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BCC Elections 2020
« on: September 12, 2018, 11:06:40 AM »
Couriermail --> Brisbane mayoral election: Rod Harding gets Labor’s endorsement to run

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FORMER Brisbane Lord Mayoral aspirant Rod Harding will make a second tilt for the city’s top job after he was officially endorsed by the ALP.

Mr Harding squared off against Lord Mayor Graham Quirk in the 2016 election and achieved the best two-party preferred vote of any Labor mayoral candidate since Tim Quinn’s loss to Campbell Newman in 2004.

He confirmed this morning that he had been endorsed by the ALP to run for Lord Mayor again in the 2020 Council elections.

During his previous campaign he promised a light rail system, six months of free rates for first-home buyers and a remodelling of King George Square by adding shade and grass.

He also pledged to slash funding of the Kingsford Smith Dr project to fund congestion busting projects at other suburban hot spots.

Mr Harding secured nearly 32 per cent of the primary vote in 2016 – significantly less than Cr Quirk’s 53.53 per cent.

He has continued to criticise the LNP administration on social media since his loss.
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2018, 12:39:11 PM »
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2018, 02:15:44 PM »
Lets just hope they don't have any more policy brainfarts like "Fare Free Friday"  :fp:
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2018, 11:47:18 AM »
Message #1 for Rod Harding:

No trams! Brisbane's roads are too narrow and busways are too established. Bus network reform please. :is-
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2018, 03:14:14 PM »


Message #1 for Rod Harding:

No trams! Brisbane's roads are too narrow and busways are too established. Bus network reform please. :is-





^^The one line which is suitable for lightrail is the (Kenmore) Indooroopilly - UQ - Westend - South Brisbane - City - Valley -Newstead (Hamilton) Corridor. Series of cut and cover and driven tunnels. UQ want light rail too as part of the long term transport plan. Can be upgraded to driverless at a later stage or straight to driverless?

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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2018, 03:45:32 PM »
^ I hope trams can still figure in some way for Brisbane going forward, even if only to provide a scenic route for visitors like the Rivercats do. Davies Park to Kangaroo Point cliffs would be perfect for trams.

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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2018, 04:01:19 PM »
^ I hope trams can still figure in some way for Brisbane going forward, even if only to provide a scenic route for visitors like the Rivercats do. Davies Park to Kangaroo Point cliffs would be perfect for trams.
City -Valley - Petrie Terrace - City Loop?

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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2018, 04:34:07 PM »
^ sure why not. Trams offer a different aesthetic and character - something Brisbane has lost but can be regained, it’s not too late. And such a loop as you suggest provides scenics which tunnels and metros cannot.  Davies Park, Petrie Terrace and KP Cliffs can eaisly connect with walkways to Lang Park and The Gabba too.

Trams lend themselves well to battery and driverless too.

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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2018, 05:38:13 PM »
I think Rocket Rod needs to move on from light rail. As both Edinburgh and Sydney have demonstrated the difficulty in putting back light rail with unknown and complex utilities etc. is just a costly nightmare.   It was also a problem in the Gold Coast through Surfers Paradise particularly but not on the scale that the other places have seen.  Brisbane streets would be an absolute nightmare in this regard.  Brisbane is too far down the busways ...  The smart thing is get behind the metro, it will be well advanced by the elections.

I think a concept such as local connect buses (distinct from the route buses) to connect suburbs locally could be a winner.  Mid size electric buses.

He can start talking proper metro rail networks.  In fact there is the plan for a Brisbane subway - Toowong to Newstead and use this as a hook.
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2018, 05:43:22 PM »
Lets just hope they don't have any more policy brainfarts like "Fare Free Friday"  :fp:

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That was sad, sad sad sad ...  I even got trolled at the time for calling it out!  Ha!
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2018, 01:11:17 PM »
Understand the ‘metro’ concept is a necessary evil to relieve an ill conceived and constipated CBD. But I don’t think it’s a one size fits for all of Brisbane.

All that concrete... brutal.. In what was once a lovely sub tropical town. Let’s make the city even hotter.

Glad it doesn’t extend too far deep into the Northside.. Southsiders won’t mind I guess - they’re used to freeways over their heads.

Give me light rail, grassed and tree lined, quiet and relaxed any day. In pockets like west end and new farm especially, it makes sense.

