Interim rail timetables

[ozbob]

The  ' $30,000 ' is for the software support for major timetable changes.  Each timetable has to be tested etc.  But it does appear that even when the testing says there are problems they ignore it! 

Onwards ...   

PS.  Tertiary exams are on now, lots of stressed students you can add to the normal struggling punters.  Hopeless situation ..

[ozbob]

ABC News --> Brisbane train driver shortage: 'Less than perfect' service possible on Friday, Minister warns

TransLink's interim train timetable for south-east Queensland commuters could be disrupted again on Friday just as it is about to be replaced with a new, more reliable schedule.

Acting chief executive of Queensland Rail Neil Scales has written to Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, promising a Monday-to-Sunday timetable would be published tomorrow for the rest of the year.

Ahead of that, Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe has warned of more train service disruptions, which started in the weeks following the opening of the Redcliffe Peninsula Line in early October, before the new timetable comes into effect.

"We have had an on-time running performance in the peak this morning of 97 per cent. That is good news," he said.

Rosewood gets 100% nearly. every. day.  Guess that is excellent news huh?   

[urbanplanr]

Sounds like they haven't explored the option of going back to pre MBRL timetabling. Is it worth sending a tweet to the Minister seeing that he found out about the timetabling woes first on Twitter? I think the acting CEO of QR Mr Scales is also an active Twitter user. May be worth including him on the same tweet. Hehe!

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Transport Minister tips more delays

Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe has admitted that train services may again go off the rails on Friday.

Mr Hinchliffe said on-time running performance was 97 per cent during the AM peak on Thursday.

But in delivering the good news, he also had bad.

"We have just been advised that we are facing the prospect of a less than perfect level of service tomorrow," Mr Hinchliffe said.

"There will be announcements being made through the normal courses around that in the course of today."

Mr Hinchliffe said a new timetable would be published on Friday, that would be operational from Monday, November 7.

"That will be the working timetable until early in the new year," he said.

Mr Hinchliffe said the interim timetable, which he said was recommended to him by the former CEO and chair, was unreliable.

"It's not up to scratch and that's why, Mr Speaker, we're going through a rigorous process," he said.

"And I'm working very closely with the acting CEO to develop and to deliver and to announce tomorrow the reliable timetable."

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said she had tasked Mr Hinchliffe with fixing the train issues and he had her confidence.

[ozbob]

Sounds like they haven't explored the option of going back to pre MBRL timetabling. Is it worth sending a tweet to the Minister seeing that he found out about the timetabling woes first on Twitter? I think the acting CEO of QR Mr Scales is also an active Twitter user. May be worth including him on the same tweet. Hehe!

It was sent out to the authorities. 

Sent to all outlets:

2nd November 2016

Fixing the rail timetable mess

Good Morning!

Is it?  Not for some hey?  lol

Anyway, as we have been warning for years the suburban rail system for SEQ is in a mess.  We have also been warning about the bus network for Brisbane for years, it too is a mess of failure.  This is the  ' proud ' record of a succession of failed governments.  Both the ALP and LNP are both implicated in the appalling situation we now face. The only shining hope is the new fare structure for SEQ due in January 2017.

Ok, fixing the rail mess.  When the then Richlands branch opened in January 2011 there was an interim timetable that allowed for a staged introduction and then the significant implementation of sector one timetables followed in June 2011.  A copy of this interim timetable can be found here > Richlands Jan 2011 interim timetable

This had shuttle services between Darra <> Richlands until the implementation of the new sector one timetables in June 2011.

The situation we face at present is not being sorted.  We suggest that Queensland Rail revert back to the timetable prior to Redcliffe Peninsula Line opening.  This was being delivered with a high degree of reliability.  Introduce shuttle services (mainly off peak) on the Redcliffe Peninsular Line between Petrie <> Kippa-Ring.  Yes this is an inconvenience but it will take the pressure off all lines, and allow all train crew to be made route ready without the present pressures.

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

Media: &#39; Fixing the rail timetable mess &#39;
> https://t.co/umheMLYQ9M#qldpol@StirlHinchliffe @N_Scales_TMR @AnnastaciaMP #youarewelcome pic.twitter.com/RYzxjDEEPt

— Robert Dow (@Robert_Dow) November 1, 2016

[BrizCommuter]

ABC News --> Brisbane train driver shortage: 'Less than perfect' service possible on Friday, Minister warns

TransLink's interim train timetable for south-east Queensland commuters could be disrupted again on Friday just as it is about to be replaced with a new, more reliable schedule.

