On time bus performance - discussion

[ozbob]

Spreadsheet > https://backontrack.org/docs/bus/otr/busSEQotr.ods



Admin: Updated to Q2  2018-19

[ozbob]

Magic   

[ozbob]

Guess the question has to be asked ...

Is the southern region ratsh%t or are they very honest in terms of reporting?

I am not sure how OTR bus is determined, if it is off go card readers than should be reasonably accurate, if it involves self reporting .. 

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

28th October 2018

A quick look at bus on-time running in all SEQ regions

Good Morning,

RAIL Back On Track has looked back over the last two years of SEQ Regions Bus on-time running as reported in the TransLink Tracker ( https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/translink-division-quarterly-reports ).  A summary table is as follows:



Note the benchmark of satisfactory performance is considered by TransLink to be better than 90% based on a performance standard of the bus being within six minutes after or two minutes before the scheduled arrival times.  So with an 8 minute window, it is considered acceptable for 1 in 10 buses to be late.  This reflects that fact the buses often get caught up in the worsening road congestion issues now a feature of roads throughout SEQ, and this leads to problems with follow on runs.  We are not sure how the on-time running is determined but if it is based on actual GPS readings from go card readers at timing points we would expect it to be reasonably accurate.  If it is based on a small sample at timing points and extrapolated, as it was a number of years ago, it would not be particularly accurate at all.

Not withstanding that, the data seems to show some very poor on-time running, below the standard for the southern region. The Brisbane and Western regions are marginal as well.  This suggests that these regions need a review of the bus timetables and perhaps adjustments are required to bring buses back on time.  Another feature of the data series is the wide variation in on-time running performance between the regions. What are the official explanations for this variation? This does not seem to align with passengers experiences as reported in the TransLink Customer Satisfaction Monthly Snapshots ( https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/translink-public-transport-performance-snapshots ).

Best wishes,

Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
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RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

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Sent to all outlets:

17th May 2019

Concerns with the on-time running of SEQ bus

Good Morning,

The latest published TransLink Tracker (Q2 2018-19 https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/translink-division-quarterly-reports ) confirms the deteriorating on-time running performance of bus in SEQ.  Of particular concern are the Southern and Western bus regions.

RAIL Back On Track members often monitor bus on-time running in real time and can confirm that it is worse than what reported service disruptions indicate.  Timetables do not match local road conditions and this means that delays are common, missed connections are chronic and it is not at all satisfactory.  There is an urgent need for bus network improvements, timetable and route reviews.

Data from Q2 TransLink Tracker



From Q2 TransLink Tracker



The present approach to delivery of bus services in SEQ is failing.

Time for action!

Best wishes,

Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

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[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1129151278599196673

[ozbob]

[techblitz]

In terms of the trend line....brisbane doing the best.....helped along nicely with the extra fat added to timetables which allows a lot of routes to cushion the population growth(other vehicles on the road).

Only one half of the equation though......there is also capacity to worry about and that's where Brisbane will fall short vs the other networks.....its going to buckle quickly if they don't do a proper review and get more buses where they are needed...

As for southern/western.......is matt longland going to continue twiddling his thumbs just because the overall trend line is above 90%? Or does he have an actual plan?

[ozbob]

Southern is striking!    Western not going well either.  Very disappointing that the mediocre performance is tolerated by the authorities ..

The real risks of aggregate figures, need to split it out.  Same with rail, need to look at individual lines.  There is almost a conspiracy of non-transparency.  They do not make it easy to see what is really going on hey?

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1129511152386371584

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

18th May 2019

Re: Concerns with the on-time running of SEQ bus

Greetings,

To further highlight how poor the Southern bus region is doing here is a graph showing the trends in on-time running for all bus regions from Q1 2016-17 through to Q2 2018-19 the last published data.

It is very disappointing that the poor performance in Southern and to a lesser extent in Western bus regions is not being addressed, well, at least publicly. 



