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South East Queensland’s Rail Horizon

Started by ozbob, March 18, 2016, 12:11:00 PM

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http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/3/18/overcrowded-trains-on-the-horizon-if-we-fail-to-plan-for-growth

Media Release
Minister for Transport and the Commonwealth Games
The Honourable Stirling Hinchliffe

Overcrowded trains on the horizon if we fail to plan for growth


The passenger load on South East Queensland's busiest railway lines will reach capacity in the next decade unless we invest in network improvements, according to the Queensland Government's long-term rail network strategy released today.

Minister for Transport Stirling Hinchliffe said South East Queensland's Rail Horizon confirmed our busiest railway lines will be overwhelmed by passenger growth if the state fails to address the region's rail network capacity and congestion challenges before 2026.

"There will be standing-room only on our commuter trains if we don't plan for the massive population growth down the track or invest in major projects like Cross River Rail," Mr Hinchliffe said.

"South East Queensland's Rail Horizon released today outlines the projects and solutions to address our region's rail network capacity and congestion challenges and ensure our infrastructure keeps place with growth.

"By 2036, the South East Queensland population is forecast to reach almost 4.9 million people and we need a better rail system to keep pace with growth and provide a better experience for passengers.

"That's why the Palaszczuk Government is focused on delivering more seats on mores trains, more stations and shorter journey times for commuters."

Mr Hinchliffe said the increasing growth corridors in South East Queensland would place pressure on the transport network, particularly where the system converges in the Brisbane CBD.

"Consistent with the State Infrastructure Plan, the strategy released today aims to direct investment to the rail network which will get more efficiency out of existing infrastructure," he said.

"Cross River Rail, new high capacity signals and longer trains all form part of our plan.

"It's not just tunnel vision for Brisbane, we're delivering rail projects to improve access, reliability and increase service frequency across the South East.

"Our strategy puts the commuter at the heart of the decisions we make to deliver on our rail network vision."

Key South East Queensland rail network initiatives include:

    Moreton Bay Rail Link - due for completion mid-2016
    Coomera to Helensvale track duplication - due for completion in 2017
    Roll out of 75 new generation six-car trains from late 2016
    Proposed Cross River Rail - Queensland Government will deliver the business case to the Federal Government for consideration by mid2016.

Further information about the South East Queensland's Rail Horizon is available at www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Travel-and-transport/Rail/South-East-Queenslands-Rail-Horizon
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Optimise the network page 15

Improved timetabling
Improved inner city dwell management
Real-time passenger information
New Generation Rollingstock
Fare structure review
Next Generation Ticketing
New Generaion Signalling (ETCS wider network)
Simplifying services
Timetable improvements
Station and platform management
Coomera to Helensvale duplication
Beerburrum to Nambour upgrade
More peak and shoulder peak services
Outer network stabling
Targeted freight enhancements

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petey3801

Here's hoping it also includes the increase to 99 NGR trains too!
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ozbob

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18th March 2016

South East Queensland's Rail Horizon

Greetings,

RAIL Back On Track welcomes today's release of the ' South East Queensland's Rail Horizon '

This suite of rail solutions and innovations confirms our strong and unrelenting support for Cross River Rail. Cross River Rail will deliver capacity equivalent to a 30 lane highway! It enables the entire SEQ rail network for increased capacity.

Commonsense network solutions are detailed.   It is significant to note that Automatic Train Protection - (European Train Control System - ETCS)  is planned for our rail network. This is a significant step forward for even better safety and capacity improvements.

A step forward for the future. Thank you to the Queensland Government, Transport and Main Roads, TransLink and Queensland Rail for this very significant blueprint for revitalising and transforming the SEQ rail network.

Best wishes
Robert

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Reference:

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Travel-and-transport/Rail/South-East-Queenslands-Rail-Horizon
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SurfRail

Unfortunately I think it falls into that category of things which is 100% correct but also 100% unhelpful.

The only solutions are to sell some stuff, raise taxes or borrow.   :ttp:
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ozbob

It is a sensible framework.   Funding of course is the issue.  At least what needs to be done is clearly articulated.

There is nowhere to hide non delivery now.
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kram0

Quote from: Derwan on March 18, 2016, 13:54:40 PM
Oh look! Another pretty brochure!

Agree, actions will speak louder than words. It's funny how they are trying to claim credit for previous labor and LNP projects as they have nothing new to get credit for. Only time will tell if they put this into action or confirm what many believe they are all talk. We can only hope!!

bretto82

All sides claim credit for it can do Campbell did the same thing made some very stupid things with the contrast now we are paying for them

Stillwater

CCR business case won't be ready until mid-2016, so what as Trad et al been carrying on about?  The dollars required won't be settled until then.  The business case comes first, then u ask for the dollars based upon the business case findings.

It should be noted that Figure 5 shows a 'Caboolture North' railway station.  Interesting.

#Metro

Anything about bus reform connection works at rail stations, like:

1. Bus-rail interchange at Indooroopilly
2. Bus access road at Coopers Plains, Zillmere
3. Bus turn around at Morningside

These are ultra-low cost small things that would be quick to deliver and fix up connection with the bus network.
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Gazza

On the map the crowding levels at Springfield Central strike me as odd....I was under the impression ridership at those stations was hamstrung by small carparks and the capacity/reliability of the feeder bus.

dancingmongoose

QuoteCross River Rail will require significant funding contributions and cooperation from all levels of government.
*cough*BCC*cough*

Whippa

Quote from: Gazza on March 18, 2016, 19:13:28 PM
On the map the crowding levels at Springfield Central strike me as odd....I was under the impression ridership at those stations was hamstrung by small carparks and the capacity/reliability of the feeder bus.