Acting chief executive of Queensland Rail Neil Scales has written to Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk, promising a Monday-to-Sunday timetable would be published tomorrow for the rest of the year.

Ahead of that, Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe has warned of more train service disruptions, which started in the weeks following the opening of the Redcliffe Peninsula Line in early October, before the new timetable comes into effect.

"We have had an on-time running performance in the peak this morning of 97 per cent. That is good news," he said.

Rosewood gets 100% nearly. every. day.  Guess that is excellent news huh?   

More reliable schedule = less services, overcrowding, confusion, and commuter misery.
Any chance of the length of trains being on the new timetables? Will the new timetables just be a list of axed services?

[petey3801]

This is a serious suggestion.   How possible would it be for QR to hire out aurizon or pac nat drivers.   Aurizon are currently in a downturn of both coal and general freight.   There is a few of them that are trained on the suburban electrics.   I know that most wouldn't be currently qualified to run the electrics and wouldn't be competent on most of the branches, but nothing is stopping them running caboolture-ipswich services.

Should we be looking at paying those qualified who are involved with volunteer organisations like SDSR and QSPR to help ease the burden.  Even if its only for guard positions.

Anything to ease the burden on the current situation.  This is ridiculous.  Was there a mass exodus in the last few weeks?

It is in no way, shape or form anywhere near that easy.

Freight drivers would not be qualified on the electric suburban rollingstock. Depending where said freight drivers are coming from, they are likely not qualified for most (or any, if they are from up north) of the suburban system. Quite often, freight drivers actually take longer to train (particularly route knowledge, esp if they did not come from Citytrain to start with) than training guards.
Having drivers trained on only one or two routes is not practical. Jobcards are not made like that. While some depots don't go along some routes, they still travel along a large amount of the network (for example, [at least] Mayne, Redbank and Kippa Ring go everywhere except Nambour and Rosewood). Plus, where are the tutors going to come from for these freight drivers? Driver schools are full up until mid-2017 as it is. Freight drivers will still need several months (at a minimum) of training before being able to drive on their own.

Volunteers are not qualified to run anything other than the track and rollingstock which they run on (unless they are already active QR traincrew members, of course). Also, guards still need around 3-4 months of training to be qualified in their role.

It is all a fairly slow process, but for safety sake, it is not a process that should be sped up. Some trainees only need 6 months out on track to sign everything off, others need 12. That's a part of being human. Things have been happening for the past 12 (and more) months with regards to training. It just takes time. Ideally, the RPL shouldn't have been completely integrated in to the network for another couple months (ie: shuttles with the old timetable being in place), but it is likely the current gov't wanted the line open ASAP so QR pushed things just that little bit far and here we are. Training has been stepped up on the new line, so hopefully things might settle down in the reasonably near future. Here's hoping for the full timetable to be back in force by the start of the new year.

[ozbob]

Queensland Rail timetable - Friday 4 November

>> https://translink.com.au/service-updates/102746

Airport line
Cancellations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
7.06am    Central    Domestic Airport    7.31am
7.49am    Domestic Airport    Central    8.04am
12.01pm    Central    Domestic Airport    12.16pm
12.34pm    Domestic Airport    Central    12.49pm
4.49pm    Domestic Airport    Central    5.04pm

Beenleigh line

Cancellations to Brisbane City
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
5.18am    Beenleigh    Central    5.33am
9.40am    Coopers Plains    Central    9.58am
10.10am    Coopers Plains    Central    10.25am
11.10am    Coopers Plains    Central    11.25am
11.40am    Coopers Plains    Central    11.55am
12.40pm    Coopers Plains    Central    12.55pm
1.10pm    Coopers Plains    Central    1.25pm
1.18pm    Beenleigh    Central    1.48pm
2.40pm    Coopers Plains    Central    2.55pm
4.43pm    Coopers Plains    Central    4.58pm
7.40pm    Coopers Plains    Central    7.58pm
9.58pm    Beenleigh    Central    10.28pm
Cancellations to Coopers Plains and Beenleigh
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
6.19am    Central    Coopers Plains    6.34am
8.50am    Central    Coopers Plains    9.04am
9.19am    Central    Coopers Plains    9.24am
10.49am    Central    Coopers Plains    11.04am
11.34am    Central    Beenleigh    12.04pm
12.19pm    Central    Coopers Plains    12.32pm
1.49pm    Central    Coopers Plains    2.04pm
9.34pm    Central    Beenleigh    10.04pm
Partial cancellations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Change
6.49pm    Central    Coopers Plains    Cancelled from Park Road to Coopers Plains. The next train departs Central at 7.17pm.

