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Media release 4th April 2017

SEQ: Call for free travel 8/9th April and Easter 2017 for SEQ public transport

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has called for free rail travel on the SEQ public transport for the reduced service Queensland Rail Easter and School holiday timetable.

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"A new low point in mediocrity for SEQ public transport has been reached with the proposed Queensland Rail Easter and school holiday timetable.  Not only has train service frequency been reduced to hourly, two hourly on the Sunshine Coast Line, but the timetable moves train times from the standard, well established clock face timings, and in so doing wrecking bus/rail connections."

"The outer bus timetables are based on the standard clock face timings for rail.  Change the rail times arbitrarily the integrated network collapses.  There will often be very long waits for people to use the network.  Under these circumstances travel should be free, as the travelling public is being punished for Queensland Rail's inability to deliver a proper service level."

"For some examples of the impact of the non-standard timings for this proposed rail timetable see below.  This proposed reduced rail service timetable is putting public transport back decades in SEQ.  It is not acceptable. People will struggle to get around, why should they pay fares for this very poor service?  The worst in Australia for capital cities with a rail network by a country mile."

"It is alarming to reduce service frequency to very poor levels, but to also move from the standard clock face timings is incomprehensible.  Both Queensland Rail and TransLink have failed South East Queensland with this bizarre timetable.  It is a further display of utter contempt for South East Queenslanders sadly, something we are getting used too under a succession of failed State Governments."

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

References:

1. Easter 2017 --> https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=12713.msg190388#msg190388

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Weekends 526 bus arrives at Redbank rail at 45 minutes past the hour.
Inbound rail departs at 36 minutes past the hour with new timetable
So another botched connection with a wait time of 51 minutes.
Throw in a cancellation due to ' operational issue ' one could be waiting near on two hours ...
Normally inbound 22 and 52 minutes past the hour. A 7 minute transfer window which is generally fine.

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Route 272 - Cleveland to Victoria Point servicing Redland Hospitals
On the inbound route 272 arrives at :32 on the hour, the train will depart at :31 on the hour, meaning the bus has missed the train by 1 min
On the outbound the train arrives at Cleveland at :04 on the hour with route 272 departing at :25 on the hour meaning a 21min wait.

Route 274 - Cleveland to Victoria Point Jetty
On the inbound route 274 arrives at :30 on the hour with the train departing at :31 on the hour, meaning you only get 1min to transfer between bus and train with an hour wait if you miss that connection.
On the outbound route 274 departs at :05 on the hour with the train arriving at Cleveland at :04 on the hour which means a 1min connection (unlikely as it takes at least 2mins to reach the bus stop depending on how fast you walk it and get through the Go Card gates).

Route 250 - Carindale to Redland Bay Marina via Capalaba, Cleveland and Victoria Point
On the inbound route 250 arrives at :06 on the hour with the train departing at :31 on the hour, which is a 25min wait.
On the outbound route 250 departs Cleveland station at :24 on the hour with the train arriving :04 on the hour which is a 20min wait.

Route 255 - Cleveland to Birkdale
On the inbound route 255 arrives at :13 every second hour (7:13; 9:13 etc) - Saturday only, with the train departing Birkdale for the city at :39 on the hour - a 26min wait.
On the outbound route 255 departs at :20 every second hour (7:20; 9:20 etc) - Saturday only, with the train arriving Birkdale at :56 on the hour - a 24min wait.

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On the northside / Redcliffe:

Route 690 - Redcliffe to Sandgate.

Sandgate station - Route 690 arrives at :56 on the hour at Sandgate station, the train to the city will depart at :22 on the hour - a 26min wait.
Sandgate station - Route 690 departs at :00 on the hour at Sandgate station, the train from the city will arrive at :04 on the hour, missing the bus by 4mins.
Kippa Ring station - Route 690 arrives at :51 on the hour at Kippa Ring station, the train to the city will depart at :32 on the hour - a 41min wait.
The outbound connection doesn't seem to be too bad to be honest, which is lucky and complete fluke I think given the changes.

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Just checked route 258 - Cleveland to Toondah Harbour and for the most part that service is affected - it's the dedicated bus that connects between the station and Stradbroke Island Ferries.

On the inbound, route 258 arrives at :04 on the hour (most of the day), the train departs Cleveland for the city at :31 on the hour - a 5min connection blown out to a 27min connection.

On the outbound, route 258 departs at Cleveland at :38 on the hour (most of the day), the train arrives at Cleveland at :04 on the hour - a 34min connection.

You could seriously walk from Toondah Harbour to Cleveland station in that timeframe!

And guess one of the most popular places for visitors to go to during the Easter break - Stradbroke Island!
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Re: 4 Apr 2017: SEQ: Call for free travel 8/9th April and Easter 2017 ...
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 01:31:59 AM »
Discussion --> https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=12713.msg190428#msg190428
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6 Apr 2017: SEQ: Call for free travel 8/9th April and Easter 2017 ...
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2017, 02:28:18 AM »


Media release 4th April 2017 re-released 6th April 2017

SEQ: Call for free travel 8/9th April and Easter 2017 for SEQ public transport

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has called for free rail travel on the SEQ public transport for the reduced service Queensland Rail Easter and School holiday timetable.