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2018, 08:50:35 PM »
Understand the ‘metro’ concept is a necessary evil to relieve an ill conceived and constipated CBD. But I don’t think it’s a one size fits for all of Brisbane.

All that concrete... brutal.. In what was once a lovely sub tropical town. Let’s make the city even hotter.

Glad it doesn’t extend too far deep into the Northside.. Southsiders won’t mind I guess - they’re used to freeways over their heads.

Give me light rail, grassed and tree lined, quiet and relaxed any day. In pockets like west end and new farm especially, it makes sense.

Rail not concrete please mr/ms Lord Mayor

This 'romanticised' concept of light rail really works no better than buses.

Trams in Class C row in some respects are worse than buses. Sure, they have legibility (trams can only go along tram tracks) and visibility (tram tracks = 'oooh there's public transport here'), but they get stuck in the same traffic as buses, have turning circle issues, have differing acceleration/deceleration profiles to rubber-tyred vehicles, and may require an additional traffic light phase a some intersections, causing congestion.

You could feasibly make the metro run down a tree-lined boulevard, the issue being it would need to be bus/metro only. If you look at the Gold Coast, this is what light rail would need to be, and it is hardly known for 'tree-lined boulevards'. In areas with narrow streets like New Farm and West End, it actually makes less sense, as there is no way to get it to work effectively without resuming property - not very community friendly!
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2018, 08:58:53 PM »
Understand the ‘metro’ concept is a necessary evil to relieve an ill conceived and constipated CBD. But I don’t think it’s a one size fits for all of Brisbane.

All that concrete... brutal.. In what was once a lovely sub tropical town. Let’s make the city even hotter.

Glad it doesn’t extend too far deep into the Northside.. Southsiders won’t mind I guess - they’re used to freeways over their heads.

Give me light rail, grassed and tree lined, quiet and relaxed any day. In pockets like west end and new farm especially, it makes sense.

Rail not concrete please mr/ms Lord Mayor
Yes! look at Singapore for example, Good underground metro, but surface streets are less to be desired. If Schrinner is taking the Singapore transport system as one size fits all for Brisbane then we have a problem. Of cause a multi mode can work well in Bne.
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2018, 02:22:00 AM »
Sent to all outlets:

15th September 2018

BCC 2020 Election Contenders - Fix the Buses!

Greetings,

RAIL Back on Track welcomes confirmation that Graham Quirk and Rod Harding will contest the 2020 Brisbane City Council Elections.

RAIL Back on Track is calling on all contenders to tackle reforming Council's bus network.
We want to see bus reform again as the policy focus at the 2020 Brisbane City Council elections.
RAIL Back on Track draws special attention to 'Bus Black Hole' areas of Bulimba, the Centenary suburbs, and Yeronga.

The Great Circle Line bus service, which encircles the entire city, should also be reviewed.
It needs improved frequency, clock-face timetabling, a streamlined route, and optimised stop spacing.
People want to go to the bus stop and know that their bus is coming soon. We think these improvements can be
paid for by optimising and amalgamating Council's existing bus services.

For example, if Route 590 (Garden City - DFO Brisbane Airport) were amalgamated into the Great Circle Line,
we could have buses every 15 minutes between Garden City, Carindale, DFO Brisbane Airport, and Toombul Shopping Centre
at minimal cost.  Currently, the Great Circle Line bus service only operates every half hour during the week,
hourly on Saturdays and not at all on Sundays.  TransLink's own data shows that the Great Circle Line has excellent patronage,
carrying 848,969 passengers in 2016-2017. This is decent patronage, despite the service's many flaws.

Let's see excellent bus policies from all sides come next Council elections. The door is always open at RAIL Back On Track
to any candidate or party who wants to explore the issue.

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References:

Graham Quirk confirms 2020 lord mayoral run
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/graham-quirk-confirms-2020-lord-mayoral-run-20180508-p4ze29.html

Rod Harding to run for Brisbane lord mayor, again
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/rod-harding-to-run-for-brisbane-lord-mayor-again-20180912-p5037l.html

Great Circle Line Bus Service
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/170109-598,599.pdf
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2018, 02:26:33 AM »
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Re: BCC Elections 2020
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2018, 02:29:24 AM »


https://twitter.com/Robert_Dow/status/1041725628683182080
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