New Green Bridges Brisbane

[verbatim9]

Hey Grace Grace is the sitting MP of  Mcconnel. (formerly Brisbane Central). There has been no statement from her office supporting the project either. Very poor local representative I reckon. More of a career politician.

[verbatim9]

There are calls for Brisbane City Council to consider converting a proposed pedestrian bridge for West End to cater for cars. @ShannonMM9 #9News https://t.co/8bpbCJM9jY


https://twitter.com/9NewsQueensland/status/1175327828117573633

[verbatim9]

There are calls for Brisbane City Council to consider converting a proposed pedestrian bridge for West End to cater for cars. @ShannonMM9 #9News https://t.co/8bpbCJM9jY


https://twitter.com/9NewsQueensland/status/1175327828117573633

^^The proposed  Toowong to West End bridge should only be for pedestrians, cyclists and public transport.

[achiruel]

I wouldn't object to emergency vehicles (police, fire, ambulance) being permitted to use the bridge if it is designed to take buses; provided of course there's suitable infrastructure at the other end for them to go somewhere. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure UQ Lakes doesn't connect with the road network within UQ.

[verbatim9]

I wouldn't object to emergency vehicles (police, fire, ambulance) being permitted to use the bridge if it is designed to take buses; provided of course there's suitable infrastructure at the other end for them to go somewhere. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure UQ Lakes doesn't connect with the road network within UQ.

^^Emergency vehicles is a reasonable request

[Golliwog]

Correct the UQ Lakes green bridges doesn't connect to the local road network - but a Toowong to West End green bridge wouldn't have a stubborn university blocking such a connection.

I'd argue a few of these proposed pedestrian green bridges should be investigated for potential bus / public transport usage as well. Didn't there used to be a proposed for a combined Kangaroo Point - Alice St bridge, plus a Kangaroo Point to Merthyr Rd bridge to connect the peninsula both ways, plus allow for a faster connection to the CBD from New Farm?

[OzGamer]

Emergency vehicles is a reasonable request

Emergency vehicles are already allowed on busways, so I would imagine that would be the case for the proposed bridges. I suspect emergency vehicles are already allowed on the Eleanor Schonell Bridge, but it is probably not particularly useful for them.

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Potential landing points for Brisbane's green bridges revealed

PROPOSED alignments for five new Brisbane green bridges will today be unveiled as the council forges ahead with its half-billion-dollar river crossing plan.

The Sunday Mail can reveal the proposed Toowoong bridge will likely take off from Archer St, near the former ABC studio site, and link with Orleigh Park at West End.

Another bridge from West End is set to launch from Boundary St and link to Keith St at St Lucia.

Both of the bridges, as well as another proposed crossing that would link Weekes Road at Bellbowrie to Grindle Road at Wacol, are set to cater for buses, pedestrians and cyclists.

The council has also proposed that its Breakfast Creek Bridge take off at Kingsford Smith Dr at Albion and land at Breakfast Creek Rd at Newstead.

Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner said all of the proposals will now be subject to community consultation, which will kick off on Monday before wrapping up on December 6.

"We know Brisbane is a great place to live, work and relax and these bridges are critical infrastructure to ensure as Brisbane grows, we remain a well-connected city," he said.

"I am now handing the planning over the people of Brisbane as we want to hear the community's thoughts on the proposed alignment of the bridges."

It has previously been revealed that the Kangaroo Point Bridge will likely link Scott St to the Alice and Edward St roundabout near the City Botanic Gardens.

A preliminary business case for the bridge found that the project would result in 83,950 fewer car trips on river crossings each year.

All five bridges are expected to cost $550 million, with ratepayers to stump up two-thirds of the cash and the council to seek the rest from the State and Federal Governments.

"I want residents to have more choice when it comes to travel and I'm looking forward to hearing their feedback on our plans," Cr Schrinner said.

"I encourage everyone to have their say on the possible bridge design and alignments and help us plan these exciting new connections that will make Brisbane better connected and easier to get around."