Robert Dow
Administration
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RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

Sent to all outlets:

17th May 2019

Concerns with the on-time running of SEQ bus

Good Morning,

The latest published TransLink Tracker (Q2 2018-19 https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/translink-division-quarterly-reports ) confirms the deteriorating on-time running performance of bus in SEQ.  Of particular concern are the Southern and Western bus regions.

RAIL Back On Track members often monitor bus on-time running in real time and can confirm that it is worse than what reported service disruptions indicate.  Timetables do not match local road conditions and this means that delays are common, missed connections are chronic and it is not at all satisfactory.  There is an urgent need for bus network improvements, timetable and route reviews.

Data from Q2 TransLink Tracker



From Q2 TransLink Tracker



The present approach to delivery of bus services in SEQ is failing.

Time for action!

Best wishes,

Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

Letter to the Editor Queensland Times 20th May 2019 page 13

Concerns with the running of SEQ bus

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1130556643924512768

[ozbob]

[AnonymouslyBad]

Southern region has always been a shocker, hasn't it?

In peak hour, too many buses on the M1. In the off peak, too many buses with a high concentration of passengers who cause delay for one reason or another.

I grew up in Logan area and maybe with the exception of 2-3 years after TL first came in and fixed the timetables, buses have always been infamously late.

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Brisbane buses hit with delays

Brisbane commuters are suffering from lengthy bus timetable blowouts, with the average timing of some services extended by up to a third.

BRISBANE commuters are suffering from lengthy bus timetable blow outs, with the average timing of some services being extended by up to a third.

The Courier-Mail can reveal the city's worst bus route last financial year was the 380, between Spring Hill and The Gap, with the service running on average 12 minutes behind its 35 minute schedule.

Commuters travelling from Forest Lake into the city on the 100 service were hit with average delays of 13 minutes on their 53 minute route — a 24.5 per cent blowout.

The Courier-Mail's reporters put the city's bus network to the test this week, and while some commuters praised the services, others were not happy.

At least five services were hit with average delays of at least 10 minutes in 2018-19, including the route 230 between Bulimba and Fortitude Valley as well as the 433 between Kenmore and Spring Hill.

Another seven services experienced average delays of between seven and nine minutes, including the 180 service between Garden City Shopping Centre and Queen St Mall.

On average, another nine minutes was added to the 135 route between Parkinson and the Queen St Mall, while commuters on the 63-minute 340 service between Carseldine and Woolloongabba had average delays of eight minutes.

RACQ's head of public policy Rebecca Michael said members had told them that poor timetabling and multiple transfers were a major deterrent to catching public transport.

"Some of these results really do echo the problems we hear about all too often, while others raise concerns about the progress being made toward fixing these delays," Dr Michael said. "While the delays are an issue of their own, they do indicate there's a broader congestion problem on Brisbane roads.

"Some of the services which suffer the longest lag times operate on roads with the biggest bottlenecks like the Pacific Motorway, Gympie Rd and Wynnum Rd."

Dr Michael said the city's bus network was long overdue for "major reform", adding that the co-ordination and frequency of services needed to be better managed as well as a reduction in the number of transfers in a single bus trip.

"We know a better connected Brisbane is a less congested one, and clearing the bottlenecks will improve the efficiency of the broader network," she said.

"We need to see continued investment on our roads along with major projects like Brisbane Metro brought to life, and the Northern and Eastern transitways delivered."

Brisbane City Council's Public and Active Transport Chair Krista Adams defended the delays. She said the majority of routes currently facing delays would directly link to the council's $944 million Brisbane Metro or the upgraded Wynnum Rd corridor.

"Our plans to ease congestion and get you home sooner are fully funded and already in motion, including the Brisbane Metro project, the Wynnum Rd upgrade, the Kingsford Smith Drive upgrade and five new bridges," Cr Adams said.

Labor's transport spokesman Jared Cassidy said the delays were extremely concerning, arguing that they were evidence of the "mounting congestion crisis that is engulfing Brisbane".

He insisted Brisbane Metro would not deliver any benefits for a "whole swag" of the city's worst bus routes.

"The patronage is really struggling on Brisbane's buses because it's taking too long for people to be able to get where they need to go," he said.

