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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 11:14:43 AM »
I really hate these extended christmas services as they are just for political gain.   Nightlink services IMO should be any everyday thing. 

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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 02:31:03 PM »
I really hate these extended christmas services as they are just for political gain.   Nightlink services IMO should be any everyday thing.

I think that's a mischaracterisation on both counts.

Christmas time features extending trading hours for the week leading up to Christmas, including trading up until midnight on the 23rd, as well as a lot more people doing shopping (for obvious reasons). Car parking at the major shopping centres is often at breaking point, or requires one to park almost a kilometre away. Providing extra services to encourage people on to PT should be considered a good thing. The weeks leading up to Christmas also have the inevitable Christmas parties & end of year bashes, hence there is higher demand for transport. Putting on extra NightLink services makes the service more attractive than taxis (compared to rest of the year), where the expense would otherwise be prohibitive to run the services half-hourly all year.

Now compare this to the weeks after Christmas. Demand plummets. People go on holiday. Credit cards are recovering from the pre-Christmas binge. The shops are no longer open after 9pm, and the non-anchor stores are no longer opening past 5:30pm. As a pro-PT lobby group, we should be thankful for the addition of extra services in an effort to reduce the load on car parks and reduce incidents of drink driving.
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 02:58:50 PM »
These extended ' Christmas shopper ' bus services are used and useful.   Imagine some extra train services ?   :pfy:  :dntk

No doubt there will be a ' Christmas New Year Minimal Rail Service Timetable ' yet again, which will morph into the Summer School Holiday reduced service timetable.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2017, 01:04:56 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 01:29:16 PM »
Notice just released:

Queensland Rail is working hard to train more drivers and guards, but our network is still subject to high stress periods, where we need to make changes to ensure we provide reliable services, including over the summer holiday period.

From 18 December to 21 January, service changes will be in place reflecting reduced patronage and supporting reliable service delivery over the Christmas period. Train patronage traditionally drops by about 25% during the festive period.

A lot of work has gone into ensuring the timetable is reliable and sustainable – we know some customers will experience changes, but we are focused on making sure we can deliver services safely and reliably during the summer school holiday period.

Service changes include:

    Services will run every 15 minutes on most lines during peak times, with additional services on most lines during core morning peak.

    Services every 30 minutes off peak and on weekends on most lines.

    Hourly services from 23 – 26, 30 December and 1 January.

    On New Year’s Eve, hourly services will run on most lines up until 5.00pm, when services will ramp up to half hourly, with additional services to manage crowds following the 8.00pm and midnight fireworks.

    The only exceptions are the Sunshine Coast, Doomben and Rosewood lines which will have slightly less frequent services based on patronage.

    Based on customer feedback, we have improved our summer holiday timetable to have more morning peak services and align better with bus connections.


Above all, we are encouraging our customers to plan their journey in advance and visit the journey planner at TransLink.com.au or call 13 12 30 anytime.

 
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2017, 01:33:24 PM »
Bloody terrible. Bad enough when you have to work through Xmas and New Year. Even worse when peak services are axed, off peak services halved, and hourly trains on many days. Even worse than last year!

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2017, 01:34:55 PM »
Media Release Queensland Rail

Monday, 4 December 2017

Queensland Rail summer service

From Monday 18 December 2017 to Sunday 21 January 2018, Queensland Rail’s summer
timetable will come into effect across South East Queensland with a number of temporary
service changes.

Queensland Rail Chief Executive Officer Nick Easy encouraged customers travelling during
this period to check the TransLink Journey Planner to plan ahead, as departure times would
be changing.

“Throughout the summer period, when we usually experience a 25 per cent drop in
patronage, trains will run every 15 minutes or better on most lines during peak times, with
trains every 30 minutes in off peak and weekends,” Mr Easy said.

“This summer timetable reflects the changed customer needs during this period, with
patronage declining by as much as a quarter during the festive season compared to the nonholiday period.
“Throughout the Christmas and New Year period, hourly services will operate on most lines
from Saturday 23 to Tuesday 26 December and on Saturday, 30 December and Monday, 1
January.

“On New Year’s Eve, hourly services will run on most lines up until 5.00pm, when services
will ramp up to half hourly, with additional services to manage crowds departing South
Brisbane and South Bank stations following the 8.00pm and midnight fireworks.
“The only exceptions are Sunshine Coast, Doomben and Rosewood lines which will have
slightly less frequent services based on customer demand.

“As we continue to work hard to recruit and train more drivers and guards, our timetable
sustainability assessments have previously identified the summer holiday period as a stress
point that required proactive management.

