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Regarding the Christmas extension a week prior to Christmas for the Major shopping centres trading until midnight. It would be good to have the Buz lines and other  High Frequency Train and bus lines in SEQ extended bi directional until 0100 from the 19-23 Dec to ensure people can shop later and that workers can get home. At least that would be something. Any last leg can be done by private vehicle or Taxi/Uber. (A snap marketing campaign can be advertised via the TransLink Website and digital advertising boards @ Bus stops, Train stations and major arterial roads).

Quote19 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight
20 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight
21 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight
22 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight
Sunshine Plaza Shopping Centre located at 154-164 Horton Parade, Maroochydore QLD 4558, bounded by
Maroochydore Rd, Horton Parade, Plaza Parade, Southern Drive and Amaroo Street;
Robina Town Centre located at 19 Robina Town Centre Drive, Robina QLD 4230, within the boundaries of
Robina Town Centre Drive and Collyer Quays, Robina;
Pacific Fair Shopping Centre, within the boundaries of Lot 13 on Survey Plan 866294, County of Ward, Parish
of Gilston on title Reference 50025781 and situation on the corner of Hooker and Sunshine Boulevards,
Broadbeach Waters;
Kmart Oxenford shop located at 15 Global Plaza, Oxenford QLD 4210, within the boundaries of Tamborine-
Oxenford Road, Leo Graham Way and Global Plaza;
Westfield North Lakes Shopping Centre located at the corner of Anzac Avenue and North Lakes Drive, North
Lakes QLD 4509, within the boundaries of Anzac Avenue, North Lakes Drive, Stapleton Street and Prospect
Street;
Indooroopilly Shopping Centre located at 322 Moggill Road, Indooroopilly QLD 4068, within the boundaries
of Moggill Road, Stamford Road and Musgrave Road;
Westfield Garden City Shopping Centre located at the corner of Logan and Kessels Roads, Upper Mount
Gravatt, Qld 4122, bounded by Logan Road, Kessels Road and Macgregor Street;
Westfield Chermside Shopping Centre located at the corner of Gympie Road and Hamilton Road Chermside
QLD 4032, bounded by Gympie Road, Hamilton Road and Kittyhawk Drive;
Westfield Carindale Shopping Centre located at 1151 Creek Road, Carindale, QLD 4152, within the
boundaries of Creek Road, Old Cleveland Road and Carindale Street; and
Area of City Heart of Inner City Brisbane

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Sent to all outlets:

19th October 2016

Extended Christmas Trading Hours - What Is The Public Transport Plan?

Greetings,

RAIL Back on Track has become aware that trading hours in the lead up to Christmas will
be extended this year. Major shopping centres will be trading until midnight. Is there any
provision to get customers, workers and their shopping home with extra bus and train services?

Or will workers and shoppers be stranded with no public transport?

It is important that key rail and bus corridors are serviced so that passengers can get their
Christmas shopping and gifts home.

Can the Transport Minister please confirm what the arrangements for this year are?

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
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References:

19 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight
20 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight
21 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight
22 December 2016 8.00 a.m. Midnight

Sunshine Plaza Shopping Centre located at 154-164 Horton Parade, Maroochydore QLD 4558, bounded by
Maroochydore Rd, Horton Parade, Plaza Parade, Southern Drive and Amaroo Street;

Robina Town Centre located at 19 Robina Town Centre Drive, Robina QLD 4230, within the boundaries of
Robina Town Centre Drive and Collyer Quays, Robina;

Pacific Fair Shopping Centre, within the boundaries of Lot 13 on Survey Plan 866294, County of Ward, Parish
of Gilston on title Reference 50025781 and situation on the corner of Hooker and Sunshine Boulevards,
Broadbeach Waters;

Kmart Oxenford shop located at 15 Global Plaza, Oxenford QLD 4210, within the boundaries of Tamborine-
Oxenford Road, Leo Graham Way and Global Plaza;