FIVE NEW GREEN BRIDGES

* Kangaroo Point Bridge (pedestrian/cycling) – Alice/Edward Street roundabout near the City Botanic Gardens, to Scott Street at Kangaroo Point

* Toowong to West End Bridge (pedestrian/cycling/public transport) – Near Archer Street in Toowong to Orleigh Park near Forbes Street in West End

* St Lucia to West End Bridge (pedestrian/cycling/public transport) – Keith Street in St Lucia to Boundary Street at West End

* Breakfast Creek Bridge (pedestrian/cycling) – Kingsford Smith Drive at Albion to Breakfast Creek Road at Newstead

* Bellbowrie Bridge (pedestrian/cycling/public transport/emergency vehicle) – River end of Weekes Road at Bellbowrie to Grindle Road at Wacol

[verbatim9]

Couriermail --> Potential landing points for Brisbane's green bridges revealed

PROPOSED alignments for five new Brisbane green bridges will today be unveiled as the council forges ahead with its half-billion-dollar river crossing plan.

The Sunday Mail can reveal the proposed Toowoong bridge will likely take off from Archer St, near the former ABC studio site, and link with Orleigh Park at West End.

Another bridge from West End is set to launch from Boundary St and link to Keith St at St Lucia.

Both of the bridges, as well as another proposed crossing that would link Weekes Road at Bellbowrie to Grindle Road at Wacol, are set to cater for buses, pedestrians and cyclists.

The council has also proposed that its Breakfast Creek Bridge take off at Kingsford Smith Dr at Albion and land at Breakfast Creek Rd at Newstead.

Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner said all of the proposals will now be subject to community consultation, which will kick off on Monday before wrapping up on December 6.

"We know Brisbane is a great place to live, work and relax and these bridges are critical infrastructure to ensure as Brisbane grows, we remain a well-connected city," he said.

"I am now handing the planning over the people of Brisbane as we want to hear the community's thoughts on the proposed alignment of the bridges."

It has previously been revealed that the Kangaroo Point Bridge will likely link Scott St to the Alice and Edward St roundabout near the City Botanic Gardens.

A preliminary business case for the bridge found that the project would result in 83,950 fewer car trips on river crossings each year.

All five bridges are expected to cost $550 million, with ratepayers to stump up two-thirds of the cash and the council to seek the rest from the State and Federal Governments.

"I want residents to have more choice when it comes to travel and I'm looking forward to hearing their feedback on our plans," Cr Schrinner said.

"I encourage everyone to have their say on the possible bridge design and alignments and help us plan these exciting new connections that will make Brisbane better connected and easier to get around."

FIVE NEW GREEN BRIDGES

* Kangaroo Point Bridge (pedestrian/cycling) – Alice/Edward Street roundabout near the City Botanic Gardens, to Scott Street at Kangaroo Point

* Toowong to West End Bridge (pedestrian/cycling/public transport) – Near Archer Street in Toowong to Orleigh Park near Forbes Street in West End

* St Lucia to West End Bridge (pedestrian/cycling/public transport) – Keith Street in St Lucia to Boundary Street at West End

* Breakfast Creek Bridge (pedestrian/cycling) – Kingsford Smith Drive at Albion to Breakfast Creek Road at Newstead

* Bellbowrie Bridge (pedestrian/cycling/public transport/emergency vehicle) – River end of Weekes Road at Bellbowrie to Grindle Road at Wacol

Good to see this progressing. It will be good for Brisbane to reduce overall trip travel.times by bike, walking and Public Transport.

[Cazza]

What have they done with Bellbowrie?!?! That's a ridiculous idea. The only thing that will achieve is having slightly quicker travel times to a train station. But even then, most people would prefer to get a train from Darra (more services to/from the city, plus able to get trains to both Springfield and Ipswich, rather than just Ipswich from Wacol).

Can we please push hard for them to move the bridge to between Booker Pl Park or Sugarwood St and Sumners Rd? This bridge will then allow for future BUZ services to Centenary to potentially be extended to Bellbowrie/Moggill, meaning you don't need 4bph+ wasted along Moggill Rd between here and Kenmore.

