transport-minister-mark-bailey-calls-on-lnp-to-dump-mp-michael-hart-from-light-rail-planning-over-perceived-conflicts/news-story/ead9061f31e8eca437667920beb74809

Exclusive: Transport Minister Mark Bailey calls on LNP to dump MP Michael Hart from light rail planning
BURLEIGH MP Michael Hart has been asked to step away from light rail planning because he has two perceived conflicts —


Full article elsewhere?

You cant make this up. LNP claims that Boggo Rd station was built to benefit Jackie Trad and they ignored the expert advice, conveniently ignoring that boggo rd has been planned for a decade.

Meanwhile, Michael Hart wants to ignore expert advice with his pet Varsity Lakes route, for the benefit of two properties (His high rise apartment in Palm Beach, and his brewery in West Burleigh), and says that hes’s had the idea since 2012.
These are existing businesses and properties the MP has owned and had interest in for a long time in the area. A lot of business and property owners are likely to benefit from.future infrastructure in the area. He is only a local MP contributing ideas. He is not in control of signing off on the project. He has just as much say as any other person in the area. The Jackie Trad thing was different.
The Jackie Trad thing was exactly the same

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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2020, 01:39:24 PM »
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/exclusive-transport-minister-mark-bailey-calls-on-lnp-to-dump-mp-michael-hart-from-light-rail-planning-over-perceived-conflicts/news-story/ead9061f31e8eca437667920beb74809

Exclusive: Transport Minister Mark Bailey calls on LNP to dump MP Michael Hart from light rail planning
BURLEIGH MP Michael Hart has been asked to step away from light rail planning because he has two perceived conflicts —


Full article elsewhere?

You cant make this up. LNP claims that Boggo Rd station was built to benefit Jackie Trad and they ignored the expert advice, conveniently ignoring that boggo rd has been planned for a decade.

Meanwhile, Michael Hart wants to ignore expert advice with his pet Varsity Lakes route, for the benefit of two properties (His high rise apartment in Palm Beach, and his brewery in West Burleigh), and says that hes’s had the idea since 2012.
These are existing businesses and properties the MP has owned and had interest in for a long time in the area. A lot of business and property owners are likely to benefit from.future infrastructure in the area. He is only a local MP contributing ideas. He is not in control of signing off on the project. He has just as much say as any other person in the area. The Jackie Trad thing was different.
The Jackie Trad thing was exactly the same

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No it's not Jackie Trad was in charge of the CRR project with direct involvement. Michael Hart is not in charge of the LRT project and is unlikely to become Transport Minister if LNP are elected. It's just Politics by Labor in Parliament.

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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2020, 01:51:01 PM »
and says that hes’s had the idea since 2012

He has, unfortunately.  I met him at Parliament during the term of the Newman Government and was singularly unimpressed by his understanding of anything vaguely connected with transport.  He's a goose.
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2020, 03:57:36 PM »
I can see the LNP announcing the heavy rail being extended to the GC Airport as part of the upcoming election. They have mentioned it on more than one occasion now.

Let's hope this stupid idea of light rail going down the M1 corridor is squashed.  :frs:

Stop playing politics and wasting tax payer money.

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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2020, 04:09:30 PM »
Yeah, if we are lucky, we might get heavy rail vs light rail as the election commitment.

But at this stage the LNP have only really commited to studies, with $1b fund for actual projects, and a lot of that $1b is going to be used up by car park projects.

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« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2020, 12:59:04 PM »
https://twitter.com/GCBulletin/status/1306003354036789248
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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2020, 03:54:27 PM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast light rail stage 4: Full community consultation details into Palm Beach tram extension

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TRANSPORT Minister Mark Bailey has revealed when Gold Coast residents will have their say on the Burleigh to Coolangatta light rail extension.

A 12-week community consultation program will begin in 2021 and will look at the proposed route of the tram system as well as what it means for the southern Gold Coast.

It will include:

* The State Government opening a shopfront at Palm Beach over the 12 weeks so community can drop in to discuss project proposal subject to COVID-19 restrictions.

* Further face-to-face sessions along the route.

