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Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« on: March 19, 2018, 06:04:47 PM »
https://yoursay.brisbane.qld.gov.au/TP4B?tool=survey_tool&tool_id=feedback-form&utm_source=tw_transport_plan_for_brisbane_video_19mar2018&utm_medium=social&utm_content=social_transport_plan_for_brisbane#tool_tab

Last chance to have your say on Brisbane’s transport future

Brisbane City Council has released the new Draft Transport Plan for Brisbane – Strategic Directions to guide the evolution of Brisbane’s transport network over the next 25 years and beyond.

Learn more about the draft Plan or download a copy now.

You can have your say on the draft plan and help shape the future of Brisbane’s transport networks by submitting your feedback in a number of ways:

    Complete the feedback form
    Place your vote in the quick poll
    Answer our five minute survey
    Submit an idea for what Brisbane’s transport future will look like by 2041.

From now until midnight on 30 March 2018, Council will also be speaking with members of the community and industry to receive your feedback in person. Find out where you can come and to talk to us.

We value your input and look forward to hearing from you.

The final transport plan will be released this year after reviewing and considering feedback received during the consultation period.
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Re: Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 06:08:28 PM »
https://twitter.com/brisbanecityqld/status/975643306351906817
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Re: Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2018, 02:10:44 AM »
Brisbanetimes --> Brisbane's draft transport too bus-centric, says industry

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Brisbane City Council has been called out for not considering transport costs, mass-transit systems and drones in its plans for the city’s transport future.

BDA the Committee for Brisbane, an independent not-for-profit committee focusing on industry and community development, said, in its submission, the council’s Draft Transport Plan for Brisbane lacked detail and needed to be revised.

The draft plan, released in December 2017, was to replace the council’s last transport plan which was released in 2008.

In the lord mayor’s message on the plan, he said the transport plan would guide the evolution of the city’s transport network over the next 25 years and beyond.

“As Brisbane continues to grow and evolve, we need to take a more innovative and visionary approach to transport planning,” his message said.

The BDA submission said while the organisation supported the council in developing the plan it needed several changes, including greater detail on transport cost.

“While transport choice is addressed quite comprehensively, cost is given scant attention,” the submission said.

“If the plan simply places such matters in the ‘too hard basket’ (as has happened too frequently in the past) a significant opportunity to improve the city will be lost.”

Council's infrastructure chairman Amanda Cooper said the council was reviewing submissions made on the draft plan.

“As Brisbane continues to grow, it is important that our city is planning for future transport opportunities so that infrastructure can keep pace with demand,” Cr Cooper said.

“Council recognises the importance of taking a more innovative approach to transport planning so we can balance public, private and active transport while enhancing the livability of our city.”

The submission also said the draft plan was not as detailed as it needed to be and should consider the inclusion of a true mass-transit system.

“A sole, or even primary, reliance on buses and their variants in addressing future public transport needs is considered problematic and likely to fail our best possible mass transit future,” the submission said.

“Whilst accepting that this will principally be the domain of state government, this omission and the lack of coordination in delivering such vital infrastructure is a notable and unsustainable deficiency in the plan.”

BDA questioned why the draft plan lacked emphasis on disruptive technologies in the transport sector and encouraged the council to detail the council’s ability and agility to cope with things like drones as an alternative transport mode, electric and automated vehicles and the shared vehicle economy.

Cr Cooper acknowledged several submission discussed the potential for drone potential and said the council recognised the importance of taking a more innovative approach to transport planning to balance public and private and active transport while enhancing the city’s livability.

The plan currently looks ahead 25 years, but the BDA submission recommended extending the planning horizon to 40-50 years.

“Major transport projects can take many decades to deliver from the initial concept, so it’s important that we, as a city, take this opportunity afforded by the Transport Plan to take a longer-term view and dream big about the aspirations for a better Brisbane,” the submission said.

The BDA submission noted the draft plan did not provide sufficient context to how the plan would be staged, funded and delivered and encouraged the council to provide implementation and delivery specifics.

Cr Cooper said it was important to create opportunities for people to live, work and relax within their own communities.

“Council has been focused on developing specialised knowledge and industry precincts across the city, which would attract investment, foster innovation and encourage tourism," she said.

“Improved public transport through projects like the Brisbane Metro will also help make 30-minute cities a future reality for Brisbane.”

The consultation period for the draft plan has closed, but submissions will be accepted until April 30.