Westfield North Lakes Shopping Centre located at the corner of Anzac Avenue and North Lakes Drive, North
Lakes QLD 4509, within the boundaries of Anzac Avenue, North Lakes Drive, Stapleton Street and Prospect
Street;

Indooroopilly Shopping Centre located at 322 Moggill Road, Indooroopilly QLD 4068, within the boundaries
of Moggill Road, Stamford Road and Musgrave Road;

Westfield Garden City Shopping Centre located at the corner of Logan and Kessels Roads, Upper Mount
Gravatt, Qld 4122, bounded by Logan Road, Kessels Road and Macgregor Street;

Westfield Chermside Shopping Centre located at the corner of Gympie Road and Hamilton Road Chermside
QLD 4032, bounded by Gympie Road, Hamilton Road and Kittyhawk Drive;

Westfield Carindale Shopping Centre located at 1151 Creek Road, Carindale, QLD 4152, within the
boundaries of Creek Road, Old Cleveland Road and Carindale Street; and Area of City Heart of Inner City Brisbane
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The Oxenford one is a bit perplexing to me - why not Helensvale just down the road, which has a K-mart and is next to the railway?

In public transport terms, it has 8 buses a day in both directions on route 723 to a stop around the corner at the "main" shopping centre, and nothing else.  The 720 and 725 stop in the neighbourhood but on the other side of the M1 (ie not within practical walking distance even during the day, much less at night when they also don't run after around 7pm).  On weekends, it gets a grant total of 4 buses a day in both directions.
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#46
Public submissions sought for the Statewide Retail Trading Hour Review ----> http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2016/10/19/public-submissions-sought-on-queensland-retail-trading-hours-review?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

QuoteStatements QLD



Minister for Employment and Industrial Relations, Minister for Racing and Minister for Multicultural Affairs
The Honourable Grace Grace

Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Public submissions sought on Queensland retail trading hours review

The Palaszczuk Government has released an Issues Paper inviting the public to have its say on options for retail trading hours reform in Queensland.

"Over the next month, the Government is seeking submissions from interested parties for its review of retail trading hours in Queensland," Industrial Relations Minister Grace Grace said.

"The independent review is in response to concerns from business and the community that our trading hours arrangements are too complex.

"It has the potential to unlock $200 million in annual economic benefit to the State.

"The review will be conducted by an independent Trading Hours Review Reference Group, chaired by QUT School of Justice Associate Professor and former Speaker of the Queensland Legislative Assembly John Mickel.

"The group includes key business representatives such as the Queensland Tourism Industry Counsel, as well as relevant unions.

"This is the first major review since 1994 to examine the current system and to make recommendations on improving trading hours regulation."

Mr Mickel said Queensland trading hours vary across the state and within zones.

"This review is about delivering sensible economic reform to benefit consumers, while delivering for workers and business," he said.

Written submissions are sought by close of business Friday 14 November 2016 and can be made by email totradinghoursreview@justice.qld.gov.au or  posted to the Chair, Trading Hours Review Reference Group, C/- Office of Industrial Relations, PO Box 69, BRISBANE  QLD  4001

Further details can be found at http://www.treasury.qld.gov.au/fair-safe-work/industrial-relations-policy-regulation/trading-hours-review/index.php

Media Contact: Martin Philip 0427 919 548             

© The State of Queensland 1997-2016

ozbob

Brisbanetimes --> Queensland trading hours review issues paper calling for submissions

QuoteThe debate over shaking up Queensland's retail trading hours is more complex than just a fight between big business and small corner stores, an issues paper says.

The Palaszczuk government released the paper on Wednesday, inviting the public to have a say on options for retail trading hours reform as part of its review.

The report illuminates how restrictions may encourage shoppers to make purchases online, outside of trading hours, rather than locally during trading hours, and the growing number of households with dual incomes or single parents contributing to many people being time-poor.