* A project newsletter to be delivered to about 38,000 residents and businesses in Burleigh, Elanora, Palm Beach, Currumbin and Tugun at the start of consultation.

* A dedicated consultation web page where the community can provide feedback via online engagement tools videos and interactive images of what a completed project could look like based on a high-quality 3D visualisation model of the corridor.

* A dedicated consultation hotline and email so the community can speak directly with the project team.

“There’s been plenty of interest in what consultation for a future stage of light rail will involve,” Mr Bailey said.

The consultation will be part of the $7 million business case, which is jointly funded by the State Government and Gold Coast City Council.

“This business case will support the next critical steps needed to push major transport investment on the Gold Coast forward, which is vital for Queensland’s economic recovery,” Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said in August.

“This is about building a pipeline of projects that can continue to support and create jobs, boost our economy and improve transport for locals, particularly those living on the southern end of the Gold Coast.”

Construction is expected to begin in 2023 once Stage 3 between Broadbeach and Burleigh is completed.
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2020, 03:58:59 PM »
Why aren't Coolangatta residents included in the consultation?

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« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2020, 01:11:13 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> New southern Gold Coast light rail route to run west of Burleigh, joining heavy rail and missing Palm Beach

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A NEW southern route for light rail has been proposed, calling for it to run west of Burleigh and join heavy rail before switching back to the coast near Tugun, completely sidestepping Palm Beach.

The Southern Gold Coast Think Tank, a group which includes planners and architects, has put forward the alternative tram extension in a brief sent to the office of Transport Minister Mark Bailey.

SGCTT spokesperson Philip Follent, the former City Architect, said that instead of heading south from Burleigh along the Gold Coast Highway, the light rail could veer west past Treetops Plaza Shopping Centre to the Boral quarry near the M1 before joining the proposed heavy rail route.

The trams could then head south across Tallebudgera Creek to Elanora before veering east again over Currumbin Creek to Stewart Road at Currumbin, near the warehousing sector, and finally south to Tugun and the Gold Coast Airport.

In an email to Mr Bailey’s chief advisors, Mr Follent wrote: “I believe the route from Burleigh to Coolangatta has all too easily been adopted as the most expedient – seemingly shortest route but with unrealistic costings in relation to the city’s most undulating, environmentally sensitive topography and creek crossings as well as scant regard for social impacts.

“Any replication of the harsh urban outcome of Stage 1 has no place in southern Gold Coast.”

Mr Follent is a supporter of light rail but with proper planning that improves urban areas.

In the submission, the SGCTT made key points:

• The southern end coastal route was too narrow, and light and heavy rail should remain parallel and duplicated to the airport.

* The current coastal route would cost $4.7 billion compared to $2.6 billion for the alternative going west.

• Going along the Gold Coast Highway would not maximise a central corridor catering for 800m walk up either side for “value uplift”.

• The land development parcels along the coast were traditionally small blocks requiring amalgamation and would result in poor quality urban design outcomes.

• Coastal community feared a change in character resulting from height and density.

• The impact from a community, environmental or amenity perspective on the proposed alignment or any alternatives had not been explored.

“If a true business case and public consultation is to be undertaken then alternative routes need to be discussed publicly and reasons given for the dismissal of alternative routes,” Mr Follent told the minister’s department.

Burleigh MP Michael Hart posted about the alternative tram route on his Facebook page, saying “it’s so important to have all options on the table”.

Mr Bailey’s office confirmed a 12-week consultation program, which would include the opening of a shopfront at Palm Beach where residents could discuss the project proposal, would start next year.

The department maintained the Gold Coast Highway route had the greatest potential for mode shift to public transport as it was close to where people already lived and followed the alignment of the existing frequent trunk bus route.

“If the light rail went down the M1 corridor there would be insufficient room for heavy rail. Furthermore, buses would still be required on the Gold Coast Highway to cater for the existing and future demand,” advice to the department said.

“As the population continues to grow, the Gold Coast Highway would become busier and buses would become less reliable. Additional public transport investment would be required along the Gold Coast Highway, possibly in the form of bus lanes.

“Dedicated bus lanes would likely take up the same amount of Gold Coast Highway road space as light rail but not perform at the same level of service.”

