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On 31 March 2017 a $30 million contract was let to install ETCS 1 from Caboolture to Gympie North.
Does anyone know if that work has been completed yet?
This is separate to the $634 million ETCS II contract for Milton to Northgate.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2021, 12:26:44 AM by ozbob »
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2019, 02:21:20 PM »
On 31 March 2017 a $30 million contract was let to install ETCS 1 from Caboolture to Gympie North.
Does anyone know if that work has been completed yet?
This is separate to the $634 million ETCS II contract for Milton to Northgate.
^^This also needs to be completed to run NGRs to Gympie as well.  I guess it will need to be completed soon to allow these trains to run.

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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2019, 03:38:49 PM »
On 31 March 2017 a $30 million contract was let to install ETCS 1 from Caboolture to Gympie North.
Does anyone know if that work has been completed yet?
This is separate to the $634 million ETCS II contract for Milton to Northgate.
^^This also needs to be completed to run NGRs to Gympie as well.  I guess it will need to be completed soon to allow these trains to run.

NGRs won't be operating beyond Nambour until ATP equipment compatible with ETCS (L1 and L2) is installed on the NGRs.
As was confirmed by others on this forum, NGRs aren't currently approved to operate beyond Nambour on testing runs.

ATM, the IMU100s on the Gympie North services are currently 3-crewed beyond Nambour in lieu of the absence of ATP.
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2021, 11:16:00 AM »
https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/91480

This will also enable the operation of "modern" trains north of Nambour (in other words inflicting the NGRs north of Nambour), although NGRs already have provisions for ETCS compatible ATP ready to be installed, removing the need for the 2nd driver north of Nambour.

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Minister for Transport and Main Roads
The Honourable Mark Bailey

16th February 2021

The Sunshine Coast rail line is being fitted with new signalling technology to improve safety on the line.

About 60 workers are involved in the $43 million project to roll out European Train Control System (ETCS) level one technology between Caboolture and Gympie North.

The work is occurring ahead of major construction on stage one of the jointly-funded $550 million Sunshine Coast Rail Duplication project ramping up in the next 12 months.

Transport and Main Roads Minister Mark Bailey said the Queensland Rail project involved upgrading 130 signal equipment cubicles and installing 43 new equipment cubicles over 120 kilometres of track.

“Lead contractor Rail Control Systems Australia has more than 30 people working on this project out of Cooroy and they’re employing electrical apprentices who receive on the job experience in railway signalling control systems,” Mr Bailey said.

“RCSA has also brought on local subcontractors based here on the Sunshine Coast at Landsborough and Pelican Waters.

“Across the whole project, more than 60 jobs are being supported, including in trades such as electrical, signalling, engineering and traffic control.”

Mr Bailey said the project was not only supporting local jobs, it was also gearing the North Coast rail line up for improved services between the Sunshine Coast and Brisbane ahead of Cross River Rail opening in 2025.

“Installing ETCS technology on the line means we’ll be able to put the newer NGR class trains into services up to Gympie,” Mr Bailey said.

“Integrating ETCS and Automatic Train Protection (ATP) systems along the line is also an important step in preparing for track duplication between Beerburrum and Landsborough.

“Once installation has been completed along the track and onboard trains, the new infrastructure will provide an engineering control to ensure trains stop before the red signal.”

Member for Nicklin Robert Skelton said it’s a great win for local jobs and local commuters.

“This is all about supporting jobs, especially apprentices,” Mr Skelton said.

“Down the track, the upgrades will also see more modern trains able to operate in our region which will be welcomed by the thousands of people who commute to work every day.

“Crews started work near Gympie last September and have been progressively making their way south.

"This project will continue to support a significant number of jobs through to the middle of next year until the crews finish their work just south of Caboolture.

“Works are about to ramp up on the Sunshine Coast Rail Duplication project, so I’m pleased to see the work is being done to equip the rail line with signalling technology that is increasingly being adopted on major rail systems across the world.”

RCSA Construction Delivery Manager Darren McNamara said delivery of the highly technical train control system had opened new opportunities to work with local businesses, and to invest in more apprenticeships.