Caboolture line
Cancellations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
6.33am    Central    Caboolture    7.03am
7.12am    Caboolture    Central    7.17am
7.29am    Caboolture    Central    7.37am
7.47am    Caboolture    Central    8.05am
5.40pm    Central    Caboolture    5.52pm

Cleveland line
Cancellations to Brisbane City
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
5.54am    Cleveland    Central    6.09am
6.39am    Cleveland    Central    6.54am
10.31am    Cannon Hill    Central    10.46am
11.31am    Cannon Hill    Central    11.46am
1.31pm    Cannon Hill    Central    1.46pm
2.01pm    Cannon Hill    Central    2.16pm
4.31pm    Cannon Hill    Central    4.46pm
4.54pm    Cleveland    Central    5.09pm
5.39pm    Cleveland    Central    5.54pm
6.24pm    Cleveland    Central    6.39pm
6.54pm    Cleveland    Central    7.09pm
Cancellations to Cannon Hill and Cleveland
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
5.17am    Central    Cleveland    5.47am
7.32am    Central    Cleveland    7.47am
10.02am    Central    Cannon Hill    10.15am
11.02am    Central    Cannon Hill    11.17am
1.02m    Central    Cannon Hill    1.17pm
3.32pm    Central    Cannon Hill    3.47pm
4.24pm    Central    Cleveland    4.32pm
5.02pm    Central    Manly    5.17pm
5.03pm    Bowen Hills    Cleveland    5.09pm
5.32pm    Central    Cleveland    5.47pm
Partial cancellations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Change
4.54pm    Central    Cleveland    Cancelled from Roma Street to Cleveland. Next train departs 5.09pm.
6.32pm    Central    Cleveland    Cancelled from Roma Street to Cleveland. Next train departs 6.47pm.
Alterations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Change
9.02am    Central    Cannon Hill    Will run express Park Road to Cannon Hill.

Doomben line
Cancellations to Brisbane City
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
7.58am    Doomben    Central    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Doomben to Eagle Junction.
10.28am    Doomben    Central    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Doomben to Eagle Junction.
3.58pm    Doomben    Roma Street    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Doomben to Eagle Junction.
5.58pm    Doomben    Roma Street    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Doomben to Eagle Junction.
Cancellations to Doomben
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
7.23am    Central    Doomben    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Eagle Junction to Doomben.
9.59am    Central    Doomben    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Eagle Junction to Doomben.
3.23pm    Roma Street    Doomben    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Eagle Junction to Doomben.
5.23pm    Central    Doomben    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Eagle Junction to Doomben.

Ferny Grove line
Cancellations to Brisbane City
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
5.47am    Ferny Grove    Central    6.02am
7.10am    Ferny Grove    Central    7.17am
8.10am    Ferny Grove    Central    8.17am
9.47am    Ferny Grove    Central    10.02am
11.02am    Ferny Grove    Central    11.17am
1.17pm    Ferny Grove    Central    1.32pm
2.47pm    Ferny Grove    Central    3.02pm
11.32pm    Ferny Grove    Central    12.02am
Cancellations to Ferny Grove
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
4.56am    Central    Ferny Grove    5.11am
8.57am    Central    Ferny Grove    9.11am
10.11am    Central    Ferny Grove    10.31am
12.27pm    Central    Ferny Grove    12.41pm
1.37pm    Roma Street    Ferny Grove    1.52pm
               
3.21pm    Central    Ferny Grove    3.26pm
4.03pm    Central    Ferny Grove    4.11pm
4.59pm    Roma Street    Ferny Grove    5.07pm
10.26pm    Central    Ferny Grove    10.56pm
12.26am    Central    Ferny Grove    12.56am