"Price point is always right at the top of what drives people to use public transport. But also as important is reliability — not just in terms of turning up on time, but also in terms of getting you to the end destination on time."

Dennis Driver, 68, from The Gap, who was on the route 380 bus, said the service was better than what it was a few years ago.

"Definitely, these bus lanes seem to work," he said.

Sam Lee, 30, who caught the route 435 bus on Wednesday, said the services was usually packed.

"They don't run enough buses," he said.

[ozbob]

From TransLink Tracker Q3 18/19  page 6

[ozbob]

Updated for Q3 18/19

Spreadsheet > https://backontrack.org/docs/bus/otr/busSEQotr.ods

Note 18/19 is only up to Q3

[ozbob]

Couriermail Editorial 3rd August 2019 page 52

Transport woes leave us lagging behind

SUCCESSFUL public transport has always been predominantly about three things – confidence, convenience and cost.

If commuters can be confident that their bus, train or ferry will arrive and leave on time then they will consider leaving their cars at home.

If public transport stations are built in convenient locations that are close to where commuters live and work then they will happily hop on.

And equally important to both these factors is costs, with public transport particularly susceptible to rising prices.

While no system is perfect, cities with world-class public transport like Singapore, Tokyo, London and New York are regarded as great places to live and visit.

But those cities with systems that lack efficiency and frequency usually have a poor reputation.

For many years, different incarnations of the Queensland Government have waxed lyrical about improving the mode share of public transport in the southeast corner.

Each of them made advances on this front in some way by investing in infrastructure like busways and rail routes that expand the network.

But they have each undermined the investment made by messing with the cost, confidence and convenience people can have in the system in some way.

Figures show Brisbane as one of the few major metropolitan areas across Australia where the share of journeys taken to work by public transport actually declined in recent years.

Sydney and Melbourne residents are far more likely to take public transport to work while Brisbane is only marginally better than Perth, Darwin and Adelaide.

Those living in Brisbane who have taken public transport would not be surprised that the city has bucked the trend.

Massive increases in fares to try and offset the State's spending on subsidies resulted in a marked patronage decline at the start of this decade. Then came #railfail that rocked the confidence of commuters as hundreds of extra services that were added in concert with the new Moreton Bay Rail route had to be removed when Queensland Rail realised it didn't have enough drivers.

While the restoration of the QR timetable has begun and the money grab has ended, transport planners should not get too excited about a sudden surge in public transport patronage.

As the figures The Courier-Mail reveals today show, commuters are still not getting the services they need to have confidence about not using their cars.

For example, the city's worst bus route to The Gap, an area that is often less than ideal for even cars to access, ran an average of 12 minutes late last financial year.

The timetable says it should take about 35 minutes.

With no proper transparent system for detailing later arrivals and departures, our reporters undertook their own analysis and identified frequent delays.

These results will come as no surprise to regular bus users.

But they do raise the question about what is being done to fix the system, improve public transport's mode share and give commuters the confidence that they need.

The $5.4 billion Cross River Rail project will certainly be a significant part of the picture when it opens in 2024.

But it is not a panacea for our public transport problems given the expanse of southeast Queensland's heavy rail system remains rather restrained.

What the southeast corner needs is a road map for improving public transport, expanding the system and improving frequency.

As the successful cities have shown, make it fast, frequent and cost effective and the commuters will come.

[James]

Interesting to see that poor OTR seems to particularly occur on very popular services like the 60, 100 and 340, or on services which run down congested corridors like Wynnum Road (227/230/235) or Coro Drive (433/445).

I would like to see whether some of this congestion occurs during the route, or due to issues getting to the start of the route. A number of OB 100 buses in peak start out as IB 453/454/460 which have to deal with the mess around Indooroopilly & along Coro Drive in the PM peak. Not much hope of a bus running on-time when the bus is already 10 minutes late leaving QSBS.