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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2020, 09:54:03 AM »
The current coastal route is in no way going to cost $4.7b

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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2020, 10:07:22 AM »
And where does their $2.6 billion figure come from?

Gold Coast Bulletin --> New southern Gold Coast light rail route to run west of Burleigh, joining heavy rail and missing Palm Beach

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light and heavy rail should remain parallel and duplicated to the airport.

Should someone tell them that's not how efficient or effective public transport works?
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2020, 02:33:57 PM »
I'm not even going to bother.  Lunacy.
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2020, 05:41:18 PM »
Eh, if it's going to get stuck in NIMBY hell, bring it inland from Burleigh to 'close the loop' with heavy rail but then stop. The light rail can be extended south from Burleigh when residents wake up, and the east-west link is needed anyway.

Running light rail along the M1 is obviously ridiculous, so it shouldn't continue further south on that corridor. And once we get that far south, overall connectivity is more important than servicing the small and frankly backwards communities right along the GC highway.

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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2020, 12:39:48 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> AECOM director of cities Tim O’Loan says light rail extension critical for prosperous Gold Coast on back of COVID-19 recession

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A GOVERNMENT adviser and urban designer says finishing the light rail is a critical step in the Gold Coast’s economic recovery from the devastating coronavirus recession.

AECOM director of cities Tim O’Loan also believes the city cannot rest on its laurels and must avoid an over-reliance on tourism and construction.

Mr O’Loan, who spoke at a recent Gold Coast City Building Seminar, said “it’s incredibly important” the controversial light rail connects to Gold Coast Airport as soon as possible.

“Every time a city grows in any particular aspect there’s going to be growing pains. There’s a compromise,” Mr O’Loan said.

“Things aren’t going to stand still. Really, there needs to be more of a groundswell of the entrepreneurial spirit that started the Gold Coast.

“Developing sophisticated cities is going to p%ss people off. It’s going to possibly disenfranchise.”

Mr O’Loan warned communities must be properly informed and consulted to make sure everyone is on board.

“The trick is, these conversations (about growth) are going to be more numerous and it’s really about how engaged people feel,” he said.

“If people don’t like what’s going on they have to be able to talk through that and perhaps do something about it.”

Consultation on the Burleigh to Coolangatta light rail extension is due to be held over 12 weeks next year.
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« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2020, 01:03:14 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast development: Towers planned for Palm Beach light rail route

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TENS of millions of dollars worth of residential towers are set to rise along the future light rail route through central Palm Beach.

Developers have put forward a range of new projects for the suburb this year, with most centred on the expected tram route along the Gold Coast Highway.

Stage 4 is in the planning stages, with community consultation to launch next year on the link, which will run from Burleigh Heads to Coolangatta via Gold Coast Airport.

With the tram’s future solidifying, developers have flocked to the southern suburb, filing plans for towers close to the beachfront and the future tram stops.

These are the developers who have plans for Palm Beach:

GRASSY KNOLL PROJECTS

A DEVELOPER wants to transform a suburban Palm Beach street into the city’s newest mid-rise tower.

Grassy Knoll Projects has put forward plans for an eight-storey tower on a 2405 sqm site on Mawarra St.

DAYVIEW HOLDINGS

A BEACHFRONT site just metres away from the sand will be transformed into a new tower with million dollar views of Palm Beach.

Developer Dayview Holdings has unveiled plans for Aurora, a nine-storey medium-rise building which is earmarked for an 818 sqm site on the corner of Gold Coast Highway and Thirteenth Ave fronting onto Jefferson Lane.

CRU COLLECTIVE

A SUBURBAN shopping centre in Palm Beach will be transformed into a $50 million tower.

Developer Cru Collective plans to demolish the Palm Gardens shopping centre at the intersection of Mawarra Ave and Townson St and replace it with a nine-storey boutique unit complex.

The project will be lodged with council this morning and will include a 400sq m shopping centre on its ground level, with room for seven tenants.

RAYMOND GRAEME WILKIE

A BEACHSIDE site just a handful of metres from the expected Palm Beach light rail corridor will be transformed into a new luxury nine-storey tower.

Plans have been lodged with the Gold Coast City Council for the unnamed tower by Raymond Graeme Wilkie.