“That’s why we’ve proactively planned for these service changes, to ensure we’re providing a
reliable service for our customers during the summer holidays, and effectively deploying our
resources to meet reduced demand.”

Mr Easy said Queensland Rail’s service planning team had listened to feedback from
customers during the summer service changes last year, and incorporated a range of
improvements into this year’s operations.

“We’ve introduced an additional 90 services, compared with the summer school holiday
timetable in 2016, including an extra 15 daily morning peak services targeted to meet
demand. This will mean morning peak services will run every 15 minutes or better on most
lines,” he said.

“We’re also introducing consistent services Monday to Friday, so our customers won’t have
to experience separate arrangements when travelling on a Friday.

“The summer service changes also utilise less three-carriage services, maintain bus
connectivity, and introduce consistent clock-face departure times, to make our services
easier for customers to catch.


“I’d like to thank our customers for their understanding during the temporary summer service
changes, and encourage them to plan ahead by visiting www.translink.com.au or calling 13
12 30 anytime.”

ENDS

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Bit better than last years shambles, still far from ideal but that is #railfail for you!   :P

I am off to Perth on the 16th Dec.  Off peak is 15 minutes over there hey?  ...  :bg:
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2017, 01:39:17 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2017, 02:10:17 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2017, 02:17:36 PM »
Let’s hope printed timetables are forthcoming! Looks like counter peak services through South Bank (which can be very busy) have been reduced by more than 50%.  :steam:

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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 02:27:00 PM »
Queensland Rail summer service changes

>> https://translink.com.au/service-updates/159071


PDFs are available.  Follow the links to lines.  All are listed.

Eg.  https://jp.translink.com.au/plan-your-journey/timetables/train/T/beenleigh-line
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2017, 03:05:31 PM »
Printable timetables

Airport

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Gold Coast and Airport line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December
2017 (PDF, 563 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-gold-coast-airport.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Gold Coast and Airport line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30
December 2017 (PDF, 564 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-gold-coast-airport.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

New: Gold Coast and Airport line (PDF, 600 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-gold-coast-airport.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

Beenleigh

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Beenleigh line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017 (PDF,
551 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-beenleigh.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Beenleigh line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December 2017
(PDF, 564 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-beenleigh.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Beenleigh line (PDF, 650 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-beenleigh.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

Caboolture

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Caboolture and Sunshine Coast line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26
December 2017 (PDF, 568 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-caboolture-sunshine-coast.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Caboolture and Sunshine Coast line - Special Saturday timetable 23
& 30 December 2017 (PDF, 574 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-caboolture-sunshine-coast.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Caboolture line (PDF, 597 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-caboolture.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

Cleveland

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Cleveland line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017 (PDF,
549 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-cleveland.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Cleveland line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December 2017
(PDF, 555 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-cleveland.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Cleveland line (PDF, 652 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-cleveland.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

Doomben

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Doomben line (PDF, 541 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-doomben.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

Ferny Grove

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Ferny Grove line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017 (PDF,
535 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-ferny-grove.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Ferny Grove line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December 2017
(PDF, 540 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-ferny-grove.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Ferny Grove line (PDF, 594 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-ferny-grove.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

Gold Coast

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Gold Coast and Airport line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December
2017 (PDF, 563 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-gold-coast-airport.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Gold Coast and Airport line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30
December 2017 (PDF, 564 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-gold-coast-airport.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Gold Coast and Airport line (PDF, 600 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-gold-coast-airport.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017

Ipswich/Rosewood

New: Ipswich and Rosewood line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December
2017 (PDF, 567 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-ipswich-rosewood.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Ipswich and Rosewood line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30
December 2017 (PDF, 568 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-ipswich-rosewood.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Ipswich and Rosewood line (PDF, 695 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-ipswich-rosewood.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

New: Ipswich and Rosewood line (PDF, 695 KB)
Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-ipswich-rosewood.pdf


Redcliffe Peninsula

New: Redcliffe Peninsula line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December
2017 (PDF, 550 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-redcliffe-peninsula.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Redcliffe Peninsula line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30
December 2017 (PDF, 556 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-redcliffe-peninsula.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Redcliffe Peninsula line (PDF, 627 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-redcliffe-peninsula.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

New: Redcliffe Peninsula line (PDF, 627 KB)
Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-redcliffe-peninsula.pdf

Shorncliffe

New: Shorncliffe line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017 (PDF,
554 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-shorncliffe.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Shorncliffe line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December 2017
(PDF, 556 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-shorncliffe.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Shorncliffe line (PDF, 607 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-shorncliffe.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

New: Shorncliffe line (PDF, 607 KB)
Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-shorncliffe.pdf