It also points out that negative impacts of extended trading hours on small business may be "overstated".

A review headed by economist Professor Ian Harper in 2015 handed to the federal government highlighted that independent businesses were able to differentiate their offerings to fulfil consumer demand and compete in the face of deregulated trading hours.

And a survey by the Chamber of Commerce and Industry Queensland in 2014 found while businesses were concerned about the impact of deregulation, about two-thirds said there would be no impact on sales, profitability, employment and investment if trading hours were to be deregulated.

The review will be conducted by an independent Trading Hours Review Reference Group, chaired by QUT School of Justice Associate Professor and former Speaker of the Queensland Legislative Assembly John Mickel.

In a foreword to the paper, Mr Mickel said the argument for or against the regulation of trading hours was often seen as a battle between the interests of the big chain stores and smaller independents.

"(But) the concerns being raised by business owners and the wider community are broader and more complex," Mr Mickel said.

Those issues include whether current trading hours adequately reflect Queenslanders' shopping and leisure preferences and how that balances with the needs of retail workers, has the current framework led to unintended consequences for employment and small business growth, and are current trading hours detracting from the state's appeal as a tourist destination.

Industrial Relations Minister Grace Grace said the government was calling for submissions from interested parties for its review of retail trading hours in Queensland.

"The independent review is in response to concerns from business and the community that our trading hours arrangements are too complex," Ms Grace said.

"It has the potential to unlock $200 million in annual economic benefit to the state."

The group includes business representatives, such as the Queensland Tourism Industry Counsel, and unions.

It is the first major review since 1994 to examine the current system and make recommendations on improving trading hours regulation.

In Queensland, trading hours are decided by a combination of regulations set out in the Trading Hours Act and decisions of the Queensland Industrial Relations Commission, and vary across the state and within zones.

Meanwhile, Rail Back on Track spokesman Robert Dow has called for a review of public transport as part of any extension of retail trading hours.

"I think they need to review the timetables and perhaps finish a bit later than they do with some of the key routes into those major shopping centres, such as Indooroopilly," Mr Dow said.

"You need to think about the workers too - not everyone has a car - particularly the younger ones working in shops and they need to be able to access public transport if they're going to be working longer and public transport needs to match that."

Earlier in October, the state's industrial relations commission granted an extension of trading hours for major south-east Queensland retailers.

For more details on the government's review, visit http://www.treasury.qld.gov.au/trading-hours-review.
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Couriermail --> Queensland trading hours: 24-hour trading shopped around

QuoteQUEENSLAND'S complex web of trading hours could be ripped up to allow shops to open whenever they like, barring some public holidays.

Industrial Relations Min­ister Grace Grace said the changes could boost the state's economy by $200 million a year.

Ms Grace is now asking shoppers and shop owners their opinions on the trading hours shake-up.

A 77-page issues paper ­published by the Queensland Trading Hours Review outlines reform options available from "substantial de­regulation" to retaining the status quo.

The paper outlines the 107 different rules that govern shop opening hours in Queensland, plus the long list of shop types that are ­exempt or partially exempt from the rulings.

It also compares the existing regimen to the simpler, ­deregulated models that are ­already in place in NSW, Victoria and Tasmania.

Traders can open at any time in those states, with restrictions only on ­public holidays such as Anzac Day, Christmas Day and Good Friday.

The paper specifically asks whether the approach adopted by other states should be ­embraced here.

Chamber of Commerce and Industry Queensland spokesman Nick Behrens said its submission would likely suggest that Parliament pass legisla­tion stipulating trading hours for the biggest players but ­allowing all other businesses to open as they wish.

He said deregulation might benefit the economy, but that benefit would flow to Coles and Woolworths and their subsidiaries to the detriment of smaller businesses.

"There is very few instruments available to deal with the duopoly of Woolworths and Coles," he said. "It's a crude instrument, but the only one that we have."