Inner north
Cancellations to Brisbane City and Park Road
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
4.13am    Central    Park Road    4.23am
4.42am    Park Road    Central    4.23am
4.57am    Northgate    Central    5.12am
6.49am    Northgate    Central    6.57am
7.19am    Northgate    Central    7.27am
7.42am    Central    Park Road    7.47am
7.57am    Central    Park Road    7.59am
8.12am    Central    Park Road    8.17am
8.19am    Northgate    Roma Street    8.27am
8.42am    Central    Park Road    8.44am
9.39am    Park Road    Central    9.42am
10.42am    Northgate    Central    10.57am
12.42pm    Northgate    Central    12.57pm
2.42pm    Northgate    Central    2.57pm
3.12pm    Northgate    Central    3.27pm
3.49pm    Park Road    Central    3.57pm
4.22pm    Central    Park Road    4.29pm
4.52pm    Park Road    Central    4.59pm
5.09pm    Park Road    Central    5.12pm
6.03pm    Bowen Hills    Park Road    6.09pm
7.19pm    Central    Park Road    7.29pm
7.42pm    Northgate    Roma Street    9.12pm
8.44pm    Park Road    Central    8.47pm
9.42pm    Northgate    Roma Street    9.57pm
10.12pm    Northgate    Roma Street    10.27pm
10.42pm    Northgate    Roma Street    10.57pm
11.12pm    Northgate    Roma Street    11.27pm
11.42pm    Northgate    Roma Street    11.57pm
12.12am    Northgate    Roma Street    12.27am
12.42am    Northgate    Roma Street    12.57am
Cancellations to Northgate
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
4.24am    Central    Northgate    4.39am
9.58am    Central    Northgate    10.13am
11.58am    Central    Northgate    12.13pm
1.58pm    Central    Northgate    2.13pm
2.28pm    Central    Northgate    2.43pm
3.32pm    Central    Northgate    3.43pm
4.32pm    Central    Northgate    4.43pm
4.47pm    Roma Street    Northgate    5.09pm
5.06pm    Central    Northgate    5.13pm
5.17pm    Central    Northgate    5.28pm
6.02pm    Roma Street    Northgate    6.09pm
7.28pm    Central    Northgate    7.43pm
7.34pm    Central    Bowen Hills    8.04pm
7.58pm    Central    Northgate    8.13pm
8.58pm    Central    Northgate    9.13pm
9.24pm    Central    Northgate    9.39pm
9.54pm    Central    Northgate    10.09pm
10.24pm    Central    Northgate    10.39pm
10.54pm    Central    Northgate    11.09pm
11.04pm    Central    Northgate    11.39pm
11.54pm    Central    Northgate    12.09am
12.24am    Central    Northgate    12.36am
12.42am    Northgate    Roma Street    12.57am
12.54am    Central    Northgate    1.03am

Gold Coast line

Cancellations to Brisbane City
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
5.55am    Varsity Lakes    Central    6.10am
6.40am    Varsity Lakes    Central    6.55am
10.40am    Varsity Lakes    Central    11.10am
2.40pm    Varsity Lakes    Central    3.10pm
Cancellations to Varsity Lakes
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
9am    Central    Varsity Lakes    9.30am
1pm    Central    Varsity Lakes    1.30pm
5.15pm    Central    Varsity Lakes    5.30pm
Alterations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Change
6.02am    Varsity Lakes    Central    Will stop all stations to Central.

Ipswich and Springfield lines
Cancellations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
6.57am    Ipswich    Central    7.03am
12.35pm    Ipswich    Rosewood    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Ipswich to Rosewood.
12.43pm    Central    Springfield Central    1.13pm
1.05pm    Rosewood    Ipswich    Rail replacement bus will be available all stops from Rosewood to Ipswich.
1.39pm    Springfield Central    Central    2.09pm
2.46pm    Bowen Hills    Springfield Central    3.04pm
4.19pm    Central    Springfield Central    4.31pm
4.35pm    Bowen Hills    Ipswich    4.46pm
5.25pm    Central    Springfield Central    5.37pm
5.31pm    Bowen Hills    Springfield Central    5.37pm

Redcliffe Peninsula line
Cancellations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
7.10am    Kippa-Ring    Central    7.16am
8.52am    Central    Kippa-Ring    9.22am
2.22pm    Central    Kippa-Ring    2.43pm

Shorncliffe line
Cancellations
Departure time    Departure station    Arrival station    Next train
6.58am    Central    Shorncliffe    7.13am
4.58pm    Central    Shorncliffe    5.13pm
5.39pm    Shorncliffe    Central    5.54pm
6.39pm    Shorncliffe    Central    6.54pm

[BrizCommuter]

From news.com.au:

Southeast Queenslanders will have to contend with a "less than perfect" train timetable on Friday, the state's embattled Transport Minsiter Stirling Hinchliffe warns.