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"A new low point in mediocrity for SEQ public transport has been reached with the proposed Queensland Rail Easter and school holiday timetable.  Not only has train service frequency been reduced to hourly, two hourly on the Sunshine Coast Line, but the timetable moves train times from the standard, well established clock face timings, and in so doing wrecking bus/rail connections."

"The outer bus timetables are based on the standard clock face timings for rail.  Change the rail times arbitrarily the integrated network collapses.  There will often be very long waits for people to use the network.  Under these circumstances travel should be free, as the travelling public is being punished for Queensland Rail's inability to deliver a proper service level."

"For some examples of the impact of the non-standard timings for this proposed rail timetable see below.  This proposed reduced rail service timetable is putting public transport back decades in SEQ.  It is not acceptable. People will struggle to get around, why should they pay fares for this very poor service?  The worst in Australia for capital cities with a rail network by a country mile."

"It is alarming to reduce service frequency to very poor levels, but to also move from the standard clock face timings is incomprehensible.  Both Queensland Rail and TransLink have failed South East Queensland with this bizarre timetable.  It is a further display of utter contempt for South East Queenslanders sadly, something we are getting used too under a succession of failed State Governments."

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track https://backontrack.org

References:

1. Easter 2017 --> https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=12713.msg190388#msg190388

=================================

Weekends 526 bus arrives at Redbank rail at 45 minutes past the hour.
Inbound rail departs at 36 minutes past the hour with new timetable
So another botched connection with a wait time of 51 minutes.
Throw in a cancellation due to ' operational issue ' one could be waiting near on two hours ...
Normally inbound 22 and 52 minutes past the hour. A 7 minute transfer window which is generally fine.

==================================

Route 272 - Cleveland to Victoria Point servicing Redland Hospitals
On the inbound route 272 arrives at :32 on the hour, the train will depart at :31 on the hour, meaning the bus has missed the train by 1 min
On the outbound the train arrives at Cleveland at :04 on the hour with route 272 departing at :25 on the hour meaning a 21min wait.

Route 274 - Cleveland to Victoria Point Jetty
On the inbound route 274 arrives at :30 on the hour with the train departing at :31 on the hour, meaning you only get 1min to transfer between bus and train with an hour wait if you miss that connection.
On the outbound route 274 departs at :05 on the hour with the train arriving at Cleveland at :04 on the hour which means a 1min connection (unlikely as it takes at least 2mins to reach the bus stop depending on how fast you walk it and get through the Go Card gates).

Route 250 - Carindale to Redland Bay Marina via Capalaba, Cleveland and Victoria Point
On the inbound route 250 arrives at :06 on the hour with the train departing at :31 on the hour, which is a 25min wait.
On the outbound route 250 departs Cleveland station at :24 on the hour with the train arriving :04 on the hour which is a 20min wait.

Route 255 - Cleveland to Birkdale
On the inbound route 255 arrives at :13 every second hour (7:13; 9:13 etc) - Saturday only, with the train departing Birkdale for the city at :39 on the hour - a 26min wait.
On the outbound route 255 departs at :20 every second hour (7:20; 9:20 etc) - Saturday only, with the train arriving Birkdale at :56 on the hour - a 24min wait.

===================================

On the northside / Redcliffe:

Route 690 - Redcliffe to Sandgate.

Sandgate station - Route 690 arrives at :56 on the hour at Sandgate station, the train to the city will depart at :22 on the hour - a 26min wait.
Sandgate station - Route 690 departs at :00 on the hour at Sandgate station, the train from the city will arrive at :04 on the hour, missing the bus by 4mins.
Kippa Ring station - Route 690 arrives at :51 on the hour at Kippa Ring station, the train to the city will depart at :32 on the hour - a 41min wait.
The outbound connection doesn't seem to be too bad to be honest, which is lucky and complete fluke I think given the changes.

===================================

Just checked route 258 - Cleveland to Toondah Harbour and for the most part that service is affected - it's the dedicated bus that connects between the station and Stradbroke Island Ferries.

On the inbound, route 258 arrives at :04 on the hour (most of the day), the train departs Cleveland for the city at :31 on the hour - a 5min connection blown out to a 27min connection.

On the outbound, route 258 departs at Cleveland at :38 on the hour (most of the day), the train arrives at Cleveland at :04 on the hour - a 34min connection.

You could seriously walk from Toondah Harbour to Cleveland station in that timeframe!

And guess one of the most popular places for visitors to go to during the Easter break - Stradbroke Island!
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
  Bob's Blog

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Re: 4 Apr 2017: SEQ: Call for free travel 8/9th April and Easter 2017 ...
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 02:29:37 AM »
Discussion --> https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=12713.msg190545#msg190545
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
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