Also, if they made the West End bridge across the river between the 2 ferry stops, they would be able to take one away (preferably Guyatt Park), meaning quicker trips for both CityCat passengers and commuters crossing the river. Boundary St seems like an unusual landing point as accessing the West End ferry and Dornoch Tce is a bit more challenging for buses.

Other than that, I'm pretty happy with the others.

[ozbob]

" ... Can we please push hard for them to move the bridge to between Booker Pl Park or Sugarwood St and Sumners Rd? This bridge will then allow for future BUZ services to Centenary to potentially be extended to Bellbowrie/Moggill, meaning you don't need 4bph+ wasted along Moggill Rd between here and Kenmore. ... "

Not sure why they are not doing that.  I thought that was the preferred option.  There is going to be consultation. 

https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/node/1002356

If  you want to draft up some paragraphs, we can do something.

... The proposed alignment has been identified extending from the river end of Weekes Road in Bellbowrie to Grindle Road in Wacol.

The preferred alignment is not final and is subject to further investigations and community and stakeholder feedback.

Feedback from the community and stakeholders will play a critical role in further defining the project's benefits, including the bridge's final alignment, landing locations and design treatments. ...

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Have your say on the five green bridges proposed for Brisbane

Five new bridges promised for Brisbane will be a 'dog's breakfast' if the council's signature infrastructure project on Kingsford Smith Drive was a sign of what was to come, Labor claims.

On Sunday, lord mayor Adrian Schrinner revealed proposed landing points for five new green bridges he has promised across the city and opened public consulation on the projects.

The announcement comes as the Kingsford Smith Drive upgrades, a flagship project for the LNP administration, has been delayed by a year, blown out by at least $47 million and left businesses struggling to make ends meet.

Labor's mayoral candidate Pat Condren said Cr Schrinner had made an "absolute dog's breakfast" of Kingsford Smith Drive and could not be trusted to manage large infrastructure projects.

"Can you imagine what would happen if this bloke tried to build five bridges?" he said.

"Tell him he's dreaming."

Cr Schrinner said the new bridges would come with price tag of more than $550 million and were needed to tackle congestion.

A pedestrian and cycle bridge at Kangaroo Point to the CBD already has a business case completed.

Two West End bridges, one from Toowong to West End and the other from St Lucia to West End, will be for pedestrians, cyclists and public transport.

A pedestrian and cycle bridge connecting Kingsford Smith Drive Riverwalk into the existing riverwalk network will be constructed at Breakfast Creek.

And a final bridge at Belbowrie to Wacol is tapped as a potential pedestrian, cycling and public transport bridge with emergency access to alleviate flood risk in the area.

Cr Schrinner said Brisbane had more than 2.2 million residents and 1300 people moved to the city each month.

"The business case for the first bridge, a pedestrian bridge connecting Kangaroo Point to the CBD, outlined that the bridge would result in 83,950 fewer car trips using river crossings each year," he said.

Cr Schrinner said community consultation would run from November 11 to December 6 and would include 12 information sessions.

"My very first act as lord mayor was to announce this plan and I am now handing the planning over the people of Brisbane as we want to hear the community's thoughts on the proposed alignment of the bridges," he said.

"The community is crucial in the planning and delivery of these five bridges, as this infrastructure will transform the way residents and visitors get around Brisbane.

Landing points for proposed bridges

Kangaroo Point Bridge - Pedestrian/cycle bridge.

Alice/Edward Street roundabout near the City Botanic Gardens, to Scott Street at Kangaroo Point


Toowong to West End Bridge – potential pedestrian/cycle/public transport bridge.

Near Archer Street in Toowong to Orleigh Park near Forbes Street in West End


St Lucia to West End Bridge – potential pedestrian/cycle/public transport bridge

Keith Street in St Lucia to Boundary Street at West End.


Breakfast Creek Bridge – Pedestrian/cycle bridge

Kingsford Smith Drive at Albion to Breakfast Creek Road at Newstead


Bellbowrie Bridge – potential pedestrian/cycle/public transport bridge, emergency access.