Springfield

New: Springfield line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017 (PDF,
543 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-springfield.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Springfield line - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December 2017
(PDF, 543 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-springfield.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Springfield line (PDF, 591 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-springfield.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

New: Springfield line (PDF, 591 KB)
Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-springfield.pdf

Sunshine Coast

New: Inner city stations - Special timetable 24, 25, 26 December 2017
(PDF, 608 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Caboolture and Sunshine Coast line - Special timetable 24, 25, 26
December 2017 (PDF, 568 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171224-caboolture-sunshine-coast.pdf

Effective from Sunday 24 December 2017
New: Inner city stations - Special Saturday timetable 23 & 30 December
2017 (PDF, 708 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-inner-city.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Caboolture and Sunshine Coast line - Special Saturday timetable 23
& 30 December 2017 (PDF, 574 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171223-caboolture-sunshine-coast.pdf

Effective from Saturday 23 December 2017
New: Sunshine Coast line (PDF, 677 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-sunshine-coast.pdf

Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
New: Inner city stations (PDF, 981 KB)
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-inner-city.pdf

New: Sunshine Coast line (PDF, 677 KB)
Effective from Monday 18 December 2017
https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/assets/timetables/171218-sunshine-coast.pdf
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2017, 04:00:36 PM »
^ righto.  Everyone got that?   :P :frs:
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Re: Christmas 2017 & New Year timetables & Summer School Holidays 2017/18
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2017, 04:04:21 PM »
Think we should be calling for off-peak fares during this period of service reduction!

Have already spoken to hospital workers at PAH, LCCH, and Mater who will struggle to get to work on early shifts where service cuts are the worst.

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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2017, 04:18:57 PM »
Think we should be calling for off-peak fares during this period of service reduction!

Have already spoken to hospital workers at PAH, LCCH, and Mater who will struggle to get to work on early shifts where service cuts are the worst.

I think we need to wait to see who will be Transport Minister and then go for it.  Should know in a few days. 

Lot of folks not happy.

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The release from Queensland Rail is pathetic.  Even after all this time, they are trying to spin that the changes are about reduced demand rather than industrial f%ckups.

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2017, 05:34:36 PM »
The MoveQLD tweet is incorrect. In the UK, ALL rail shuts down completely on Christmas day with only very limited servoces operating on Boxing day. Doesn't make the QR situation any better, but it still could be worse!

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The MoveQLD tweet is incorrect. In the UK, ALL rail shuts down completely on Christmas day with only very limited servoces operating on Boxing day. Doesn't make the QR situation any better, but it still could be worse!

Yo.  Rather a funny one that.  Certainly doesn't happen on our rail systems.
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2017, 06:33:58 PM »
people heading from Brisbane airport to GC will just drive.....why would they twiddle their thumbs at airport/central/roma st for 30 minutes when they could be as far as springwood in the same amount of time using a car....

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2017, 08:08:45 PM »
https://twitter.com/Jeffrey_Addison/status/937617478561161217
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QR's Summer of Hell (Again)
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QR's Summer of Hell (Again)
https://brizcommuter.blogspot.com.au/2017/12/qrs-summer-of-hell-again.html

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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2017, 02:13:22 AM »
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Off peak peak service - off peak fares only!

Good Morning,

The Queensland Rail summer service changes 18 Dec 2017 through to 21 Jan 2018 were released publicly yesterday.
https://translink.com.au/service-updates/159071

It is very sad to see the level of service reduction that Queensland Rail delivers because of the compounding issues with rail fail.

This reduced service timetable just forces more and more onto the already dangerous and congested roads.

The Sunshine Coast has been treated very poorly once again.  At a time when we should be supporting safe rail travel, what is left is a reduced service that is anti-community.

For example,  on the Sunshine Coast Line there was 359 weekly services Jan 2015, this reduced to 320 Jan 2017, and now in the latest Summer timetable further reduced to 235 ( https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=12983.msg201328#msg201328 ) What a terrible outcome for SEQ. Other lines show similar service reductions

The rail timetables over the period 18 December 2017 until 21 January 2018 are such a reduction in service that fares for this entire period should be OFF PEAK ONLY.  It is essentially an off peak service during peaks with further service reductions out of peak, making it very difficult to use.

We call on the incoming Government to direct the transport authorities to set the fare system so that ONLY OFF PEAK FARES are charged for this  rail failure for the period 18 Dec 2017 through to the 21 Jan 2018.