Earmarked for a 1110sq m Jefferson Lane site, the tower will feature seven three bedroom units and a single two-bedroom apartment.

LGOC ADAMSTOWN

A PAIR of ageing houses in central Palm Beach are to be demolished to make way for a new residential tower.

Developer LGOC Adamstown has filed plans for the tower to front Jefferson Lane and the Gold Coast Hwy.

It will have a total of 33 apartments and 82 bedrooms, including 17 two-bedroom units and 16 three-bedroom units.

MADRINA

AN older two-storey unit block in central Palm Beach will be demolished and replaced with a luxury tower.

Developer Madrina wants to build a six-storey apartment building on a 412sq m site along the proposed light rail route.

The tower, which will sit between the Gold Coast Hwy and Jefferson Lane, will feature five three-bedroom units with views of the ocean.
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« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2020, 01:06:14 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast light rail: Contracts awarded for $709m Broadbeach to Burleigh tram extension as council seeks land use planner

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GOLD Coast City Council is offering a more than $109,000 salary to head up planning for the next stage of the light rail.

Council is seeking a principal land use planner for light rail stage four, with a $109k-122k salary up for grabs for the “high priority, high profile” project.

Contracts have now been awarded for the $709 million Broadbeach to Burleigh stretch of the tram route – stage 3’s major construction is now imminent.

The job opening warns the project will attract “media, community and political scrutiny”.

“This requires a planned focus on ensuring that outcomes maximise the opportunity to enhance the corridor and benefit from the construction of the light rail,” the offer reads.

Responsibilities listed for the position include:

Developing a land use planning strategy to be incorporated into the business case for the project
Liaising with stakeholders including city officers, state government representatives and community groups to develop land use outcomes
Developing existing and future land use and economic planning outcomes
Providing advice on existing land use planning outcomes and integration of future City Plan amendments consistent with the overall project outcomes
Applicants require a bachelor degree of land use planning or equivalent knowledge, as well as “interpersonal, written and verbal communication skills”.

The official salary for the fixed-term position – set to end June 2021 – is $109,060.48 to $122,903.84.

A City spokeswoman said early planning for stage four was currently underway.

“As part of this, the City will be investigating the viability of options for stage four of the project,” she said.

“Decisions are yet to be made regarding further resourcing requirements.”
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« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2020, 04:21:57 PM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast development: Towers planned for Palm Beach light rail route

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PALM Beach residents say they are “dismayed” by plans for a “concrete jungle” of towers through their suburb along the future route of the light rail.

Tens of millions of dollars worth of residential towers are set to rise along the future light rail route through central Palm Beach.

Developers have put forward a range of new projects for the suburb this year, with most centred on the expected tram route along the Gold Coast Highway.

Stage 4 is in the planning stages, with community consultation to launch next year on the link, which will run from Burleigh Heads to Coolangatta via Gold Coast Airport.

With the tram’s future solidifying, developers have flocked to the southern suburb, filing plans for towers close to the beachfront and the future tram stops.

But Bulletin readers have reacted with fury, expression fears of a “concrete jungle” in their suburb.

Community Alliance Association president John Hicks said in a letter to the editor that many Palm Beach residents would be “dismayed” by the planned developments.

“The prediction that Palm Beach will end up as a canyon of high/medium rise buildings is coming to pass because of the cumulative effect of overdevelopment approvals,” he said.

“Council must do a better job of managing city growth and urban renewal as our population increases by 50 per cent over the next 20 years. This is a huge transition for the city to navigate.

“Managed properly the Gold Coast can become a leafy, inviting, world class, subtropical city – a gardens by-the-sea outcome.

“Managed poorly and we risk creating an unattractive Gotham by-the-sea outcome. Community Alliance is concerned the latter is the trajectory we are on.” ...

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« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2020, 05:47:09 PM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast development: Towers planned for Palm Beach light rail route

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“Council must do a better job of managing city growth and urban renewal

There is not better place to do this than along a mass transit corridor.

Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast development: Towers planned for Palm Beach light rail route

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as our population increases by 50 per cent over the next 20 years.