The transport plan is anticipated to be released mid-year.
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Re: Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 01:42:54 PM »
 :-w wonders never cease....COULD it be, that finally.....in "Brissy"....people are starting to see through cheap/short-term visionless "visions".......COULD it be, that finally.....in "Brissy".....people are no-long getting "excited" over simply watching the wheels on the bus go round and round......and want something......something.......more????

I need to sit down.....heart racing......thumping in my head......could it be.....people.....in "Brissy"..... about 155 YEARS after the great city of London first opened an underground tube.....that they are slowly coming to appreciate......you could with modern engineering capabilities......put underground capacity through more of this WORLD CLASS*.....WORLD CITY*......"Brissy"........I really need a  :cc: to relax........next thing, I'll be reading someone's going to come out and actually propose a series of metro lines, put through high-density inner city regions....maybe even, really add some value to the proposed CRR and take it underground [in part] down to Beenleigh and drag the Brissy/GC link into the 21stC   :lo

 :o Going to have to take it easy.......moving into.....unheard of territory for "Brissy"......seems the wheels on the bus going round...and round.....might no-longer be enough.....

The "4 Step" 10-15yr plan to an Awesome SE Qld

1) Brisbane/Beenleeigh New HighER Speed Corridor for GC services - free-up current suburban line for classic "local" services. Limited 3/4 interim stops in major new businesses/housing/social transit hubs along the way - think Macquarie Park type planning in Sydney. Private sector would salivate at the opportunities here ie, PPP to help with funding VALUE-Adder for CRR Phase II

2) North Coast HighER Speed line - already out there as a concept being driven by private sector, only person who seemed to struggle with it....current Qld Premier!   :yikes: Another potential PPP driven project

3) Ipswich/Toowoomba HighER Speed line - HUGE Value Adder for SEQ - Toowoomba set to boom and can take real housing cost pressure off coastal SEQ.

4) Brisbane inner-city region Metro......the bus wheels just won't do it! Huge PPP opportunities

*Anyone doubt the WORLD CLASS/WORLD CITY claims made...just read State Govt/BCC Letterheads....it says so....  ;)



If urban rail was a sports stadium - there'd be a station on every corner!  Keep it LOUD for Pro-Rail!  :pr

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Re: Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 02:28:51 PM »
I recall about 20 years ago there were some plans (vague suggestions?) for Toowoomba to have an underground commuter railway station -- something like 20 floors below ground level so that passenger trains did not have to grind their way up the Great Dividing Range to the top.  They must exist in some bureaucrat's drawer

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Re: Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2018, 09:38:07 AM »
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/queensland/queensland-s-economy-on-the-way-up-as-interstate-migrants-flee-sydney-20180422-p4zb1q.html

this was always going to happen....due to housing affordability in that ripoff dump of a city.
Unfortunately SEQ is not ready for this influx.
You can already see the stress on the roads now....only going to get worse as the roadworks ramp up which will see the main arterials cave.....not looking good for buses at all...

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Re: Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2018, 09:56:22 AM »
Fair call TB.  A number of significant congestion related delays on bus reported by TransLink this morning for example. 

Expect a lot more not reported too!
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Re: Transport Plan for Brisbane - Strategic Directions
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2018, 10:19:57 PM »
:-w wonders never cease....COULD it be, that finally.....in "Brissy"....people are starting to see through cheap/short-term visionless "visions".......COULD it be, that finally.....in "Brissy".....people are no-long getting "excited" over simply watching the wheels on the bus go round and round......and want something......something.......more????

I need to sit down.....heart racing......thumping in my head......could it be.....people.....in "Brissy"..... about 155 YEARS after the great city of London first opened an underground tube.....that they are slowly coming to appreciate......you could with modern engineering capabilities......put underground capacity through more of this WORLD CLASS*.....WORLD CITY*......"Brissy"........I really need a  :cc: to relax........next thing, I'll be reading someone's going to come out and actually propose a series of metro lines, put through high-density inner city regions....maybe even, really add some value to the proposed CRR and take it underground [in part] down to Beenleigh and drag the Brissy/GC link into the 21stC   :lo

 :o Going to have to take it easy.......moving into.....unheard of territory for "Brissy"......seems the wheels on the bus going round...and round.....might no-longer be enough.....