Further service cuts are expected as Queensland Rail continues to operate on an interim timetable to compensate for driver and guard shortages - the same problems that caused a crisis last month with mass service cancellations.

"We are facing the prospect of a less-than-perfect level of service tomorrow and there will be announcements being made through the normal courses around that in the course of today," Mr Hinchliffe told parliament.

ABC reported this morning that every timetable change costs $30,000 - paid to a Canadian company. ?

The "normal" peak timetables are "less than perfect" on many lines anyway!

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> 113 trains services to be cancelled on Friday

There will be 113 fewer train services on Friday, as the ongoing Queensland Rail saga rolls on.

Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe said there would be 1197 services on the Citytrain network on Friday as the shift to the new reliable timetable was made.

"That means 113 less services than the interim timetable, spread across the timetable," he said.

"These services have been limited to off-peak times, where possible.

"For customers with wait times of more than 30 minutes, alternative transport will be offered by station staff."

TransLink and Queensland Rail were due to start communicating the changes immediately.

"Tomorrow's cancellations rip the Band-Aid off the running sore that is the interim timetable that is not reliable enough for commuters," Mr Hinchliffe said.

"Commuters don't just want regular services, they want consistent services and a timetable they can rely upon."

Earlier, Mr Hinchliffe has admitted that train services may again go off the rails on Friday.

Mr Hinchliffe said on-time running performance was 97 per cent during the AM peak on Thursday.

But in delivering the good news, he also had bad.

"We have just been advised that we are facing the prospect of a less than perfect level of service tomorrow," Mr Hinchliffe said.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said she had tasked Mr Hinchliffe with fixing the train issues and he had her confidence.

But Opposition Transport spokesman Andrew Powell said the situation was well beyond a joke and asked why Mr Hinchliffe had not been sacked.

"Day after day this bumbling, incompetent minister expects Queenslanders to simply cross their fingers and hope a train turns up to get them to work or school," Mr Powell said.

[ozbob]

I do feel a bit sorry for the bulk of staff at Queensland Rail.  This is just horrible for them.

[tazzer9]

How big are the financial implications for cancelling airport services.   I know it must be sizeable considering they have been spare so far.

[ozbob]

The state&#39;s rail network expected to be thrown into chaos again tomorrow. @ShaneDoherty9 #9News https://t.co/HS1vhTjrxY

— Nine News Brisbane (@9NewsBrisbane) November 3, 2016

[wbj]

CHAOS!!!!, except to the huge majority of services which will run normally.  I wonder if any passenger is actually inconvenienced more than the QR staff who are working the overtime which they don't necessarily want to do.  At least it gives the Courier Mail and tv stations plenty of filler for their outlets.

[BrizCommuter]

CHAOS!!!!, except to the huge majority of services which will run normally.  I wonder if any passenger is actually inconvenienced more than the QR staff who are working the overtime which they don't necessarily want to do.  At least it gives the Courier Mail and tv stations plenty of filler for their outlets.

The number of axed services may be a small %, but for some commuters (depending on the time they travel) it can be a big pain - for example during a 16 minute period on Fridays, 2 out 3 Ferny Grove Line trains have been cancelled. Shift workers (especially those who work different shifts on different days) seem to be the big losers.

[James]

CHAOS!!!!, except to the huge majority of services which will run normally.  I wonder if any passenger is actually inconvenienced more than the QR staff who are working the overtime which they don't necessarily want to do.  At least it gives the Courier Mail and tv stations plenty of filler for their outlets.

Tell that to the people who are running late for work because the train they're trying to board at Wilston is overcrowded due to AM peark services being cancelled. Tell that to the student who is trying to get to Uni, but needs to leave an extra half hour early to get there on time. Tell that to the person going to the doctor who needs to catch an earlier train because they don't have enough faith in the system.

This simply isn't acceptable, and it needs to be fixed ASAP. No more 'interim timetable' - revert to a timetable now which can be delivered without this level of cancellations. If shuttles on the MBRL + old timetable are what is required, so be it.

How big are the financial implications for cancelling airport services.   I know it must be sizeable considering they have been spare so far.

Airport services have not been spared - they have been cut, just not as much. As they connect to Gold Coast services, they are arguably more important to run due to their interurban function and lack of possible bus replacements (buses provide an alternative to much of the suburban rail network).

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Brisbane trains: Cancellation of more than 100 rail services expected to cause commuter chaos

JUST a fortnight after commuters were subjected to widespread chaos, they will today face a repeat performance from the State Government as more than 100 rail services are cancelled.