Aside from the fact that is a completely wrong statistic, most of the growth will actually be occurring in the northern suburbs.
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« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2020, 10:57:30 PM »
Apparently Coolangatta is earmarked to become a new South Qld city

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« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2020, 07:43:48 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Wayne ‘Rabbit’ Bartholomew claims ‘too late’ to stop Palm Beach light rail, takes aim at Burleigh MP Michael Hart

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WAYNE “Rabbit” Bartholomew claims it’s “too late” to stop light rail heading to Palm Beach and has taken aim at Burleigh MP Michael Hart.

The Gold Coast’s celebrity Labor candidate is running against Mr Hart in Burleigh, putting the electorate into play as a seat to watch come the October 31 election day.

Mr Hart’s chances may have been boosted by winning the Palm Beach protest vote, supporting research which would sent the tram route west then south along the M1 heavy rail corridor.

But on the eve of his official campaign launch Mr Bartholomew has now claimed Mr Hart let the light rail project “leave the station”.

In an exclusive interview with the Bulletin on the eve of his Saturday night campaign launch, Mr Bartholomew said: “My position on the light rail is based on fact.

“It is too late to stop light rail from Broadbeach to Burleigh. This is a fact.

“The train has left the station on the sitting member’s watch, with his full support, in fact, for the past eight years or more.

“And yes, it has been fast-tracked - after his Federal LNP colleagues agreed to fund their share.

“It is inevitable the light and heavy rail will link our city to its airport but here’s another fact. It doesn’t matter what I, or any other lone voter, think about Stage 4.

“Our community’s voice must be heard and decisions about Stage 4 must be based in fact.”

Mr Bartholomew said he and Currumbin Labor candidate Kaylee Campradt had been fighting hard to ensure a rollout of an exhaustive, improved consultation process before the business case on stage 4 of light rail to the airport.

“And we’ll continue that fight whether we are elected or not. Our electorate’s sacred Indigenous and natural assets, fauna and flora, parks, beaches and waterways must not be diminished,” he said.

The former world champion surfer is officially launching his campaign to a crowd of supporters and fellow former surf greats on Saturday night.

LNP frontbencher Michael Hart, who has held the seat since 2012, sits on a margin of 4.85 per cent but is still favoured by Sportsbet at $1.40 to win.

The Bulletin will be seeking a response from Mr Hart.

Mr Bartholomew’s candidacy has not been without its share of controversy.

Former Burleigh MP and State Labor stalwart Christine Smith sensationally quit the party in protest of an alleged “captain’s call” to install him as a celebrity candidate.

The 30-year-party veteran sent a shock letter of resignation to ALP headquarters, taking aim at party bosses for ignoring long-serving branch members.

“I am disgusted at the way a candidate was thrust upon the Burleigh branch without even a personal explanation or discussion,” she wrote in the letter, obtained by the Gold Coast Bulletin.

“A candidate who was admitted as a member of the ALP on Monday 10 August and endorsed as the candidate for Burleigh on the same night.”

Labor has already devoted significant resources to the Burleigh campaign in an effort to wrestle it back from LNP MP Hart.

Mr Hart has held on through recent elections while his opposition put little effort into reclaiming the seat, but both parties are expected to concentrate their firepower on the electorate this time around.

The Queensland election will be held on October 31. Prepoll voting will open October 19.
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« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2020, 04:07:32 PM »
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/next-step-in-tweed-light-rail-connection-plan-revealed/news-story/eb4feeb58afdef882441afd9958ca06f

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PLANS to build a light rail track across the state border are underway.

The NSW Government has today approved $1 million in funding for a study into a light rail connection in Tweed Heads.

The connection to the Gold Coast light rail is expected to be built following the construction of the extension to Gold Coast Airport.

NSW Minister Regional Transport and Roads Paul Toole said the study comes after the NSW and Queensland governments signed a Memorandum of Understanding earlier this year to assess the cross-border region’s needs and build a stronger public transport offering.

“The study will see NSW identify a suitable five-kilometre corridor for a future light rail extension from Coolangatta to the Tweed, while Queensland will investigate the corridor to the north,” Minister Toole said.

Member for Tweed Geoff Provest said the study would focus on various ways of connecting the Tweed and Gold Coast, including the airport and university.