River end of Weekes Road at Bellbowrie to Grindle Road at Wacol

[aldonius]

I agree that the Westside bridge should connect to Summers Rd but I am less convinced about the Centenary BUZ argument in the absence of a network plan - it's tricky to serve Bellbowrie, Darra and Jindalee all with the one route!

[ozbob]

I think going into Darra rail station is a very persuasive argument.  Frequency, journey options.  Wacol is the not the best option.

" .. The Bellbowrie green bridge will connect Bellbowrie and Moggill residents to walking and cycling options and public transport services on the eastern side of the river, including rail services at Wacol and Darra. The bridge will also improve emergency access for Moggill and Bellbowrie during major flood events. .. "

https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/node/1002356

Also Grindle joins Wacol Station Road which is an almighty traffic congestion cluster-fuk.  Buses would be stuck for ages.   It is a serious local congestion problem.   If grade separation had been done 10 years ago when it should have been, maybe.

I think they have just picked out places with the least amount of NIMBY resistance ...   

[verbatim9]

I am impartial but Wacol to Weekes Road does make sense for urban renewal and a new public transport route that feeds both Wacol and Darra. There is a potential for a new bikeway connecting all the way from Bellbowrie and Moggill through to Wacol and Darra. The main aim is that a bridge gets built over the next 4 years.

[verbatim9]

You're being given the chance to weigh in on Brisbane's bold bridge plan, taking 83 thousand cars off our congested roads. @BenStivala9 #9News https://t.co/xAgttNmcw3

https://twitter.com/9NewsQueensland/status/1193447904301572096

[#Metro]

Thoughts

Toowong to West End Bridge – potential pedestrian/cycle/public transport bridge. (Neutral)

St Lucia to West End Bridge – potential pedestrian/cycle/public transport bridge (No)

Keith Street in St Lucia to Boundary Street at West End. (No)

Breakfast Creek Bridge – Pedestrian/cycle bridge. (No opinion)

Kingsford Smith Drive at Albion to Breakfast Creek Road at Newstead (No opinion)

Bellbowrie Bridge – potential pedestrian/cycle/public transport bridge, emergency access.

River end of Weekes Road at Bellbowrie to Grindle Road at Wacol <--- YES but multiple locations should be looked at.

This will force re-arrangement of the Centenary local bus network

[aldonius]

The big thing we need to push with all these bridges is that high-quality bus services will need to be run over them, otherwise they're useless.

The interesting thing about the St Lucia bridge is that for it to be actually utilised, at least one HF service will need to run the length of Boundary St in West End.

Logically the West End-UQ service would be a rerouted 199. The trouble is that 20% of the 199's northbound boardings occur at or south of Vulture/Cambridge, and frequent service to that segment would be lost by putting the 199 on Boundary all the way.

However, a solution may exist. I think there's a lot of potential for a route via the Toowong bridge that's a cross-town route via Vulture St, and since the Toowong bridge comes in so far south, that route could take over the 199's route south of Vulture St as the 199 shifts onto Boundary and thence to UQ.


The other interesting thing is that according to Michael Berkman's survey of what should happen with the ex-ABC site at Toowong, there's support much more for a bike/pedestrian only bridge.

[aldonius]

Big Update: the Courier Mail reported that the Toowong bridge would have buses, but Council's marketing materials just say walking and biking.

Michael Berkman's office has sought clarification.

[Gazza]

Thoughts
Keith Street in St Lucia to Boundary Street at West End. (No)

What's wrong with this one? Would allow a good BUZ from UQ, down boundary street, through the city, then down James St to the powerhouse.
Obviously if you terminated at the bottom of west end its a nothing destination, but UQ would be a great anchor terminus.

The Green Bridge at Toowong should integrate better access into Toowong station...It's giving West End rail access for the first time basically.

[City Designer]

There is no point putting buses on the two West End bridges. Sending Coronation Drive buses through West End is slower and the 192 gives West End access to UQ.

[Gazza]

Yeah, I think the Toowong Bridge would only be active transport only.


But the 192 is too circuitous so I definitely support a more direct link from Boundary St.