“The RSCA team is glad to be working alongside local subcontractors from Landsborough and Pelican Waters, who are providing vital services in digging, underground service proving and signalling testing and commissioning,” Mr McNamara said.

“We’re sourcing materials locally where possible, from hardware, cement and local fabrication services through to hydraulic services, vehicle servicing and accommodation in Cooroy and Noosaville.

“This project has also allowed us to invest in more young talent. Our electrical apprentices receive on the job experience in railway signalling control systems – skills that are in high demand in the industry.

“This project has given RCSA the confidence to employ an additional apprentice and we have further plans to employ additional apprentices over the project’s duration.”

As part of the Cross River Rail project, a new signalling system is also being installed across sections of the inner-city network, using ETCS level two technology.

The works will be rolled out in several stages starting with the Shorncliffe line, where work has already started.

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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2021, 01:04:19 PM »
Sunshine Coast News --> Sunshine Coast rail upgrade lays groundwork for new modern trains
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2021, 01:08:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/MarkBaileyMP/status/1361476370929360898
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2021, 02:11:17 PM »
Yay so now everyone can shut up about installing ATP on a couple of Random NGRs.  :bg:

Surfrail was spot on. Upgrade the lineside infrastructure to reflect the rest of the network, not create bespoke rollingstock for a service that runs a couple of times a day.

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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2021, 02:27:39 PM »
I mentioned that ETCS 1 was going to be installed on the Sunshine Coast line. Sunbus from another forum mentioned this quite a while back.

It's a good outcome for travellers on the Sunshine Coast line.
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2021, 02:34:52 PM »
European Train Control System (ETCS 1) https://railbotforum.org/yourls/j

On 31 March 2017 a $30 million contract was let to install ETCS 1 from Caboolture to Gympie North.
Does anyone know if that work has been completed yet?
This is separate to the $634 million ETCS II contract for Milton to Northgate.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2021, 04:02:07 PM by ozbob »

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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2021, 02:43:39 PM »
The ATP equipment intended to be installed on the NGRs are also intended to be compatible with both ETCS1 and ETCS2 (inner city, CRR).

Gympie North is just the test bed for ETCS (as a whole) prior to CRR opening.
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2021, 02:47:24 PM »
But it also means NGRS can be utilised to Gympie North. There was talk of the ICE trains being retired in a year so this will ensure they have trains that run of Nambour.
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2021, 08:39:56 PM »
This means NGRs can be used network wide at least (sans Ferny Grove to Beenleigh, but that's not a huge issue).

Really should have more of a solid pathway to having ETCS L2 rolled out through the entire metropolitan area (although north of Caboolture probably not required).
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2021, 03:11:50 PM »
^ What's the issue with NGRs on Ferny Grove<->Beenleigh? I'm guessing something northwest of Bowen Hills, considering the GC line is basically 100% NGR these days.
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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2021, 03:51:37 PM »
State Government is making big media play that this means 30 (temporary) jobs for Cooroy -- midway between Gympie North and Nambour -- and slap bang in the newly won ALP electorate of Nicklin, represented by Rob Skelton MP. Now, if only they offered more sweeteners for Mr Skelton's electorate (which also includes Nambour and Woombye) by offering local-run trains on the SCL, especially shuttles between Nambour and Gympie North.  :fx

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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2021, 05:03:17 PM »
^ What's the issue with NGRs on Ferny Grove<->Beenleigh? I'm guessing something northwest of Bowen Hills, considering the GC line is basically 100% NGR these days.
From what others have said on the forum I believe it's something to do with platform clearances at Newmarket station. I may be wrong though

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Re: European Train Control System (ETCS 1) Caboolture - Gympie North
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2021, 07:05:20 PM »
^ What's the issue with NGRs on Ferny Grove<->Beenleigh? I'm guessing something northwest of Bowen Hills, considering the GC line is basically 100% NGR these days.
From what others have said on the forum I believe it's something to do with platform clearances at Newmarket station. I may be wrong though

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Yeah that's what I thought as well as read that. some station platforms along the line need to be redesigned.

 

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