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SEQ Transit Maps
« on: October 22, 2018, 05:35:06 PM »
https://seqtransit.henrus1.com/



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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2018, 06:19:37 PM »
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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2018, 04:23:25 PM »
Parkwood East not far behind Rothwell although both are busier than the entire Rosewood line

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2018, 04:26:58 PM »
Rail
Central                    821,646
Roma St                  236,389
Fortitude Valley       223,148
South Bank Rail       107,477
South Brisbane       88,105

Light Rail

Cavil Ave                  121,946
Broadbeach South   107,673
Southport                 88,813
Helensvale               83,202
GCUH                       83,093

Busway
Cultural Centre        390,185
South Bank              145,908
Roma St                   144,542
Mater Hill                 131,533
Upper Mt Gravatt     126,451

« Last Edit: October 23, 2018, 04:40:32 PM by Old Northern Road »

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2018, 09:26:01 PM »
no surprise to see that grand ave west is forest lake's second busiest stop after the main shopping center....at 2pm today there were no less than 6 people waiting there...3 jumped on the 534,2 on the 463 and 1 on the 100buz.
This is a classic crosstown into HF buz style scenario......what we are aiming for with our x-town connectors..

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 09:57:11 AM »
there is a concerning difference between certain outermost stations where they are prioritizing park and ride over other stations that have at least half decent bus services...

namely springfield central & ferny grove vs  kipparing & varsity lakes

in terms of bus tagoffs vs station tagons here is what ive come up with:

springfield central 7.5% bus patronage
ferny grove a dismal 6% bus patronage

yet....

kipparing 40% bus patronage
varsity lakes 35% bus patronage

others of note:

Goodna 20% bus
darra only 9% << clearly needs to be worked on as well...



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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2018, 10:01:37 AM »
Go Goodna!!   :clp: :clp: :clp:  :P

That's very interesting and useful information TB.  Thanks ..
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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2018, 01:19:50 PM »
I think the more interesting things that have been picked up in the map is the trends.

After clicking on a stop, it's possible to view a monthly graph from February 2016 to July 2018 and whilst a lot of stops have gone down there are a few with increase usage. There are some other strange anomalies like paper tickets being higher at Lone Pine and Mt Coot Tha (obviously tourists).

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2018, 01:31:38 PM »
yep tourist spots are standard....same down @ Currumbin with the bird sanctuary & Australia zoo.
In terms of paper tickets in non tourist locations....i have previously been observing that inala/acacia ridge areas seemed to be the worst for paper tickets.....you can visually see that they are excessive.....and the data has pretty much confirmed it.
Its irritating because it slows the buses down...

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2018, 12:07:27 PM »
yep tourist spots are standard....same down @ Currumbin with the bird sanctuary & Australia zoo.
In terms of paper tickets in non tourist locations....i have previously been observing that inala/acacia ridge areas seemed to be the worst for paper tickets.....you can visually see that they are excessive.....and the data has pretty much confirmed it.
Its irritating because it slows the buses down...

Map(s) of the Day... Paper tickets.

https://seqtransit.henrus1.com/other-data/paper-ticket-boardings

The first map is a choropleth map showing the number of Go Card retailers per Suburb.

The second map is the percentage of people boarding with a paper ticket. This percentage is an average across 7 months from January to July 2018.

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 11:55:17 AM »
there is a concerning difference between certain outermost stations where they are prioritizing park and ride over other stations that have at least half decent bus services...

namely springfield central & ferny grove vs  kipparing & varsity lakes

in terms of bus tagoffs vs station tagons here is what ive come up with:

springfield central 7.5% bus patronage
ferny grove a dismal 6% bus patronage

yet....

kipparing 40% bus patronage
varsity lakes 35% bus patronage

others of note:

Goodna 20% bus
darra only 9% << clearly needs to be worked on as well...

Hey TB.  Any chance of a having a look at Altandi please, bus transfer to train and vice versa?

Thanks.
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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2018, 02:11:24 PM »
just took a look for july 2018...

altandi station touch offs 26314
altandi outbound bus stop touch ons 6189


altandi inbound bus touch off 5007
altandi station touch ons 25101

so roughly 20%....same as Goodna.

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2018, 02:15:55 PM »
just took a look for july 2018...

altandi station touch offs 26314
altandi outbound bus stop touch ons 6189


altandi inbound bus touch off 5007
altandi station touch ons 25101

so roughly 20%....same as Goodna.

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 02:55:53 PM »
Is there a chance we could have a map plotting the coverage of high-frequency routes?