National Retail Association chief executive Dominique Lamb said that its members wanted uniform opening hours of 7am-9pm throughout Queensland, rather than total deregulation.

"We recognise that, culturally, Australians see Sunday as a different day and that will probably be treated differently," she said.

"But we would like all businesses to be able to trade on a Sunday across the state.

"We really want Queensland to become more of a cosmopolitan location for everyone."

The paper noted fears that scrapping opening hours rules would see 24-hour shopping that had not been realised in other states.

The Federal Government's Harper Review last year found that deregulated opening hours was "overdue".
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Letter to the Editor Queensland Times 20th October 2016 page 15

Helping to get the presents home

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#50
Some great articles there. Thanks for the input with BT and advocating for a later improved timetable for the recent  Retail Trading Hour extension and temporary Christmas extension.

verbatim9

Public submissions need to be received by 14Nov16 to help reshape Queensland's retail landscape https://t.co/2wsKkwrUEj Retail Deregulation?

verbatim9

Retail Trading Hours Review Submissions close end of business today tradinghoursreview@justice.qld.gov.au Be interesting what the Queensland's general population thoughts were and what the Review Panel will recommend to the Government in December?


verbatim9

New Opening Hours and Christmas Extension of Trading Hours @ Coles Chermside and Woolworths Garden City. Other locations extended respectively.

7-9 from 01Dec Mon-Sat, 7-midnight from 19 Dec,  23 Dec 24hours until 24 Dec 9pm .


#Metro

RESULT

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Let it be known:

QuoteBrisbane City Council has decided to fund the new routes by itself – at a cost of just over $19,400 to cut short complaints that there was not enough public transport when the shopping hours where extended.

Extra late night Christmas buses for Brisbane
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/extra-late-night-christmas-buses-for-brisbane-20161129-gt0a5w.html
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Quote from: @Metro on November 29, 2016, 22:54:21 PM
RESULT

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Let it be known:

QuoteBrisbane City Council has decided to fund the new routes by itself – at a cost of just over $19,400 to cut short complaints that there was not enough public transport when the shopping hours where extended.

Extra late night Christmas buses for Brisbane
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/extra-late-night-christmas-buses-for-brisbane-20161129-gt0a5w.html
Good I hope its well advertised via flash ads on the web etc... Electronic bill boards at bus stops train stations and arterial roads.

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I can confirm that the Retail review outcomes were reported back to the State Government just prior to Christmas in December 16. Announcements will be made in the coming months pertaining to those outcomes.

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Couriermail Quest --> Brisbane City Council extends Saturday library opening hours

QuoteWEEKEND library lovers will soon be able to enjoy extended opening hours at their favourite hub.

Lord Mayor Graham Quirk has delivered on his 2016 election promise extending the opening hours of the 33 Brisbane City Council libraries.

"Starting from tomorrow, our libraries will be easier to visit and borrow from, with every venue opening from 9am to 4pm, every Saturday," Cr Quirk said.

Previously, most libraries were operating for only a few hours on a Saturday.

The extension comes as part of a $10.3 million library enhancement program to improve the public's access to the facilities.

"These longer opening hours will provide an even greater opportunity for people to visit libraries, whether it is after a busy Saturday morning at sporting commitments, or doing the weekly shopping," he said

Cr Quirk said the libraries would continue to provide a range of programs including reading and literacy programs for children.

"Each year council libraries host more than 60 authors at more than 90 events as part of the Lord Mayor's Writers in Residence series, engaging with high profile national and international authors around reading, writing and literature," he said.

Council libraries had 6 million visitors last year with more than 9 million items borrowed by the public.

Fast facts about Brisbane Libraries for 2015/16:

• 9.2 million loans and downloads from Council's physical and digital library collections

• 18,133 library programs, with 483,828 attendees

• 289,615 children, parents and carers attended Library early literacy programs.