The news came as Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk continued to defend her embattled Transport Minister, Stirling Hinchliffe.

Mr Hinchliffe told Parliament yesterday morning that travellers could expect a "less-than-perfect" level of service, only to get back on his feet again just hours later to admit 113 services would be temporarily struck out.

On October 21, 100 services had to be cancelled, which led to the unmasking of a ­driver shortage problem and the eventual resignation of Queensland Rail's chairwoman and chief executive Helen Gluer.

The Courier-Mail yesterday revealed that Ms Gluer cited as one of the key reasons ­behind her resignation the fact that she had not been made aware by her subordinates of a document that warned of the looming driver shortage issue.

At the same time, Mr Hinchliffe has repeatedly pointed to QR not providing him with such documents to justify his remaining in the job.

Ms Palaszczuk yesterday attempted to fend off an ­Opposition question about the difference in approach ­between Mr Hinchliffe and Ms Gluer.

"As we know, the CEO of Queensland Rail and the chair of the Queensland Rail board resigned," she said.

"The CEO of Queensland Rail has responsibility for the operational aspects of the train network in southeast Queensland. They failed to act on reports that were not given to the Government."

Mr Hinchliffe promised the new seven-day timetable for the remainder of 2016 would be released today.

"As I have said since Tuesday, it is apparent that the former CEO's assurance that the interim timetable was sustainable was not correct," he said. "This is deeply disappointing."

The Transport Minister described the blow to service provision as the southeast transitions away from the interim timetable as a "required diminution of services across the rail network as we shift to the new sustainable 2016 timetable". ...

[BrizCommuter]

I would prefer the original timetable (most can still remember it) + MBRL shuttle.

Not perfect. But having TrainLOTTO (TM) on the network can not continue.

Unlikely (but not impossible) due staff roster changes. More likely it will just be cuts from the existing timetables, but you never know...

BTW can you put somewhere in your signature your previous user name please.

[tazzer9]

Airport services have not been spared - they have been cut, just not as much. As they connect to Gold Coast services, they are arguably more important to run due to their interurban function and lack of possible bus replacements (buses provide an alternative to much of the suburban rail network).

They have until the most recent interim timetable change.   Otherwise it was last minute cancellations.   

[ozbob]

The new timetable will be available later this afternoon .... 

[BrizCommuter]

The new timetable will be available later this afternoon .... 

5 minutes to midnight then 

[ozbob]

Looks like the ' presser ' is now on ..

Qld transport minister promises new train timetable will be reliable and consistent. @7NewsQueensland pic.twitter.com/1wGxyIcEPS

— Katrina Blowers (@katrinablowers) November 4, 2016

[ozbob]

New Queensland Rail timetable - Monday 7 November

>> https://translink.com.au/service-updates/104191

[ozbob]

PDFs are not yet available, but as I understand it the ' new ' timetable is in effect the interim Mon - Thursday timetables for Monday to Thursday with today's Friday timetable being the new Friday timetable.

To be confirmed.

[ozbob]

Twitter

Jason Tin ‏@jasonthetin 3 minutes ago

@StirlHinchliffe : new timetable will have 333 fewer services than original, "ambitious" Oct 4 version @couriermail

[BrizCommuter]

So no PDFs, no list of axed services, and the journey planner timetable keeps crashing. Bleedin' useless TransLink!

[James]

Journey planner crashed the moment the new timetables came out. Would have coped much better with server load if we had pdf timetables. Couldn't organise a p%ss up in a brewery!

H O P E L E S S - H O P E L E S S - H O P E L E S S - H O P E L E S S - H O P E L E S S - H O P E L E S S

[ozbob]

They try to hide the real service diminution with the cryptic presentation of course.

Be fascinating to see if a statement is issued and the spin in that ..

Only in Queensland would a service delivery failure and cuts be attempted to be spun as a good thing for us all!

LOL !

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Brisbane trains: New timetable to have 333 fewer services

The new train timetable will have 333 fewer services from Monday to Friday compared with the timetable released on October 4.

Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe announced the new timetable, which will be in place from Monday, on Friday afternoon at Ferny Grove.

The minister, and Queensland Rail, have been under intense pressure, following numerous cancellations caused by not having enough train drivers after the opening of the Redcliffe Peninsula Line.

