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Offline Cazza

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2021, 05:52:43 PM »
No. The closest is the 539 from Rosewood to Helidon (https://translink.com.au/sites/default/files/acquiadam-assets/timetables/170109-539.pdf)
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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2021, 08:09:47 PM »
Toowoomba is part of the TransLink Toowoomba network.  Similar to how the regional areas are part of their 'own' TransLink network, e.g TransLink Cairns, TransLink Mackay, etc.

Eventually the rest of the existing regional QConnect network will be converted to their own TransLink networks, with the possible exception of the QConnect-run Sunshine Coast Hinterland route, which may be speculated to be potentially absorbed into TransLink SEQ with the SEQ fare zones applied instead.

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Offline #Metro

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2021, 09:21:49 PM »
Would it be worth running a bus from Ipswich to Toowoomba as part of the TL network?
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Offline achiruel

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2021, 03:37:12 PM »
If that's your goal, why not just extend the 539 by going up the range? Not sure if the current fleet could be used, though, as I think all buses up the range must have seatbelts fitted. It's kind of bizzare how the current network terminates in a kind of nothing location (Helidon, pop. ~1,100), but I suspect it's a hangover from the days of the Helidon railmotor. It never ran to Toowoomba because of the ridiculous alignment.

Offline verbatim9

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2021, 11:39:07 PM »
We are getting a new electrified rail line to Toowoomba, so the the bus is likely not needed from Helidon to Toowoomba.

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2021, 06:39:29 AM »
We are getting a new electrified rail line to Toowoomba, so the the bus is likely not needed from Helidon to Toowoomba.

I think the electrified railway to Toowoomba is poe-in-the-sky. It's a good idea, but I'd be surprised if it happens within the next 30 years.

I mean, we can't even extend the Gold Coast line to OOL, which is relatively easy compared to Toowoomba. NCL duplication has been on hold for an age. No CAMCOS. No Cleveland duplication. CRR is rapidly turning into a disaster. And you think there's gonna be train to Toowoomba?

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2021, 08:40:44 AM »
Toowoomba

Toowoomba is approaching 200K population. I am adding to this thread on Toowoomba as I think there is are a lot of opportunities there for improvement. Perhaps this could be a sub-board in time, along with GC, SC, Ipswich etc.

Potential Improvements

- A regular TL bus from Ipswich to Toowoomba. Ideally, with 120 or 60-minute frequencies 6 days per week, and a reduced frequency on Sunday.

- One flat fare zone across the entire urban area of Toowoomba . Right now there are 11 fare zones.
Yes, Toowoomba has more zones than SEQ -  which seems excessive and completely unneccesary https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0026/91385/Toowoomba-2019.pdf

- Bus Reform. Toowoomba appears to have a central terminus model, where all buses terminate in the city. Consideration should be given to through-routing which would greatly simplify the network. More frequent buses could also be considered.

- Electric Scooters and eBicycles One of the great things about Toowoomba is that it has a pleasant urban form. Scooters can fill in the gaps in the PT network both as line-haul function and to a lesser extent to connect with bus services. Scooters would likely be more effective than flexible bus services, provided that the scooters were given designation station areas to park in and that scooter numbers were not too restrictive.

- PT infrastructure
Some tweaking of PT infrastructure should be considered, particularly in the city.

- Full integration within the TL SEQ Network
Toowoomba to be added to the SEQ fare zones network, along with GoCard access (could be a virtual GoCard on your mobile phone).

- Park and Ride Consider park and ride options for bus services
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Offline Gazza

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2021, 09:42:32 AM »
Agree with the above.
Everything is mostly hourly barring some half hourly services on a couple of routes in the morning peak.

Routing is probably the best you could hope for, unless you launched extra routes to reduce some of the zig zagging.


I don't disagree about having a TL bus from Toowoomba to Ipswich, but to be honest it will probably end up being a welfare service like the 540 since It'll be slower than driving.

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Re: TransLink Toowoomba
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2021, 09:49:54 AM »

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I don't disagree about having a TL bus from Toowoomba to Ipswich, but to be honest it will probably end up being a welfare service like the 540 since It'll be slower than driving.

I think the journey time itself would be on par with driving as the stops could be 'on request' and patronage in-between is not expected to be high. Most pax would be ex Ipswich or ex Toowoomba IMHO.

The frequency would not be attractive but not everyone can or wants to drive 90 km up the range.

A question I would have is what should the earliest and latest services be?
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