“This area is a global gateway, with about 30,000 daily cross-border commuter trips between Tweed Shire and Gold Coast occurring every day before COVID-19 restrictions came into place,” Mr Provest said.

“We know we’ll see those numbers again when border closures lift, so it’s important we look at ways now to help make public transport a first-choice option for people in the region by exploring our options.

“The study will also look at how other forms of transport, including buses, cycling and walking could be integrated and improved if the Gold Coast light rail is extended south of the Queensland border.

The Queensland Government released an Expression of Interest in August for a consultant to carry out the Tugun to Tweed Multimodal Corridor study. Transport for NSW is using the short-listed consultants from the EOI as the basis for a Request for Tender as part of the joint study approach.

The successful tenderer will be announced later this year.


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A LIGHT-RAIL, connecting the Tweed to the Gold Coast, will have a business plan developed.

The 2019 NSW state budget was handed down this afternoon from treasurer Dominic Perrottet, with $1 million set aside to develop a concept plan over the next 12 months to have a light-rail network connect Tweed Heads South to Coolangatta.

Negotiations with the Queensland and NSW governments and the Gold Coast Airport will continue according to Tweed MP Geoff Provest, who said this was an important project for the region.

"Honestly the light-rail is going to be a real game changer for the Tweed," Mr Provest said.

"Hopefully we will be in a position to finish off our business case from this."

Mr Provest said it was vital the Tweed is able to connect its public transport to the Gold Coast, particularly the Gold Coast Airport.

"Once this gets to the airport, it makes us a regional transport hub," he said.

The announcement has been welcomed north of the border, with the CEO of Queensland Airports Limited hailing the news as a win for the region.

Chris Mills said linkages to the airport from both Queensland and NSW would have major benefits for a range of organisations including the airport itself, businesses based in the airport precinct and organisations like Southern Cross University.

"Light rail is a priority project for the Gold Coast and northern NSW, which we want to see delivered as soon as possible," he said.

Tweed bus services are also set to be rejuvenated, with an extra 330 services across the electorate promised from this budget.

Mr Provest said a study over the last 18 months highlighted hotspots which these new services will focus on.
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« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2020, 04:42:44 PM »
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« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2020, 07:01:07 PM »
It's good that the Tweed Heads side now has funding and is steaming ahead. Probably be finished way before LRT reaches the Airport from Qld side.

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« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2020, 08:46:05 PM »
I note with great interest the map seems to show them using the old railway cutting behind Kirra which is currently a walking path.
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2020, 10:14:38 PM »
It's good that the Tweed Heads side now has funding and is steaming ahead. Probably be finished way before LRT reaches the Airport from Qld side.

What makes you say that? Stage 4 planning was already underway

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« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2020, 04:09:27 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast light rail Stage 4: Planning continues on tram extension to airport $

Planning continues on the light rail’s southern route as it is named one of the major projects set to lift the Gold Coast out of the COVID-19 downturn.
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2021, 12:54:27 AM »
https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2020/1207-2020.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 1207

Asked on 3 December 2020

MR M HART ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:

Will the Minister commit to releasing in full the findings of the multi-modal transport study between
Burleigh and Tugun, to allow for a proper and thorough community consultation process on the
Gold Coast Light Rail Stage 4, and if so, advise by what date this entire report will be made
available?

ANSWER:

I thank the Member for Burleigh for the question.

The Palaszczuk Government is committed to planning for the future transport needs of the
Southern Gold Coast as the population continues to grow.

The multi-modal corridor study, between Burleigh Heads and Tugun, along the Gold Coast
Highway provides for the future needs of all modes of transport. The purpose of the study was to
confirm the long-term strategic direction for the Gold Coast Highway Corridor from Burleigh
Heads to Tugun, and specifically considered how to accommodate for vehicle traffic, pedestrian
movements, bike riders, and the possible extension of light rail south of Burleigh Heads along the
southern Gold Coast Highway.

A detailed summary of the study’s findings is available on the Department of Transport and Main
Roads website at https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/Gold-Coast-Highway-Burleigh-Heads-toTugun-Multi-modal-Corridor-Study
In relation to the Member’s comments regarding proper and thorough community consultation,
the government acknowledges it is important to listen to and capture the varying views shared by
residents on the light rail.