There's a hell of a lot of drop off/pickup patronage at both Springfield and Springfield Central during the peaks. There's a whole line of cars waiting for each peak hour train at SFC in the arvo and loads dropping off in the morning too.

#Metro

#16
I would like the Centenary suburbs to be investigated for Class A or Class B rapid transit.

I am thinking along the lines of disconnecting the Springfield line, having that run parallel to the Centenary Motorway with stations:
* Mt Ommaney
* Jindalee
* New Indooroopilly Shopping Centre Station

Join the Ipswich line between Indooroopilly station and Taringa

This would actually make the Springfield line faster as it makes fewer stops. The section through the Centenary Suburbs would have three stations, whereas the current route has seven. It would be a congestion bypass, directly taking people off the Centenary Motorway and Moggill Road.

It would add a major trip generator - Mt Ommaney to the rail network. It would also add DFO Jindalee (that area could be looked at for TOD in the quadrant Sinnamon Rd/Koorigal Rd) and allow a major bus/rail interchange right in front of Indooroopilly shopping centre.

If a very distant future stage, CRR2, the line could be separated further and pass under West End. Passing the line under West End was mentioned within the ICRCS report.
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Stillwater

The centrepiece of the SEQ Rail Horizons report is Cross River Rail.  The document spells out the case for this project to proceed, and bodes disaster if it does not.

We are told the yet-again revamped CRR project route will be revealed 'within days' and that the business case is being finalised, ready for assessment by Infrastructure Australia.  All the nonsense that Trad and co have been going on about the feds funding CRR have been bluff and bluster politics without a business case in place.  It is a bit like protesting that the council won't let you build a house yet the hold-up is that you have not submitted the building plans for approval.  Sheer theatre!

What's required now, either by RailBOT asking the question or Labor demanding of it (in reality, probably the latter) is for the LNP to commit to the latest CRR project and to state categorically that any future LNP government will not scrap the latest plan in favour of yet another option supported by the conservative side of politics, or their cronies.  Queensland cannot afford to send CRR back to the scrapheap a third time!

Lawrence Springborg should come out a state publicly that, while the LNP might have some concerns about what's proposed, or is worried about the finances, flooding, or whatever, the LNP will not tamper with the progress of this important and critical project.  Such a statement is necessary also in the current climate where the crossbench is threatening not to support the SIP because it is too focussed on SEQ infrastructure projects.  In fact, in the robust nature in which Queensland politics is played out, Springborg could cause the government discomfort by saying the LNP supports CRR as the most expensive and essential piece of infrastructure for SEQ.

The pollies have had their fun on this matter to the point where the very fibre of SEQ's public transport operations is in jeopardy and about to fail.

Criticising CRR again, by either side, shows that whoever does the criticising as only their own political interests at heart, and not those of the travelling public.

Silence on the part of the LNP won't wash either.  There must be bipartisan support for CRR in order to maximise the chance of obtaining federal funds for such a vital project.


Derwan

Quote from: Stillwater on March 19, 2016, 09:20:03 AM
There must be bipartisan support for CRR in order to maximise the chance of obtaining federal funds for such a vital project.

With Queensland politics on a knife's edge, perhaps we should be pushing for this!  Both parties have had a crack at it and had their plans squashed after losing elections.  We're at least 6 years behind now.

Unless there are any major issues with the proposal, it needs to be endorsed and supported by the LNP to ensure that it gets built - regardless of the outcome of the next election or any potential change of government because of independents and the Katter boys playing games.
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MTPCo

The document hasn't been updated since 2016.
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verbatim9

Quote from: MTPCo on March 23, 2021, 13:15:36 PM
The document hasn't been updated since 2016.
You only can go by what's been published and it has been revised on Feb 22 this year.

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Gazza

Quote from: verbatim9 on March 23, 2021, 13:19:40 PM
Quote from: MTPCo on March 23, 2021, 13:15:36 PM
The document hasn't been updated since 2016.
You only can go by what's been published and it has been revised on Feb 22 this year.
That just means the source webpage has been updated, not necessarily the content.
This can be triggered by things like adjustments to the website coding.

verbatim9

#25
Does it really matter? As long as it's been revised and still is current that's the main thing. When revised, objectives are reposted. RBOT can review what's been achieved and highlight the achievements and pitfalls in regard to the specific objective.

Stillwater

#26
Interesting reference -- Page 15 ( Fig.8 ) .... "new Caloundra Line".  CALOUNDRA.

Gazza

Quote from: verbatim9 on March 23, 2021, 13:52:54 PM
Does it really matter? As long as it's been revised and still is current that's the main thing. When revised, objectives are reposted. RBOT can review what's been achieved and highlight the achievements and pitfalls in regard to the specific objective.
SEQs rail horizon was not revised on Feb 22, only the webpage it was sitting on.
The actual content of the PDF document has not changed since 2016.

verbatim9

Quote from: Gazza on March 23, 2021, 14:08:33 PM
Quote from: verbatim9 on March 23, 2021, 13:52:54 PM
Does it really matter? As long as it's been revised and still is current that's the main thing. When revised, objectives are reposted. RBOT can review what's been achieved and highlight the achievements and pitfalls in regard to the specific objective.
SEQs rail horizon was not revised on Feb 22, only the webpage it was sitting on.
The actual content of the PDF document has not changed since 2016.
Good ,so It can be scrutinised to what has been or not achieved to date.

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