There will be 6233 services from Monday to Friday under the new timetable, which Mr Hinchliffe said was still more than was running in September.

Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe said the government "frankly... failed to deliver" the October 4 timetable, which started on the day the Redcliffe Peninsula Line opened.

"But I'm pleased that this timetable that will be in place from Monday for the remainder of 2016 will deliver the reliability and consistency that commuters expect.

"Beyond that, we will be building up to the ability to deliver more services."
A sign at Milton train station this week flags service changes. A sign at Milton train station this week flags service changes. Photo: Robert Shakespeare

Mr Hinchliffe described the new timetable as "more modest" than the October 4 timetable, which he said was "ambitious".

"But this is one that I am confident that we will see delivered, without unexpected cancellations, without challenges, and it will be reliable and consistent," he said.

This week has been tumultuous for the government, with former agriculture minister Leanne Donaldson resigning the cabinet, and Mr Hinchliffe under pressure after it was revealed Queensland Rail was warned of the looming driver shortage months ago.

When asked if Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk had confirmed he would retain his portfolios, Mr Hinchliffe said it was "entirely a matter for the premier".

"The conversations I've had with the premier in the last 12 hours or so have been all focused on my delivering of my commitment to her to ensure that we see a consistent and reliable timetable in place," he said.

"Those matters are a matter for the premier, they always are."

Queensland Rail acting chief executive officer Neil Scales said the services removed from the timetable were those where commuters could get an "adjacent service, either earlier or later".

"There's some science behind this as well, we've looked at the loading factors from our Go Card machines on each of the services," Mr Scales said.

Friday morning's AM peak had an on-time running performance of 94.8 per cent.

Mr Scales said 100 per cent was largely impossible, but the target was 96 per cent and thanked commuters for their patience.

[ozbob]

Please provide a line by line list of the actual service cancellations cf. 4 oct TT please @StirlHinchliffe not buried in the JP#qldpol

— Robert Dow (@Robert_Dow) November 4, 2016

. @TransLinkSEQ @QueenslandRail @TMRQld
It is called transparency and honesty ..#qldpol https://t.co/DqRPcAa0XC

— Robert Dow (@Robert_Dow) November 4, 2016

[BrizCommuter]

60 minute am peak gap on the Doomben Line, and an even worse Ferny Grove am peak timetable will  occur on Fridays.

[ozbob]

Doomben gets buses a lot on Fridays ..

[ozbob]

Couriermail --> Train timetable: New schedule has 333 fewer services

AFTER a fortnight of train woes, Transport Minister Stirling Hinchliffe has unveiled a timetable with more than 330 fewer services than the "ambitious" one the Government failed to deliver.

Mr Hinchliffe has also refused to say whether Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has indicated to him whether he will be stripped of any ministerial responsibilities. ...

[BrizCommuter]

Doomben gets buses a lot on Fridays ..

Sadly, it seems that most affected commuters didn't know about the replacement bus this morning.

[ozbob]

Doomben gets buses a lot on Fridays ..

Sadly, it seems that most affected commuters didn't know about the replacement bus this morning.

Maybe they were to busy reading the Queensland Rail Customer Charter to notice slippery timetable changes overnight  !   

[ozbob]

No sign of the PDFs > https://translink.com.au/service-updates/104191

' Available soon ' could mean hours or days with these wankers sadly ..

I simply cannot be bothered trolling through the journey planner in some hope of conceptualising the reductions in services.  They do this deliberately of course to frustrate any real meaningful analysis.  They throw a few numbers around at the press conference and this becomes the message.

If and when the PDFs are available, be useful to have the figures and actual cancelled services.

A cooperative regime would provide a list of lines and the changes .. but hey this is Queensland of course.

I think Mr Hinchliffe's days in Transport are now numbered too by the way.

[ozbob]

Twitter

Queensland Rail ‏@QueenslandRail 3 hours ago

Queensland Rail has launched a new timetable effective from Monday 7 November and it's available online now, visit https://translink.com.au/service-updates/104191 ...

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" has launched a new timetable ... "  is this like launching the Titanic?  Non stop dribble spin ...  it is everywhere ..

Better would be Queensland Rail - new timetable with service reductions effective from  ...     
 

[Gazza]

No inner north line 

[ozbob]

Train debacle: Acting @QueenslandRail CEO says his goal is to get to 96% on-time running. @katrinablowers #7News https://t.co/eya13lo4u8

— 7 News Queensland (@7NewsQueensland) November 4, 2016