[SurfRail]

There is no point putting buses on the two West End bridges. Sending Coronation Drive buses through West End is slower and the 192 gives West End access to UQ.

The point would be to extend something like the 60 or the 199 somewhere useful on the other side of the river instead of terminating where it encounters the wet stuff.  That enables better and easier connections that don't involve a slow ferry crossing, or a torturously circuitous route to the Elanor Schonell or any of the bridges in the CBD.  Not to simply bypass Coronation Drive. 

[aldonius]

Given the Toowong bridge is bike/walk only, the Coro Drive routes are virtually unaffected.

I agree with Gazza - a James St to UQ via new bridge service would be appropriate. Or perhaps the Exhibition area and RBWH via Brookes St?

[SurfRail]

I'm reticent to go suggesting any particular new routes anywhere in inner Brisbane.  It's just band-aids on top of band-aids without the underlying structure being cut out and replaced properly.  It's one thing to identify a clear and obvious extension (eg pushing over the river from the West End Ferry terminus), but another to go laying another route through Adelaide St on top of the current festering and unmappable mess.

[aldonius]

SurfRail:

Except the proposed bridge location isn't from the ferry terminal. It's from Boundary St, 660 metres to the east. Neither the 199 nor the Glider can usefully serve both locations. Moreover, as I mentioned above, rerouting the 199 to just go down Boundary St impacts about 20% of its patronage.

[SurfRail]

SurfRail:

Except the proposed bridge location isn't from the ferry terminal. It's from Boundary St, 660 metres to the east. Neither the 199 nor the Glider can usefully serve both locations. Moreover, as I mentioned above, rerouting the 199 to just go down Boundary St impacts about 20% of its patronage.

Oh I know.  The prime candidate for that one would be the 60 - you'd just have to get it to stop at Stop 13 in both directions, then over into Toowong and finish up wherever there is room, and preferably with as little interaction with Coro Dr / Moggill Rd as possible.  I don't think there is a particularly compelling reason for it to go to the West End ferry terminal with this option on the table - it just goes there because that's currently the only terminating location available.  They aren't interlined with the 199 and I doubt many people are actually transferring between buses at that stop.

I wouldn't send the 199 to Toowong, and I probably wouldn't send it over the other bridge either (that would be a job for a decent Boundary St route).  The question would be how all of these interact on Adelaide St and with Brisbane "Metro" etc.

Buses into Toowong also gives you other possibilities, like a cross-town route towards the Gabba to replace the current 198 Cooks' tour.

[aldonius]

I'm even more confused now than I was earlier. I've been fine-toothing the available statements from BCC (as in, the ones actually on their website, as opposed to what the media said). The Toowong, St Lucia and Newstead pages all currently say "will cater for pedestrians and cyclists" and don't talk about buses at all.

[verbatim9]

I'm even more confused now than I was earlier. I've been fine-toothing the available statements from BCC (as in, the ones actually on their website, as opposed to what the media said). The Toowong, St Lucia and Newstead pages all currently say "will cater for pedestrians and cyclists" and don't talk about buses at all.

Only the Toowong to West End,  Bellbowrie/Moggill to Wacol and the St Lucia crossing further upstream will cater for PT.

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

14th November 2019

Five new green bridges across Brisbane

RAIL Back On Track strongly supports the construction of more green bridges across the Brisbane River, and calls on all Council candidates to do so as well. (  Five new green bridges across Brisbane  https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/traffic-and-transport/roads-infrastructure-and-bikeways/five-new-green-bridges-across-brisbane ).

A sustainable future means more public and active transport usage. Green bridges are especially useful towards this end, because they make journeys convenient that were previously difficult even by car.

We have had half a century of investment in cars as the dominant form of transport. It's past time to bring public and active transport up to the same standard.

While strongly supporting a green bridge at Bellbowrie, we have concerns about the current proposed alignment. Connecting to Grindle Rd in Wacol has few benefits; the only destination of note is Wacol station, 3km away past farms and prisons. Local traffic congestion at peak in Wacol Station road is significant. We believe that the bridge should instead connect to Sumners Rd in Riverhills, permitting a high-quality bus connection as part of Centenary-area improvements, and direct access to Darra railway station, an important junction station, with a choice of destinations and a much better rail service frequency than Wacol station.