As a starting point, I'd like to see 400m isochrones of bus stops on the following Gold Coast routes, even if it is just a plain 400m radius circle:

- The G:
- 700
- 704
- 705
- 713
- 719
- 740
- 750
- 765
- 777

(I don't consider that the TX7 belongs on this list.)

I strongly suspect if the current trends continue, the next Gold Coast high-frequency services will be some combination of (in no particular order) the 735, 745, 747 and 760, so adding those 4 services in would also be an interesting exercise.  Early thinking seems to be the 777 might be rerouted to Varsity Lakes via West Burleigh Road when the tram reaches Burleigh so plotting the  stops on what is currently Route 753 between Varsity Lakes station and Burleigh Heads would also be relevant.
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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2018, 03:40:09 PM »
quick and nasty analysis for non-train-station /non busway park and rides..

month: july 2018
metric: inbound touch ons vs number of spaces @ each park and ride
Gives a basic 'usage rate'


greenbank rsl

6551 t/o / 242 spaces = usage rate of 27.07

klummp rd

2212 t/o / 197 spaces =  11.22

mains rd

13729 / 578 spaces = 23.75

the gap

3363 / 126 spaces = 26.69

jindalee

1820 t/o / 70 spaces = 26


chandler

1113 t/o / 137 spaces = 8.12

slacks creek

2600 / 229 spaces = 11.35

still a long way to go for slacks creek but it is by far the biggest improver out of the rest...an example comparison feb 2016 1544 vs feb 2018.....2515 << massive


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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2018, 06:20:58 PM »
Last week they released the August and September 2018 data. I've updated the map to show these new months.

August was a very high month across the network with some stops seeing the highest usage (since the data started in Feb 2016).

The new map link is located on the main page: https://seqtransit.henrus1.com/


Is there a chance we could have a map plotting the coverage of high-frequency routes?

As a starting point, I'd like to see 400m isochrones of bus stops on the following Gold Coast routes, even if it is just a plain 400m radius circle:

This is an interesting idea and I tried it this afternoon with just the 700 route. Getting access to the stops (locations etc) for each route is not a problem but the mapping is.

The isochrone map data that I used (from Open Street Map) appears to be missing some data (like pedestrian paths) which makes it hard to use. It also took quite a bit of time to process the data (for just one route) so I think if I continue it'll be with radius circles.

Either way here is the map with just the 700 route for the moment:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHQ1mvha0Jk5-AyX68ae3AaQDaRrgQ4p&usp=sharing

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2018, 07:05:20 AM »
Nice.

Plain circles would be fine as it's more for illustration purposes than to measure walkability or anything like that.
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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2018, 01:15:02 PM »
Nice.

Plain circles would be fine as it's more for illustration purposes than to measure walkability or anything like that.

There's more to walkability than a circle around the stop.  Need to take into account local topography like steep hills which can make less mobile people have difficulty accessing the local stops.  Case in point, I used to live in St Lucia which had a very steep incline to get to the bus stop, as my health deteriorated a lot in early 2018, walking up the hill to access the stop (which was about 350m away) was impossible, the only way out was by car for me.  However, when I moved to Eagleby, I'm about 550m from my local stop, but the ability for me to walk to the stop increased dramatically as the walk is mostly flat with only a gentle incline when I'm returning home from the stop.

So even though on paper it might be 350m, in reality, hills etc may make it a massive challenge to access the stop, especially when you have major health issues or are older.

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2018, 01:33:50 PM »
^ Absolutely - quite aware of that.  The issue is that we aren't doing the planning here, so it really only is intended to be a fairly crude measure.  There other big one of course is easements and walkways which connect back-streets to the nearby main road (and also where these don't exist).

Strictly speaking I don't think 400m is a very good be-all-and-end-all metric either - I'm more than 400m from Robina station, but I'm certainly better off than anybody in Robina with a bus stop outside their front door that is only serviced by say the hourly 751 or 752, so quality of service has significant interplay with how far people will walk (and it isn't limited to modal differences like people preferring to walk to a train or tram over a bus stop).  It is however a reasonable one and is widely accepted as having some significance.

The point is more to illustrate roughly the reach of the high frequency network, because they will reveal obvious gaps in a more compelling way than in text - for the Gold Coast, that includes corridors like Southport-Nerang Road, Ferry/Bundall Rd and Bermuda St, anywhere north of Helensvale etc.  For Brisbane you have the classics like Centenary, the northwest, Bulimba, Yeronga, virtually anywhere outside the BCC boundaries except in limited circumstances like the 515, 555 etc.

