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Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« on: June 02, 2019, 08:17:20 PM »
Does anyone know when the next bus network review is due for the Sunshine Coast?

I raised the missing 12 Landsborough rail connection buses in my meeting with Transport and Main Roads Minister, the Hon Mark Bailey MP on 11 March 2019, and TMR DG Mr Neil Scales said that it would be included in the next bus network review.
I contacted the Deputy Director General, Mr Matthew Longland via LinkedIn on 3 April to ask when the next bus review would occur - and to date have received no response.
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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2019, 08:15:19 AM »
Take your pick:

1. Regular reviews are no longer carried out
2. They are but are not acted on.
3. There is no money.
4. Politics.

I'm aware of at least one service change in the BCC area that is on hold for want of $20,000.  It's pathetic, just like everything to do with public transport in Queensland.
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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 09:15:51 PM »
Does anyone know when the next bus network review is due for the Sunshine Coast?

I raised the missing 12 Landsborough rail connection buses in my meeting with Transport and Main Roads Minister, the Hon Mark Bailey MP on 11 March 2019, and TMR DG Mr Neil Scales said that it would be included in the next bus network review.
I contacted the Deputy Director General, Mr Matthew Longland via LinkedIn on 3 April to ask when the next bus review would occur - and to date have received no response.

I received a response today from my meeting with the Hon Mark Bailey MP, Member for Miller and Minister for Transport and Main Roads.
I appreciate the Minister's 3 page response, addressing almost all items raised.

In relation to the extra buses to meet trains at Landsborough station, "it is not possible to connect to all rail services due to the significant levels of investment required to deliver this outcome."

This for the Sunshine Coast line (even though we have very few trains) compared to anywhere in SEQ.

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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 09:20:20 PM »
Does anyone know when the next bus network review is due for the Sunshine Coast?

I raised the missing 12 Landsborough rail connection buses in my meeting with Transport and Main Roads Minister, the Hon Mark Bailey MP on 11 March 2019, and TMR DG Mr Neil Scales said that it would be included in the next bus network review.
I contacted the Deputy Director General, Mr Matthew Longland via LinkedIn on 3 April to ask when the next bus review would occur - and to date have received no response.

I received a response today from my meeting with the Hon Mark Bailey MP, Member for Miller and Minister for Transport and Main Roads.
I appreciate the Minister's 3 page response, addressing almost all items raised.

In relation to the extra buses to meet trains at Landsborough station, "it is not possible to connect to all rail services due to the significant levels of investment requited to deliver this outcome."

This for the Sunshine Coast line (even though we have very few trains) compared to anywhere in SEQ.
That's an unfortunate reply. Here's hoping for more buses once duplication is complete. But I guess that's a while off now being mid 2020s?

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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2019, 10:24:09 PM »
It's all a symptom of the Australian Government inflicting pointless austerity of the Australian people, which ties the hands of state and local governments.

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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2019, 01:47:42 AM »
^ No it isn't.  It's a consequence of inept management and prioritising the needs of motorists (to the point of spending millions on park and ride spaces in the inner city instead of making sure feeder buses are available and work).  We don't need Commonwealth money to do anything.
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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2019, 01:52:31 AM »
^ No it isn't.  It's a consequence of inept management and prioritising the needs of motorists (to the point of spending millions on park and ride spaces in the inner city instead of making sure feeder buses are available and work).  We don't need Commonwealth money to do anything.

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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2019, 09:16:53 PM »
We don't need Commonwealth money to do anything.

You will find the Australian Dollar comes from the Reserve Bank of Australia, which is a body corporate wholly owned by the Commonwealth of Australia. We can't do anything without Australia Dollars. Arguing about the financial constraints of state and local governments without looking at the Australian Government is pointless.

"The Reserve Bank of Australia is Australia's central bank. Its role is set out in the Reserve Bank Act 1959. The Bank conducts the nation's monetary policy and issues its currency. It seeks to foster financial system stability and promotes the safety and efficiency of the payments system. It also offers banking services to government. The Bank is a body corporate wholly owned by the Commonwealth of Australia."
source: https://www.rba.gov.au/qa/

"The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) is Australia's central bank and derives its functions and powers from the Reserve Bank Act 1959. Its duty is to contribute to the stability of the currency, full employment, and the economic prosperity and welfare of the Australian people."
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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2019, 08:03:34 AM »
Not sure if sarcasm or comically missing the point
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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2019, 12:54:59 PM »
You missed my point. Arguing over state and local infrastructure without looking at the Commonwealth is pointless.

It is obvious that mayor pieces of infrastructure, such as highways and railways are dependent on Commonwealth funding.

We can do X or Y at state or local level if we are more efficient with Z is counting your cents and missing your dollars.

This is a serious issue, I would not have raised it if I did not think it was.

We need to be holding the Australian Government to account not fighting among ourselves.

State and local governments get the s**t kicked out of them for what is ultimately a Commonwealth issue.

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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2019, 01:36:20 PM »
That's arguable at best.  We have a $40bn plus budget each year to play with, and a huge chunk of that is already grants from the Commonwealth (mainly GST).  It's up to the State to fund things properly by allocating capital outlays where they do the most good.  They generally don't.  The Commonwealth doesn't have spare billions lying around either, and spending them into existence (which only they can do) can only be done so much without other adverse consequences.

Qld could put royalties up more.  Qld could defer spending on roads used by bugger all people out in the sticks.  Qld could order trains that don't come with a $400m rectification price tag.  Qld could do proper business cases and planning for capital intensive projects.  This state needs to get its own house in order before putting its hand out, and that is directed at whoever is in government and the dickhead mandarins who muck things up regardless of who is in Parliament.
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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2019, 07:51:21 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support those statements? I have plenty of evidence to support what I have said previously.

My point is spending should be for public purpose. The limiting factor is people, resources, and ecological capacity.

I have not come here to argue with you. I am laying out how things actually work.

You can continue to waste your time with semantics or address the issue at the source.

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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2019, 08:02:18 PM »
Does anyone know when the next bus network review is due for the Sunshine Coast?

I raised the missing 12 Landsborough rail connection buses in my meeting with Transport and Main Roads Minister, the Hon Mark Bailey MP on 11 March 2019, and TMR DG Mr Neil Scales said that it would be included in the next bus network review.
I contacted the Deputy Director General, Mr Matthew Longland via LinkedIn on 3 April to ask when the next bus review would occur - and to date have received no response.
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Re: Bus Network Review for Sunshine Coast
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2019, 10:17:29 PM »
Do you have any evidence to support those statements? I have plenty of evidence to support what I have said previously.

My point is spending should be for public purpose. The limiting factor is people, resources, and ecological capacity.

I have not come here to argue with you. I am laying out how things actually work.

You can continue to waste your time with semantics or address the issue at the source.

It's not semantics.  Queensland does not need any extra federal funding to fix the public transport system because it has sufficient revenue and revenue generating means to do so.  What it needs is better governance and better targeted spending.  Extra federal funding would be fantastic, but a competent government would be better and no amount of extra funding will fix that problem.
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