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https://brizcommuter.blogspot.com.au/2017/12/qrs-summer-of-hell-again.html

Queensland Rail is a government-owned public operator. Have you tried (tongue in cheek):

1. Changing the entire government with your 1 vote at an election by voting for the "right" politicians to fix it?

2. Writing a "letter of concern" to your local MP/transport minister/QR CEO so that they suddenly spring into action and make the fixes?

3. Donating (or refraining from) to a politician's (re-)election campaign to draw attention to the problem?

On a more serious note, time for rail services to be considered for open tender, initial steps come January.  :is-

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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2017, 08:00:30 AM »
431 days into #railfail one would hope that things would improve.  They don't, they are just getting worse.

LNP really mishandled the opportunities presented by #railfail in the campaign.  I wasn't going to give them notes because I wanted Cross River Rail to continue.   They are more incompetent than the present clowns, sad fact.  So looks like we are stuck with the least mediocre Govt albeit very mediocre themselves..  Mediocrity will no doubt continue.  Can't wait for #GC2018 - what a giant cluster-fuk that is going to be transport wise throughout SEQ.  Games will be OK, it is the rest of the network that will be disconnected, and dysfunctional.

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431 days into #railfail one would hope that things would improve.  They don't, they are just getting worse.

LNP really mishandled the opportunities presented by #railfail in the campaign.  I wasn't going to give them notes because I wanted Cross River Rail to continue.   They are more incompetent than the present clowns, sad fact.  So looks like we are stuck with the least mediocre Govt albeit very mediocre themselves..  Mediocrity will no doubt continue.  Can't wait for #GC2018 - what a giant cluster-fuk that is going to be transport wise throughout SEQ.  Games will be OK, it is the rest of the network that will be disconnected, and dysfunctional.

I really hope The Greens win Maiwar and that AP has to do a coalition deal with them. Then they can take the transport portfolio.

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« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2017, 08:14:48 AM »
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forget it.....LABOR == UNIONS == Heavy support from within the current QR.....
what part of that don't you understand......its not going to happen now...
I was previously open to the idea....IF the LNP was voted in....there was a strong chance of it happening.
That all changes now.......be happy that labor won and CRR is going ahead.......but give it a rest on the privatization/tendering....
I previously warned you way back just after anna.p was voted in that she will do nothing on BT because of labors ties and support with the RTBU........
I was right....you were naieve......and it seems you still might be.....

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forget it.....LABOR == UNIONS == Heavy support from within the current QR.....
what part of that don't you understand......its not going to happen now...
I was previously open to the idea....IF the LNP was voted in....there was a strong chance of it happening.
That all changes now.......be happy that labor won and CRR is going ahead.......but give it a rest on the privatization/tendering....
I previously warned you way back just after anna.p was voted in that she will do nothing on BT because of labors ties and support with the RBTU........
I was right....you were naieve......and it seems you still might be.....

You are right on that count. Though The Greens are very good at building community-level support, they really excel at that.

Indeed, I think they are possibly the only people capable of neutralising a bus review scare campaign at the face-to-face community level.

It is to their credit that they have chosen to run on a bus reform platform - in previous years it was "convert everything to light rail for $60 BN" or something along those lines. Much more hope now.

Give them a go, nothing else has worked so far. Can't hurt.

PS: Emerson was happy to reorganise the Gold Coast bus network for the light rail, but IMHO he was not happy to re-organise the Brisbane bus

network around the railway line because... one of the largest areas impacted was his own Indooroopilly electorate!

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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2017, 08:49:55 AM »
Lots of very angry work colleagues (who travel to South Bank) over the changes. Early am counter peak service through South Brisbane is appalling. 75% of ex Ferny Grove starting services in the early am peak are now terminating at Roma Street or have been axed completely.

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PS: Emerson was happy to reorganise the Gold Coast bus network for the light rail, but IMHO he was not happy to re-organise the Brisbane bus network around the railway line because... one of the largest areas impacted was his own Indooroopilly electorate!
you are 'conveniently' leaving out competitive tendering by emerson/newman which would have gone a long way to reducing BCC`s stronghold on bus services.......ironic you left it out when your pushing for QR`s stronghold to be released.
Greens are a faint hope at best....no deals will be done Brisbane wide......theres not enough pull from just one member from maiwar(new seat)......they would have more pull if they had of won south Brisbane and ousted trad....locally though for centenary there is a good chance of better services....


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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2017, 09:20:40 AM »
Bottom line on this subject - we all knew this was coming, but if it is repeated in 2018 the government will be crucified.