• 6 million visitors, including 820,000 attending on Saturdays
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First stage of Retail Deregulation unveiled

http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/queensland-shopping-hours-restrictions-to-be-lifted/news-story/720403b42dfdf8a2ba263cc63e6de7da




QuoteQueensland shopping hours restrictions to be lifted

Steven Wardill, State affairs editor, The Courier-Mail


HARDWARE stores, butchers' shops and motor vehicle dealerships will be unleashed from Queensland's contradictory and confusing regime of trading hours restrictions.

The Sunday Mail can reveal the independent review of Queensland's trading hours, recently handed to the *Palaszczuk Government, has recommended major reform to expand opening times and eradicate anomalies.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk yesterday confirmed Cabinet would soon tick off on the first tranche of trading-hour reforms, which would create jobs in the retail sector and be a boon for consumers.

verbatim9

Don't get too excited!? The report is out and looks like when SEQ could shop until 9pm on Christmas Eve, it's has been axed. All stores now must close at 6pm.

Some places have benefited from the review Gold Coast, New Farm, Tenneriffe, Port Douglas in extended hours.

The towns that have no Sunday Trading will remain so. Unless the Qirc orders otherwise.

The Qirc cannot make any new orders or changes to Trading Hours straight after recommendations have been put into law. So effectively has no power until moratorium is lifted.

Stores can now trade on Easter Sunday but remain closed on Labour Day, Anzac Day, Christmas Day and Good Friday.

Read here for more details

https://www.treasury.qld.gov.au/fair-safe-work/industrial-relations-policy-regulation/trading-hours-review/review-recommendations.php

ozbob

Brisbanetimes --> Trading hours set for reform in Queensland

QuoteHardware stores will open from 6am on Sundays and supermarkets in south-east Queensland will be allowed to open from 7am to 9pm six days a week under changes set to be introduced.

But there will not be a total deregulation of trading hours for all retailers.

The Queensland government publicly released a report into trading hours in Queensland, committing to implement almost all of the 13 recommendations.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said it was the biggest shake-up in trading hours in Queensland for more than 20 years.

"We are bringing Queensland into the contemporary age, we are saying people are working longer and harder but we also need to be flexible about where they can shop and when they can shop," Ms Palaszczuk said.

Industrial Relations Minister Grace Grace said it would deliver consistent and uncomplicated trading hours.

The changes will swap 99 different trading-hour provisions for six.

All non-exempt stores in south-east Queensland will be allowed to open from 7am to 9pm Monday to Saturday and 9am to 6pm Sundays and most public holidays.

Non-exempt stores include large retailers and supermarkets such as Coles and Woolworths, department stores, hardware stores and butcher shops.

Those stores outside south-east Queensland will be allowed to open 7am to 9pm on Monday to Friday and 7am to 6pm on Saturday.

The changes could help shops combat the lure of online shopping, with the Trading Hours Review Reference Group report stating that restricting trading hours reduced the industry's competitiveness, including with online retailers.

"Many retailers are unable to compete with larger online businesses around price, the primary motivation for consumers to shop online," the report reads.

"However, other factors, such as location, customer service and the consumer being able to view and receive their purchase at the point of sale are key comparative advantages for more traditional 'brick and mortar' businesses.

Concerns over the impact on small businesses were unfounded, the report said.

"There is little evidence that trading hours' restrictions have a material impact on the overall viability of small retail businesses, with similar rates of participation for small businesses in regulated and deregulated states and territories," the report reads.

It also suggests fewer trading hour restrictions may also result in lower prices for customers, as they would be given more choice to buy from other shops.

Cabinet decided not to allow trading on Sundays and public holidays in regional Queensland for communities that do not currently have the arrangement, despite it being recommended in the report.

Many regional towns are already covered by seven-day trading, and others - such as Warwick, Mt Isa, Bowen, Stanthorpe and Goondiwindi - can apply to the Queensland Industrial Relations Commission to opt-in.