Investment in public-transport infrastructure must be followed through with high-quality services. A bus bridge without buses is little more than sculpture. Council and Council candidates must propose transforming improvements to the bus network that the bridges will enable, and work with TransLink to make it happen.

Similarly, there are missing links of bicycle paths in all the suburbs around the bridges; only by building out this network will the project achieve its full potential.

We encourage all residents to review the proposed green bridges and give direct feedback to Council.

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

( This was sent to GreenBridges@brisbane.qld.gov.au as well ).

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1194694136386838528

[ozbob]

Facebook ..

[ozbob]

Response:

Dear Mr Dow,

Thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback on Brisbane City Council's Green Bridges for Brisbane program.

Community and stakeholder feedback is critical to the development of the proposed Bellbowrie green bridge. All feedback received will play a critical role in further defining the project's benefits, including the bridge's final alignment, landing locations and design treatments.

If you haven't done so already, we encourage you to complete the online survey by 6 December 2019.

You can also have your say in a number of other ways, including by coming along to one of our upcoming community information sessions. For more information about the program and how you can have your say, please visit the Green Bridges for Brisbane web page on Council's website.

If you would like to subscribe to receive project updates, please respond YES to this email.

If you have any more questions in the meantime, please contact the project team on 1800 318 166 or email greenbridges@brisbane.qld.gov.au. For more information outside of business hours, please call Council's 24-hour Contact Centre on 3403 8888.

Kind regards

Green Bridges Project Team | BRISBANE CITY COUNCIL

..................................................................

Phone: 1800 318 166

Email: GreenBridges@brisbane.qld.gov.au

[ozbob]

Couriermail Quest --> Council urged to rethink 'bridge to nowhere' plan

Rail Back on Track has backed the Brisbane City Council's five green bridge plan but spokesman Robert Dow says a rethink is needed on the Bellbowrie-Wacol proposal

With the Brisbane City Council calling for public responses to its proposal for five new green bridges, Rail Back On Track wants the planned Bellbowrie bridge realigned from Wacol to Riverhills.

"It's a bridge to nowhere," Rail Back on Track administrator Robert Dow said.

While he said it was "past time" a substantial investment was made into sustainable river crossings, he advised the council rethink the proposed Bellbowrie-Wacol plan.

"We strongly support the construction of more green bridges across the Brisbane River and call on all council candidates to do so as well, but we have concerns about the alignment of the proposed bridge from Bellbowrie," he said.

The pans have the bridge connecting to Grindle Rd in Wacol, which has few benefits; the only destination of note is the Wacol station, 3km away past farms and prisons, Mr Dow said.

"Local traffic congestion at peak in Wacol Station Road is significant.

"We believe that the bridge should instead connect to Sumners Rd in Riverhills, permitting a high-quality bus connection as part of Centenary-area improvements, and giving direct access to Darra railway station, which is a junction station."

He said investment in public-transport infrastructure must be followed through with high-quality services.

"A bus bridge without buses is little more than sculpture," he said.

The council said its proposed bridges would make journeys convenient that were previously difficult, even by car.

The council has started a long round of community consultation meetings seeking feedback on the $550 million plan.

Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner said he had a vision for a cleaner, greener and more active Brisbane and the new bridges would tackle traffic congestion by improving cross-river public and active transport connections.

"These five bridges will transform Brisbane," he said.

"My very first act as Lord Mayor was to announce this plan and I am now handing the planning over the people of Brisbane as we want to hear the community's thoughts on the proposed alignment of the bridges.

"The business case for the first bridge, a pedestrian bridge connecting Kangaroo Point to the CBD, outlined that the bridge would result in 83,950 fewer car trips using river crossings each year," he said..

Cr Schrinner said community consultation had already started and would run until December 6, giving a variety of ways for people to have their say.

"Feedback can be given face-to-face with the project team at one of the information sessions, via an online survey, or contact the council on its website, or by phone, email or post," he said.