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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2017, 09:43:07 AM »
A year can make a difference......the big unknown is the state of the trains........hence the biggest threat for this years xmas timetable is if trains break down or other mechanical issues....potentially turning a 1 hour trip into 2 hours due to a missed bus connection...
What I don't get is how they can continue to shaft gold coast/sunny coast services when those 2 places go absolutely bonkers between xmas and new year

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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2017, 09:54:52 AM »
Seems to be one or two mechanical failures most days.   Hopefully they can roster the more reliable units.  It is grim when it gets down this.

NGRs are still a way off yet ..

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Brisbanetimes --> Less frequent train services planned for festive month

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Trains will run less frequently for 35 days over the summer holiday season to manage a "stress point" on the network.

Queensland Rail has regularly introduced scaled-back timetables during school holidays, following mass cancellations plagued the network after the opening of the Redcliffe Peninsula Line in October 2016.

From Monday, December 18 to Sunday, January 21, the QR summer timetable will include 15-minute or better frequency on most lines during peak periods and every 30 minutes during off-peak and weekends.

From December 23 to 26, and December 30 to January 1, hourly services will operate on most lines.

On New Year's Eve, hourly services will run on most lines up until 5pm, when services will start running half-hourly, with additional services to manage crowds leaving South Brisbane and South Bank stations following the 8pm and midnight fireworks.

However, the Sunshine Coast, Doomben and Rosewood lines will have less frequent services.

QR chief executive Nick Easy said as the operator continued to work to recruit and train more drivers and guards, timetable sustainability assessments had identified the summer holiday period as a "stress point" that required proactive management.

"That's why we've proactively planned for these service changes, to ensure we're providing a reliable service for our customers during the summer holidays, and effectively deploying our resources to meet reduced demand," he said.

Mr Easy said the service planning team had listened to feedback during the summer service changes last year, and introduced an extra 90 services into this year's summer timetable compared with the 2016 summer timetable.

"Including an extra 15 daily morning peak services targeted to meet demand," he said.

Services will also remain consistent between Monday to Friday, so passengers do not have to work out different timetables on a Friday.

"The summer service changes also utilise less three-carriage services, maintain bus connectivity and introduce consistent clock-face departure times, to make our services easier for customers to catch," he said.

Mr Easy said during the summer festive season, the network experienced a 25 per cent drop in patronage.

"Trains will run every 15 minutes or better on most lines during peak times, with trains every 30 minutes in off-peak and weekends," Mr Easy said.

Meanwhile, a TransLink spokesman said the much-delayed New Generation Rollingstock trains would start passenger services on the Gold Coast and Airport lines in coming weeks.

"Additional heavy rail services will operate on the Gold Coast line to support the 2018 Gold Coast Commonwealth Games during peak spectator travel periods," he said.

"The number of NGR trains available for this is dependent on timetable requirements, as well as the number of trains that have passed rigorous safety testing and have been accepted by the state."

In September, Deputy Premier Jackie Trad announced the government would officially "accept" the first of the NGR trains, about two years after they arrived in the country, with the expectation they could be used by commuters in November or December.

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Queensland Times --> Train services slashed on Ipswich lines



RAIL FAIL: Raceview resident Benjamin Hayes says reduced services over the summer and Christmas period is "ridiculous". Helen Spelitis

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TRAIN services for Ipswich commuters have been slashed in the new summer timetable.

On the Ipswich line, trains usually leave Ipswich train station every 30 minutes but that will drop back to hourly services for most of the month, from December 23.

On the Rosewood line trains will still leave every hour but there will be no through services, meaning passengers will have to change at Ipswich Station.

Queensland Rail said the reduction in services coincides with a low passenger demand period on the affected lines.

But Raceview resident Benjamin Hayes, and Goodna based rail advocate Robert Dow, agreed the services slash was 'ridiculous'.

Mr Hayes, who usually works in hospitality, said the lack of services would be crippling for anyone reliant on public transport hoping to pick up extra shifts in Brisbane during the busy Christmas period.

"In light of how good our services have been in the past it's reprehensible that any government has allowed the network to be reduced to this,” Mr Hayes said.

Sunshine Coast services will be reduced to once every two hours on some days.

Queensland Rail CEO Nick Easy said the timetable was proactive planning and resources were deployed to meet demand.
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Does everybody in Brisbane finish up at work a week before Christmas, and not go back until it's nearly Australia Day or something?
Seems it LoL! QR has no option and needs to keep exorbitant wage costs down. Which was signed earlier this year. QR really needs to work towards driver only operation making higher frequency service of trains more affordable, especially off-peak.

Trains seem to be run like planes in Qld. (Two crew per train, customer service staff "NGR" and security staff). There is no way a higher frequency off-peak services can be sustainable without moving to Driver Only Operations.

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