I note the Member was crystal clear when he told ABC Radio to 'forget heavy rail to the airport'.
The Member has regularly made his views on light rail clear, stating there was not enough room
for both light and heavy rail along the heavy rail corridor to the airport, and that the Member's
preference was for light rail to take over the heavy rail corridor to the airport.

This confirmation that a heavy rail link to the airport would never happen under the LNP would
be a disaster for the southern Gold Coast as it grows.
The LNP’s preferred light rail route to the airport of a long, slow indirect and more expensive
inland route through an industrial area taking over the heavy rail corridor would effectively kill off
heavy rail access to the Gold Coast Airport.

It would be a public transport planning disaster for the Gold Coast.
TMR will undertake comprehensive community consultation in 2021, during which the community
will have the opportunity to ask questions and provide face-to-face feedback. This will include
opening a shopfront in Palm Beach over a 12-week period, a dedicated consultation webpage
and newsletter, as well as a hotline and direct email to stakeholders.

The recently released Queensland Transport and Roads Investment Program 2020–21 to 2023–24
(QTRIP) represents a record investment in road and transport infrastructure for the fifth year in a
row, with $26.9 billion committed over the next four years, supporting an average of approximately
23,600 direct jobs over the life of the program. Approximately $4.562 billion is committed across
TMR’s South Coast Region, which is estimated to support an average of approximately 3800
direct jobs over the life of the program.

QTRIP continues to provide significant funding for the M1 Pacific Motorway projects and the Gold
Coast Light Rail (jointly funded with the Australian Government), including the:

 $1 billion widening to six lanes between Varsity Lakes and Tugun
 $1 billion upgrade between Daisy Hill and the Logan Motorway
 $750 million construction of additional lanes between Eight Mile Plains and Daisy Hill
 $709.9 million Gold Coast Light Rail Stage 3 project between Broadbeach South and
Burleigh Heads (also jointly funded with the City of Gold Coast)
 $110.5 million upgrade of the Exit 49 interchange at Pimpama
 $82.1 million safety and capacity upgrades at Exit 41 interchange at Yatala South
 $25 million upgrade of the Oxenford interchange (Exit 57)
 $20 million upgrade of Exit 45 north off-ramp interchange at Ormeau.

As part of our COVID-19 economic recovery response, in partnership with the Australian
Government, the Palaszczuk Government has announced $1 billion in new and accelerated
funding for road improvements right across Queensland. This funding injection will deliver freight
efficiency benefits, improve road safety, sustain local jobs and lift the state’s economy. Overall,
this $1 billion of investment in road network improvements is estimated to support approximately
1000 jobs.

For years the Gold Coast has been left behind by its LNP representatives. It is only a Palaszczuk
Labor Government that is getting on with the job of building vital infrastructure for the Gold Coast.
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2021, 09:26:55 AM »
^ worthwhile noting that despite there ALP's theoretical support for heavy rail to OOL, the Minister goes on to describe $3 bn on M1 road projects and $0 on heavy rail extension.

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« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2021, 04:56:40 PM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast light rail: Mayor Tom Tate calls for trams to be fast-tracked to the airport and then the border $

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... “From Burleigh Heads to the airport the next bit, then Coolangatta, we’ve done the joint-funding arrangement with the government. So what I want to do, top of the list, there is no long delay between stages.

“So by the time Stage 3 is completed the contract is let, detailed design and consultation is done, you know where the stations are, we keep going.”

Cr Tate admitted he had “stirred a few people up” with his suggestion that if Palm Beach protesters opposed the tram, it would run express to Tugun.

He said Transport Minister Mark Bailey had contacted him and said “what the hell is that”.

Cr Tate told him his reasoning for the provocative remark was seeking a response from the silent majority of voters who supported the trams.

The Mayor said it was important to have consultation to ensure the tram stop was in the right location to generate business for retail operators. ...

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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2021, 09:27:14 PM »
Absolutely.

Don't like tram? No station for you!

And if they later want one built, put it on their rates bill.
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2021, 10:08:29 AM »
Yeah, nah.