[verbatim9]

https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=13632.msg225439.msg#225439

[verbatim9]

Public transport should be enticing people to get off the road, but new Council figures show hopping on a bus is slow going. @ajhegarty9 #9News pic.twitter.com/5OksVLV2jh

— Nine News Queensland (@9NewsQueensland) August 3, 2019

https://twitter.com/9NewsQueensland/status/1157570326894563329

[AnonymouslyBad]

https://twitter.com/9NewsQueensland/status/1157570326894563329

Wow, he's really trying to use this as an opportunity to flog Brisbane Metro? The routes with late running issues are, surprise surprise, the ones sitting on our most congested arterial roads. A busway upgrade is going to do exactly zero to help them -
they're still going to be sitting on the same congested arterial roads.
The solution is bus lanes or other kinds of bus priority, but that's too politically difficult and Schrinner's mates literally tore bus lanes up a few years ago, so I guess it's not something he'd like to mention

[ozbob]

Brisbane commuters have been hit with lengthy delays, as the bus network struggles to navigate growing congestion. Council hopes 'Brisbane Metro' will be the silver bullet our roads desperately need. @ijmullen #7NEWS pic.twitter.com/PhU9hVqPrd

— 7NEWS Brisbane (@7NewsBrisbane) August 3, 2019

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Sent to all outlets:

3rd August 2019

Bus network reform is a priority !

Good Morning,

The TransLink Tracker for Q3 2018-19 was published a few days ago ( https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/translink-division-quarterly-reports/resource/a7fbca20-3083-4e1f-b677-11ab647c3c80 ).  Unannounced as usual, surely the way to get people on side is to engage proactively Minister Bailey?  The tools are available ... anyway, we have had a look at the Tracker data and added it to our data series so that longer term trends can be easily recognised.

We can note deteriorating bus on-time performance particularly in Southern and Western bus regions. Patronage is increasing on rail, light rail and bus. Ferry has a longer term trend of decreasing patronage. The Couriermail has today highlighted the problems with the varying performance of Brisbane Region bus routes ( see ' Brisbane buses hit with delays ' https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-buses-hit-with-delays/news-story/0230c3d9ba3186496c857bdc50ae50f6 ).

On-time running - bus - by SEQ region for Q3 2018-19 has the Western Region, Southern Region and Brisbane failing to achieve the > 90% target.  Further graphical analysis can be found at https://www.facebook.com/RAILBackOnTrack/posts/2772132592800910

The Southern, Western and Brisbane bus regions are years behind in essential reform.  At a minimum there needs to be timetable adjustments to cope with the reality of the lack of bus priority and worsening road traffic.  Delays to the bus often mean passengers are not able to make their connections to further modes, particularly rail. This can add literally hours to journey times.

Bus reform can deliver very good results, it does not cost billions of dollars. Why publish data if you are not going act on the results? Bus reform is one of the best 'bang for the buck' improvements going in public transport. Well over due, it is time the Palaszczuk Government and its transport agencies, TMR/TransLink, got on the reform bus!!

Best wishes,

Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

I am tired of the failure that is @TransLinkSEQ and @TMRQld
One massive flop/botch after another. You lack the moral fortitude to set up a proper public transport authority hey @AnnastaciaMP @MarkBaileyMP
sadly ...
>> silos of mediocrity!!#qldpol pic.twitter.com/3RSQPeSTGe

— ozbob13 (@ozbob13) August 3, 2019

[#Metro]

Wow, he's really trying to use this as an opportunity to flog Brisbane Metro? The routes with late running issues are, surprise surprise, the ones sitting on our most congested arterial roads. A busway upgrade is going to do exactly zero to help them

Exactly. We already have a busway!

This is the way now - rather than tackle an issue, apply cosmetics to it, and then pivot to spruik your latest talking point about something else (e.g. Cross River Rail, Brisbane Metro). No wonder voters switched off long ago.

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

4th August 2019

Where is the bus?

Greetings,

The chart below shows the bus regions in SEQ and their on-time running performance from Q1 year 16/17 through to Q3 18/19.
Data is from the TransLink Tracker reports ( https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/translink-division-quarterly-reports ).

On-time benchmark is > 90% for bus within six minutes after or two minutes before the scheduled arrival times, an eight minute window.