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2018, 05:05:57 PM »
Nice.

Plain circles would be fine as it's more for illustration purposes than to measure walkability or anything like that.

I'll see what I can do over the weekend (I'd also like to see what Brisbane looks like), circles will be quite easy and all the data (Stop Name, Lon/Lat) is published in the HTML of the translink route pages.

The 400m idea isn't new. In fact a 1998 "Queensland Transport" document (http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Projects/S/Shaping%20up/Pdf_shaping_up.pdf) suggests 800 metres for rail stations, 400 metres for bus stops.

I wonder if people would consider the tram, a rail service and hence 800m circles more appropriate for the G:Link stops?

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2018, 12:46:39 PM »

I wonder if people would consider the tram, a rail service and hence 800m circles more appropriate for the G:Link stops?

The modern thinking AIUI is 800m for frequent rapid transit services (BUZ equivalent, GCLR, frequent rail) and 400m for lesser services.

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2019, 02:45:24 PM »
Since September 2018 no new data has been released, despite this, I've put together some graphs I'd like to share relating to the Ferries, the 66 and the 412 Bus routes.

https://seqtransit.henrus1.com/origin-destination

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2020, 01:48:32 AM »
The new map link is located on the main page: https://seqtransit.henrus1.com/


Thank you so much for the stop data: with it, I've been able to create this
https://imgur.com/a/Za0jfi5

A transit map, styled simply like a metro map, but with lots of information on bus routes and their stops.

Currently a work-in-progress, I wanted to emphasise the relative locations of bus stops in my map, because quite a few have the opposing bus stop 300m down the road. Where you might need to go to transfer to another bus - do you need to walk around the corner and cross the road? This ties in with labelling the Stops A, B, C, D at interchanges, and what bus routes pass them, that information is not quite readily available - even when you get to the stop you might end up looking at each Stop to see which one has your bus.

Also, the frequency of bus routes is another important piece of information: existing network maps view all routes as equal, when they are clearly not and there are many hourly ones only.

Being able to know the name of the stop you're at seems important too - at least when I started drawing the map. I would put in the street that the bus stop was named after, from that information, you can deduce the name of the stop. Some that weren't so obvious, or had different street names, I put in separate labels. There are still many more to fill in, but I've pretty much done the Robina/Clear Island Waters/Mermaid Waters area.

A lot of other things, jam packed in there, and I haven't even started the parks, schools, shopping centres layer, since that is how people can identify where they are, as well as the water layer too.


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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2020, 06:51:25 AM »
Fantastic!
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2020 Update
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2020, 04:25:23 PM »
I'm back with another update using the latest data that now shows up until March 2020.

As per usual the link remains the same:
https://seqtransit.henrus1.com

A few new additions:
  • The dots are now based on the monthly average across a single year instead of a showing a single month - currently the dots are 2019 averages
  • Clicking on the stops and pressing more information now shows a stop rank, percentage of paper tickets, population within 400 meters, routes and trips by time of day
  • The Map now shows the bus routes lines - the thicker the line the more routes (they don't represent the frequency/patronage).

The next update will bring a page for each route showing a similar to the stop pages along with more details about route frequency/usage.

I've made a start however I'm running into problems with the GTFS file (it's not really meant for analysis). The best I've got at the moment is a map showing the number of services per day between stops (aggregated across all routes):
https://flowmap.blue/1hIfHz5LNmiizMAbnUbzCOYt-QqORI4hChUE4dZUQgfs
(Note the accuracy of the above map is terrible and some routes are appearing multiple times).

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2020, 02:57:52 PM »
Love your work :-t
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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2020, 06:28:16 PM »
Thanks for updates henrus1.  Excellent.
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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2020, 01:21:44 PM »
The April 2020 origin destination data came came out recently, graphs on the stop pages have been updated accordingly.

Comparing April 2019 vs April 2020.

On average stops saw a drop of 70%, this is across all ~12500 stops on the SEQ network.

Biggest drops were at theme parks, airports and universities with most seeing drop of 95% or higher. One other stand out was the Slacks Creek Park and ride which also recorded a similar drop in trips.

Amazingly 300 stops recorded higher usage compared to April 2019 although all of these were in suburban areas.

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Re: SEQ Transit Maps
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2020, 11:34:44 PM »
Pretty awesome visualizations.

I'm not sure if I'm just not good with using your map, but is there an easy way to find those 300 stops that have increased when compared to their usage in April 2019?

Just curious if there's something else there in the data - are they a place where people might usually want to travel on the weekend but they can't because services there aren't running on a weekend?
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