Special and tourist areas - such as New Farm and Hamilton North Shore - will be allowed even longer hours for non-exempt stores, opening from 6am to 10pm Monday to Friday, 7am to 10pm Saturday and 7am to 9pm Sunday and most public holidays.

Hardware stores across the state will be allowed to open from 6am Monday to Sunday and most public holidays.

And butcher shops will be allowed to open when they want.

All non-exempt stores will be allowed to open until midnight Monday-Sunday from December 18-23, and close by 6pm on December 24.

This will not affect 24-hour shopping arrangements currently in place for Westfield Chermside and Garden City.

But it would mean large retailers would not have to make an application to the QIRC each year for extra hours during the festive season.

Shops in the category will also be allowed to open on Easter Sunday across the state, but close on Good Friday, Anzac Day, Labour Day and Christmas Day.

Businesses selling cars and caravans will also be allowed to open the same hours as supermarkets.

Protections will also be introduced to make sure that any agreement to work during any of the extended hours is voluntary for workers.

Trading Hours Review Reference Group chairman John Mickel said the changes would deliver red-tape reduction.

Allowing more stores to sell liquor was not part of the review, and Ms Palaszczuk said the government had no intention to pursue it.

The retail trade industry in Queensland employs 255,000 Queenslanders, or 11 per cent of jobs across the state, paying $9.9 billion in wages and accounting for $76 billion in sales.

The National Retailers' Association estimated substantial deregulation would deliver a $440 million boost to Queensland's economy and add the equivalent of 3109 full time jobs.
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#63

Qld residents can contact their local MP regarding any concerns regarding the Final Recommendations from the Retail Hour Review for Qld Retail. I have expressed concerns regarding a 6pm close for stores when Christmas Eve falls on Monday through to Saturday. 9pm close on Christmas eve Mon-Sat should still remain with employees working those hours on an opt in voluntarily basis only. How can a 6pm close on Christmas eve be effective when people are still at work until 5.30-6pm in urban areas, especially SEQ?  I also expressed the few Supermarkets allowed to open late in the Brisbane area during the year. I have suggested that the Tourism Precinct be widened from New Farm Tenneriffe to include Fortitude Valley, RNA, Brisbane CBD, Southbank, South Brisbane, Petrie Terrace, Woolloongabba and West End. To allow these areas with Non exempt stores to trade until 10pm Monday-Saturday and 9pm Sundays and most public holidays.

I have expressed these concerns primarily because once legislation is enacted on these recommendations it will be another 5 years before they are reviewed and changed. With changing retail conditions yearly. I don't think Qld, especially Brisbane CBD can be restricted to archaic store hours for another 5 years, especially when marketed as a "New World City".

petey3801

Quote9pm close on Christmas eve Mon-Sat should still remain with employees working those hours on an opt in voluntarily basis only.

And what happens if not enough people volunteer to work those hours? The store either closes early with little warning or people are forced to work those hours instead (and this being retail, the latter is the most likely outcome, especially people on salary who don't get much of a choice either way).
Also, when Christmas falls during the week, many/most offices have a half day on Christmas eve, finishing work around lunch time/mid afternoon.
All opinions stated are my own and do not reflect those held by my employer.

verbatim9

Quote from: petey3801 on February 23, 2017, 11:08:07 AM
Quote9pm close on Christmas eve Mon-Sat should still remain with employees working those hours on an opt in voluntarily basis only.