Note Southern and Western bus region trends, there is a loss of punctuality.  This has significant impact for passengers who are transferring to other modes, eg. rail.  Efforts must be made to improve on-time running.  Timetables need adjustment for peak traffic, school peaks and the like.  Clock face timetables are not suitable for buses running on roads and streets. The Southern bus region is particularly bad.



On-time running for SEQ overall is showing a downwards (loss of punctuality) trend. This is no doubt reflecting the lack of bus priority on roads and streets as traffic congestion worsens.



There needs to be a committment to review both the Southern and Western regions bus networks ASAP with a view to improving performance, hence connections.  In time all regions need to be reviewed.

Best wishes,
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

Sent to all outlets:

3rd August 2019

Bus network reform is a priority !

Good Morning,

The TransLink Tracker for Q3 2018-19 was published a few days ago ( https://publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/translink-division-quarterly-reports/resource/a7fbca20-3083-4e1f-b677-11ab647c3c80 ).  Unannounced as usual, surely the way to get people on side is to engage proactively Minister Bailey?  The tools are available ... anyway, we have had a look at the Tracker data and added it to our data series so that longer term trends can be easily recognised.

We can note deteriorating bus on-time performance particularly in Southern and Western bus regions. Patronage is increasing on rail, light rail and bus. Ferry has a longer term trend of decreasing patronage. The Couriermail has today highlighted the problems with the varying performance of Brisbane Region bus routes ( see ' Brisbane buses hit with delays ' https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-buses-hit-with-delays/news-story/0230c3d9ba3186496c857bdc50ae50f6 ).

On-time running - bus - by SEQ region for Q3 2018-19 has the Western Region, Southern Region and Brisbane failing to achieve the > 90% target.  Further graphical analysis can be found at https://www.facebook.com/RAILBackOnTrack/posts/2772132592800910

The Southern, Western and Brisbane bus regions are years behind in essential reform.  At a minimum there needs to be timetable adjustments to cope with the reality of the lack of bus priority and worsening road traffic.  Delays to the bus often mean passengers are not able to make their connections to further modes, particularly rail. This can add literally hours to journey times.

Bus reform can deliver very good results, it does not cost billions of dollars. Why publish data if you are not going act on the results? Bus reform is one of the best 'bang for the buck' improvements going in public transport. Well over due, it is time the Palaszczuk Government and its transport agencies, TMR/TransLink, got on the reform bus!!

Best wishes,

Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

[James]

Brisbane Metro is just going to be used as an excuse for proper network reform. Unfortunately it will be too late by then. What's come out yesterday is just one of the later stages of the death of the bus network, caused by the lack of reform over the past 5-10 years.

Because the bus network is so unattractive to use, and has remained unattractive to use, the rate of growth in PT has either been bare minimum, or gone backwards. There have been no notable service upgrades in Brisbane since the opening of the Northern Busway in 2012 (and even those were limited to one area of Brisbane). You can't expect any additional patronage beyond population growth rates if you aren't adding more services.

All the while, apartment blocks & townhouses are being put in places which used to be a few houses with a little old granny in them, yet the service levels & frequencies have remained at the levels they were 20 years ago. And without decent PT, all these new residents are driving and adding cars to the road, making congestion worse. #RailFail certainly hasn't helped - you could notice the congestion get worse when it happened.

Unfortunately successive community groups & governments have opposed bus network, and the lack of appetite continues. Bad decisions have long-term consequences...

[ozbob]

It's a ' magic bus ' if it:

1. actually turns up and is within the on-time window,
2. timetables allow connections to be made ..#qldpolhttps://t.co/4s6eZqrrCT

— ozbob13 (@ozbob13) August 4, 2019

[ozbob]

Something needs to be done about the rapidly deteriorating bus networks hey @MarkBaileyMP @SteveMinnikinMP
We now have #busfail another failure in a long long list.
Change will not happen unless you change the bumbling transport agencies #qldpolhttps://t.co/3wJ0i3ZHNu

— RAIL_BoT_Forum (@railbotforum) August 5, 2019

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

6th August 2019

#busfail is now in place

Good Morning,

We are calling it!  #busfail is now added to the long list of public transport failures.