More or less everywhere up and down the Gold Coast Highway between Southport and Tweed Heads is a destination in its own right.  I want people to be able to travel up and down freely.

Tate was just lampooning the local NIMBYs, he's good at it.
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« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2021, 01:18:55 PM »
Is there anywhere that shows the proposed stop locations in Palm Beach?

I'd think you'd need 3 or maybe even 4:
  • One between Tallebudgera creek and Tallebudgera Drive
  • One around 19th Ave
  • One around Palm Beach Ave
  • Maybe one near Thrower Dr?
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« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2021, 02:44:11 PM »
I think that's correct in terms of logical stop locations that work with popular destinations and crossroads , though 19th Ave to Palm Beach Ave is 1.4km so probaby 12th avenue would be the other you'd add.


Beyond that would be Currumbin sanctuary, Tugun Shops, Kitchener St, Kirribin St, Airport

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« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2021, 03:32:49 PM »
I think there is a decent case for the thing going non-stop from the Airport to Toolona St, then Currumbin Sanctuary, then Thrower Drive - all down the highway median.  You are going to have to run  buses of some kind between the border and The Pines to cover the areas not served by the light rail corridor (Kirra through Marine Pde, Tugun Heights, John Flynn, Currumbin Beach, Bob Ell's development just over the border at Cobaki etc).  Why not just give the tram an express run of about 3.5km and get the local buses covering the fairly limited patronage potential between Tugun and the Airport?
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« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2021, 03:55:31 PM »
I don't mind another intermediate stop, yeah It'll be another Parkwood east, but I'm comfortable with that.

If they don't go all the way to the border on this stage, presumably the 760 goes HF, and perhaps a short working between OOL and the border ("new" 700), or alternatively the 768 routed via OOL

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« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2021, 04:07:14 PM »
How fast would an airport express bus be just stopping at the main centres vs the tram?
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« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2021, 05:34:03 PM »
^ Faster.  Undoubtedly.

Some planning guy is on Facebook rabbiting on about how the project isn't worth doing because the 777 is faster, conveniently ignoring that the 777 only carries about 20-25% of the patronage and the vast majority use the all stops routes which are slower (and this replaces everything).

The issue becomes "express to where?" to an extent.  It's not like there's a CBD connection to implement the way there is in Brisbane.  Some people can literally walk from the airport to where they are staying, others could be going to Paradise Point.  There's accommodation and trip attractors literally everywhere in between, and that's only along the coastline.  I think the 777 if anything is probably too slow for what it should be.

If you were going to have an express, it should be a super express.  I'd be thinking something like Airport - Burleigh - Broadbeach - Surfers - Southport and that's it.  Even with that I expect most people would still get on a tram.
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« Reply #77 on: March 08, 2021, 12:56:52 AM »
Gold Coast Bulletin --> Gold Coast light rail: Palm Beach tram extension construction could begin earlier than expected $

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THE Queensland Government is rushing to clear roadblocks to fast-track construction of the light rail’s Burleigh Heads-to-the-southern border extension as early as 2023.

Light rail stage 4, which will run down the coastal strip through Palm Beach to Coolangatta via Gold Coast Airport, is expected to be one of the critical transport projects supporting the southeast Queensland bid for the 2032 Olympic Games.

Now, a year after unveiling the project, Transport Minister Mark Bailey said the government was rapidly ticking off the boxes needed before funding could be secured, including confirming the final route and performing community consultation.

“The race however isn’t finished yet for Queensland to host a 2032 Olympic Games and there’s still plenty of legwork that needs to be done, including identifying what projects would be required to support a games bid,” he said.

“Light rail will give people more options to travel, and as council has reported we have already seen it cut traffic, with a 47 per cent reduction in traffic on Scarborough Street at Southport and increased pedestrian movement to Pacific Fair Shopping Centre by 180 per cent. ...

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« Reply #78 on: March 09, 2021, 09:10:47 AM »
https://twitter.com/RailExpressNews/status/1369062888854327297
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Re: Gold Coast light rail - Stage 4
« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2021, 10:04:04 PM »
Gold Coast LRT stage 4



https://youtu.be/ExIsPejwq8Y


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