The "4 Step" 10-15yr plan to an Awesome SE Qld

1) Brisbane/Beenleeigh New HighER Speed Corridor for GC services - free-up current suburban line for classic "local" services. Limited 3/4 interim stops in major new businesses/housing/social transit hubs along the way - think Macquarie Park type planning in Sydney. Private sector would salivate at the opportunities here ie, PPP to help with funding VALUE-Adder for CRR Phase II

2) North Coast HighER Speed line - already out there as a concept being driven by private sector, only person who seemed to struggle with it....current Qld Premier!   :yikes: Another potential PPP driven project

3) Ipswich/Toowoomba HighER Speed line - HUGE Value Adder for SEQ - Toowoomba set to boom and can take real housing cost pressure off coastal SEQ.

4) Brisbane inner-city region Metro......the bus wheels just won't do it! Huge PPP opportunities

*Anyone doubt the WORLD CLASS/WORLD CITY claims made...just read State Govt/BCC Letterheads....it says so....  ;)



Brisbanetimes --> Brisbane's draft transport too bus-centric, says industry

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Brisbane City Council has been called out for not considering transport costs, mass-transit systems and drones in its plans for the city’s transport future.

BDA the Committee for Brisbane, an independent not-for-profit committee focusing on industry and community development, said, in its submission, the council’s Draft Transport Plan for Brisbane lacked detail and needed to be revised.

The draft plan, released in December 2017, was to replace the council’s last transport plan which was released in 2008.

In the lord mayor’s message on the plan, he said the transport plan would guide the evolution of the city’s transport network over the next 25 years and beyond.

“As Brisbane continues to grow and evolve, we need to take a more innovative and visionary approach to transport planning,” his message said.

The BDA submission said while the organisation supported the council in developing the plan it needed several changes, including greater detail on transport cost.

“While transport choice is addressed quite comprehensively, cost is given scant attention,” the submission said.

“If the plan simply places such matters in the ‘too hard basket’ (as has happened too frequently in the past) a significant opportunity to improve the city will be lost.”

Council's infrastructure chairman Amanda Cooper said the council was reviewing submissions made on the draft plan.

“As Brisbane continues to grow, it is important that our city is planning for future transport opportunities so that infrastructure can keep pace with demand,” Cr Cooper said.

“Council recognises the importance of taking a more innovative approach to transport planning so we can balance public, private and active transport while enhancing the livability of our city.”

The submission also said the draft plan was not as detailed as it needed to be and should consider the inclusion of a true mass-transit system.

“A sole, or even primary, reliance on buses and their variants in addressing future public transport needs is considered problematic and likely to fail our best possible mass transit future,” the submission said.

“Whilst accepting that this will principally be the domain of state government, this omission and the lack of coordination in delivering such vital infrastructure is a notable and unsustainable deficiency in the plan.”

BDA questioned why the draft plan lacked emphasis on disruptive technologies in the transport sector and encouraged the council to detail the council’s ability and agility to cope with things like drones as an alternative transport mode, electric and automated vehicles and the shared vehicle economy.

Cr Cooper acknowledged several submission discussed the potential for drone potential and said the council recognised the importance of taking a more innovative approach to transport planning to balance public and private and active transport while enhancing the city’s livability.

The plan currently looks ahead 25 years, but the BDA submission recommended extending the planning horizon to 40-50 years.

“Major transport projects can take many decades to deliver from the initial concept, so it’s important that we, as a city, take this opportunity afforded by the Transport Plan to take a longer-term view and dream big about the aspirations for a better Brisbane,” the submission said.

The BDA submission noted the draft plan did not provide sufficient context to how the plan would be staged, funded and delivered and encouraged the council to provide implementation and delivery specifics.

Cr Cooper said it was important to create opportunities for people to live, work and relax within their own communities.

“Council has been focused on developing specialised knowledge and industry precincts across the city, which would attract investment, foster innovation and encourage tourism," she said.

“Improved public transport through projects like the Brisbane Metro will also help make 30-minute cities a future reality for Brisbane.”

The consultation period for the draft plan has closed, but submissions will be accepted until April 30.

The transport plan is anticipated to be released mid-year.


^^Rosewood to Toowoomba line planning now. Two tracks Dual guage track (electrified) working with inland rail to bring the project forward.

Sunnycoast line duplication is inevitable. I guess this will happen prior to 2024.

Mass Transit Corridor identification and planning now! Kenmore via Indooroopilly UQ, West end, City

Eastern and Northern Mass Transit Corridors.

^^Council must look at Driverless Metro for these corridors

Plan and move to Driver Only trains on the train network.

Coronation Drive - it's becoming a 24/7 carpark - Tunnel from PA to Toowong (entry/exits here) then connect the M3 with the M5 Centenary Hwy. Good bye Rex!
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