Simply ignoring the problems is not fixing the problems Minister Bailey.

Unless there is a restructure to have a proper public transport authority, with the resources, the staff and the will to sort out the mess, it is only going to continue to get worse.  The record of failure of the present agencies will continue unless there is structural reform.  The evidence of the shambles speaks for itself.

Best wishes,
Robert

Robert Dow
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Attached: https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=13380.msg225476#msg225476

[ozbob]

Lastest: #busfail is now in place
 👉https://t.co/F4gbF5v6pO#qldpol@AnnastaciaMP @DebFrecklington @MarkBaileyMP @SteveMinnikinMP
Add #busfail to #railfail #farefail #DDAfail #NGRfail #RPLfail #LXfail
Ignoring for years failing performance. Time to call it out!
🔴 pic.twitter.com/tGbb30cLfF

— RAIL_BoT_Forum (@railbotforum) August 5, 2019

[ozbob]

Queensland Times 6th August 2019 page 6

Network slowest in southeast



Typo: 84.74 per cent of buses on the western network, Ipswich and Springfield were 'on-time'  (not, 'not on-time').

[ozbob]

Letter to the Editor Queensland Times 7th August 2019 page 19

Bus shambles speaks for itself

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Brisbane council warned by TransLink for releasing bus data

Brisbane City Council has been issued a breach notice from TransLink after releasing data on the number of buses missing stops because they are full each month.

Earlier this year, lord mayor Adrian Schrinner said the council would release the monthly data again, saying the council had originally done so several years ago until TransLink requested it stop.

Brisbane Times reported the August figures, which showed bus routes to and from the University of Queensland were some of the busiest and buses were frequently forced to miss stops because of full passenger loads.

At this week's council meeting, deputy mayor Krista Adams said the LNP administration's commitment to "openness and transparency" meant they "don't want any secrets" and Cr Schrinner was determined to release the full standing load monthly.

"We didn't even get to our third release of this information before [Transport Minister Mark] Bailey intervened and tried to gag us," Cr Adams said.

"He ordered his officers to slam council with a contract breach. That's what you get for being upfront with your residents – a breach notice."

But the Transport Minister denied he had any knowledge of the notice and said Cr Adams' assertion that he had ordered it was "false".

"I haven't and had no knowledge of this operational action by the department," Mr Bailey said.

"Council runs bus services under contract with TMR [the Department of Transport and Main Roads].

"Terms in that contract say council can release bus performance data, providing they tell TMR first."

Mr Bailey said the council had released the data without telling Transport and Main Roads, so the department issued council with a letter reminding them of contractual obligations.

"I'm advised TMR sent a letter to tell council 'we're putting on record that you failed to do what you said you would do'," Mr Bailey said.

"Somehow Cr Adams has found a way to spin it as some grand political conspiracy."

The notice of failure to comply, released by the council and dated October 2, referred to the data released to Brisbane Times and stated "[Brisbane City Council] did not seek written approval from TMR within the specified notice period to release these comments".

"In addition, August data provided is misleading due to the change implemented on 19 August (12 weekdays on previous timetable, 10 weekdays on the new timetable)," the breach notice said.

The notice also quoted from the contract between TMR and the council, which stated council had to obtain prior written approval from TMR before releasing the data, and any media announcements or releases had to be made jointly or approved by both parties.

Council was due to respond to the breach notice by Thursday evening.

Cr Adams told the council "hundreds of Brisbane buses have skipped their stops" and the council's $944 million Brisbane Metro project could help solve issues with bus loads but she accused the Labor minister of dragging his feet on approvals.

"The metro would triple the number of services on route 66, the same route which has over 3000 missed stop services this year," she said.

Mr Bailey said the accusations were "petty antics"  by the LNP in an effort to distract from deeper issues at Brisbane City Council.

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FMD, they really are control freaks.  See what we are up against?   

There is a culture on non-transparency.  More evidence.

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/ozbob13/status/1184711884978585608