"I want residents to have more choice when it comes to travel and I'm looking forward to hearing their feedback on our plans."

The Brisbane City Council said it would fund at least two-thirds of the project and seek contributions from the State and Federal Government.

DETAILS OF THE FIVE NEW GREEN BRIDGES:

Kangaroo Point Bridge - Pedestrian/cycle

Alice/Edward St roundabout near the City Botanic Gardens, to Scott Street at Kangaroo Point

Toowong to West End Bridge – pedestrian/cycle/public transport

Near Archer Street in Toowong to Orleigh Park near Forbes Street in West End

St Lucia to West End Bridge – pedestrian/cycle/public transport

Keith Street in St Lucia to Boundary Street at West End.

Breakfast Creek Bridge – pedestrian/cycle

Kingsford Smith Drive at Albion to Breakfast Creek Road at Newstead

Bellbowrie Bridge – pedestrian/cycle/public transport bridge, emergency access.

River end of Weekes Road at Bellbowrie to Grindle Road at Wacol

OTHER GREEN BRIDGES:

These new green bridges will complement the conversion of Victoria Bridge to a green bridge for the Brisbane Metro with additional space for pedestrians and cyclists.

The Neville Bonner Bridge, built by Star, will connect pedestrians from Queen's Wharf Brisbane to South Bank.

In 2006, Brisbane City Council delivered Australia's first pedestrian, cycle and bus bridge - the Eleanor Schonell Bridge – connecting Dutton Park and the University of Queensland.

INFORMATION SESSIONS:

Saturday, November 16: 7am-12pm

Davies Park Markets, West End

Monday, November 18: 4-7pm

South Brisbane Sailing Club, West End

Tuesday, November 19: 4–7pm

Ground level foyer, Queensland Multicultural Centre, 102 Main Street, Kangaroo Point

Friday, November 22: 10am-1pm

St Lucia Community Hall, 27 Guilfoyle Street, St Lucia

Saturday, November 23: 10am–2pm

Captain Burke Park,

117 Holman Street, Kangaroo Point

Monday, November 25: 3-6pm

Toowong Library, Toowong Village Shopping Centre, 9 Sherwood Road, Toowong

Tuesday, November 26: 10am-1pm

Queen Street Mall main stage, Brisbane City

Thursday, November 28: 10am-2pm

Bellbowrie Mobile Library, Bellbowrie Shopping Plaza, 37 Birkin Road, Bellbowrie

Saturday November 30: 2-8pm

Bretts Wharf, Hamilton

Sunday, December 1: 8am–3pm

Riverside Markets, City Botanic Gardens, Alice and Albert streets, Brisbane City

Tuesday, December 3: 3-6pm

City Botanic Gardens near the Alice/Edward Street roundabout, Brisbane City

For more details visit: Five new green bridges across Brisbane: https://brisbane.qld.gov.au/traffic-and-transport/roads-infrastructure-and-bikeways/five-new-green-bridges-across-brisbane

[ozbob]

Council plans 'bridge to nowhere' https://t.co/Dj7o46eNF0 #bnepol #qldpol

— RAIL_BoT_Forum (@railbotforum) November 15, 2019

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Council developing total cost for green bridges

Eight months after announcing a half-billion dollar commitment for five new green bridges across the city, Brisbane City Council is still establishing the total expected cost.

Only one bridge, the Kangaroo Point pedestrian bridge linking the point to the City Botanic Gardens, has an estimated costing of $190 million thanks to a business case recently finalised.

If built, two West End bridges - one from Toowong to West End and the other from St Lucia to West End - would be for pedestrians, cyclists and public transport.

A pedestrian and cycle bridge connecting Kingsford Smith Drive Riverwalk into the existing riverwalk network would be constructed at Breakfast Creek.

And a final bridge at Belbowrie to Wacol was tapped as a potential pedestrian, cycling and public transport bridge with emergency access to alleviate flood risk in the area.

The smaller pedestrian and cycling bridges at Breakfast Creek and West End to St Lucia are expected to cost less than the Kangaroo Point bridge, but the public and active transport committee on Tuesday heard there were still no estimates yet for the cost of each bridge.

The council will request state or federal funding for the bridges, with the plan being that the council would stump up two thirds of the total cost, already allocated in this years' budget.

Opposition leader Jared Cassidy asked how the $550 million figure was settled on by the council for the estimated total cost of the five bridges.

Cr Adams said "high-level costings" were completed before she became public and active transport committe chairwoman.

"We'll be working with Infrastructure Australia as we have with Metro and all of those [projects] as well," Cr Adams said.

"We have put that through the 10-year long-term budget in the book, it is there in the book, but we have to go out and we do the high-level and see how we go."

Cr Adams said there were "opportunities" to work with the University of Queensland on the proposed West End bridge, as the university had already indicated its own plans to construct a pedestrian bridge.

"The Toowong one, again it depends I suppose on the height and what you're looking at, what you need to get under there as well," she said.

The Bellbowrie to Wacol bridge, however, would be significantly more expensive due to its need to be used for buses and emergency vehicles.

"There is flood issues, we want buses and emergency services to go over that," Cr Adams said.

"But also under federal funding in particular, this is emergency services for natural disasters so there should hopefully be some good funding we can pick up."

Lord mayor Adrian Schrinner announced the commitment for five new green bridges when he took the mayoralty in late March this year, saying the council wanted all the bridges constructed within five to 10 years.

The green bridges were put to the community for feedback two weeks ago, which will run until December 6.

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^^When I closely looked at the proposal. I ended up supporting the Council's preferred option of Weekes Road to Wacol. As this option would also provides Public Transport access, urban renewal and a network of bike and recreational paths on the Wacol side as well as enhanced cycle infrastructure on the Moggil side. This would encourage an active lifestyle in line with Council's objectives. I also added that there would be a need for a cafe/bar outlet on the Moggill side of the bridge. This would provide a vital rest point for tourists and locals who want to have a coffee or a drink and enjoy the riverbank scenery. The bridge and urban renewal proposal can turn the area into a real pedestrian and cycling tourism hot spot. Especially with train access to Wacol and Darra it would allow cyclists to travel to this area by train to enjoy the network of cycle paths. A new Public transport route can easily go to Darra via Wacol, so that wasn't an issue for me. The flood mitigation was also an important issue which firmed up my decision. P.s. My favourite bridge from the survey was the Perth Bridge with the curved overhead structures and LED lighting.

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^^When I closely looked at the proposal. I ended up supporting the Council's preferred option of Weekes Road to Wacol. As this option would also provides Public Transport access, urban renewal and a network of bike and recreational paths on the Wacol side as well as enhanced cycle infrastructure on the Moggil side. This would encourage an active lifestyle in line with Council's objectives. I also added that there would be a need for a cafe/bar outlet on the Moggill side of the bridge. This would provide a vital rest point for tourists and locals who want to have a coffee or a drink and enjoy the riverbank scenery. The bridge and urban renewal proposal can turn the area into a real pedestrian and cycling tourism hot spot. Especially with train access to Wacol and Darra it would allow cyclists to travel to this area by train to enjoy the network of cycle paths. A new Public transport route can easily go to Darra via Wacol, so that wasn't an issue for me. The flood mitigation was also an important issue which firmed up my decision. P.s. My favourite bridge from the survey was the Perth Bridge with the curved overhead structures and LED lighting.

I went to the consultation today at Toowong Library. There is no business case for any of the bridges except Kangaroo Point to the City bridge. So they are just guaging people's opinions. I had a bit of a whinge saying that we seem to have alot of community consultations but nothing gets done. I said the Toowong to West End and also the Moggill to Wacol bridge needs to be built in the next 4-5 years not 10. They had no idea of time frames unfortunately. But I replied there is an election coming up and this all ties in with that. p.s. I also added that Sydney and Melbourne are way ahead of this type.of infrastructure in regards to an Active lifestyle. E.g. Pools, bike paths and hiking trails etc ...but Brisbane seems to be 15-20 years behind. They are just my observations.

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