And what happens if not enough people volunteer to work those hours? The store either closes early with little warning or people are forced to work those hours instead (and this being retail, the latter is the most likely outcome, especially people on salary who don't get much of a choice either way).
Also, when Christmas falls during the week, many/most offices have a half day on Christmas eve, finishing work around lunch time/mid afternoon.
LoL not all business's shut at 1pm on Christmas eve. Maybe some people take leave or flex off early. There would be a number of volunteers to fill the positions especially students that work at Supermarkets and Discount Department stores like Kmart. The report also states regarding the proposed extended hours during the year there will be legislation apparently to make it voluntary to start at 6am or 7am statewide wide and finish at 10pm and Easter Sunday. So will the stores shut during the year and Easter Sunday then? 

petey3801

Which is why I said many offices close early on Christmas eve, not all.
As I said, what happens if there aren't enough 'volunteers' to work? The store closes or people are 'voluntold' (as my other half likes to say) to work those hours. Also, casuals don't exactly get much choice about what they're working in the first place! No volunteering there...
Now, we all know what the majors are like, they won't be closing, so there will most certainly be people who will be working that don't want to be during those times. If you honestly believe they won't roster staff on whondon't want to be there at those times out of the goodness of their hearts and take a hit on potential profits,you've got rocks in your head.
And seriously, if people can't get to and do their Christmas shopping before 6pm on Christmas eve, they may need to look at themselves instead of whinging about the stores closing 3hrs early on one night of the year.
Do I agree with closing at 6pm Christmas eve? I honestly don't care enough to form an opinion about it. I'm just laughing at the prospect of having the stores run only on staff who have 'volunteered' to be there.
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verbatim9

Basically when you are a casual you kind of know the conditions prior to signing up to work. Many stores run Christmas casuals for 2-3months around Christmas. People just want the money and know what's involved.

petey3801

Well aware of that, however your plan revolves around people only working the later shift if they volunteer. Can't have it both ways! Either the stores stay open only with staff who have volunteered to be there or there is an extremely high likelihood of staff working that shift when they dont want to, not both. Just because someone is casual doesn't mean they have volunteered to work any shift at any time of day.
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verbatim9

Quote from: petey3801 on February 23, 2017, 16:58:34 PM
Well aware of that, however your plan revolves around people only working the later shift if they volunteer. Can't have it both ways! Either the stores stay open only with staff who have volunteered to be there or there is an extremely high likelihood of staff working that shift when they dont want to, not both. Just because someone is casual doesn't mean they have volunteered to work any shift at any time of day.
Yep realise that so you are under the assumption that people will not work unless they have too. As stated in the report and also the Industrial relations ministers directive that it will be voluntary during the year to work early and late, prior to 8am and after 9pm. I can't see Easter being any different to Christmas eve.

#Metro


Private businesses are more than capable of managing their own internal affairs.

All trading hours should be deregulated en masse for all industries. No prescription for opening or closing times with the sole exception

being designated days of the year (e.g. ANZAC, Christmas etc).

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petey3801

Quote from: verbatim9 on February 23, 2017, 17:13:52 PM
Quote from: petey3801 on February 23, 2017, 16:58:34 PM
Well aware of that, however your plan revolves around people only working the later shift if they volunteer. Can't have it both ways! Either the stores stay open only with staff who have volunteered to be there or there is an extremely high likelihood of staff working that shift when they dont want to, not both. Just because someone is casual doesn't mean they have volunteered to work any shift at any time of day.
Yep realise that so you are under the assumption that people will not work unless they have too. As stated in the report and also the Industrial relations ministers directive that it will be voluntary during the year to work early and late, prior to 8am and after 9pm. I can't see Easter being any different to Christmas eve.

Many people would likely prefer to not work until late Christmas eve. Some will, but highly unlikely to be enough to run a store. "Voluntary" in retail generally goes along the lines of "These are your hours for next week - Don't like them, there's the door".
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verbatim9

In other states and just over the border and Woolworths DFO. No problems with working Christmas eve or Statewide in Qld previous years. There should be no problem going forward working Christmas eve for some industries including retail until 9pm, since it has been common practice in previous years.

#Metro

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petey3801

The only thing I have a problem with is your plan to have only staff who volunteer working those hours, because I know for a fact that if there aren't enough  'volunteers', people will be told to work it. Take 'volunteer' out of your plan and all is well, simple.
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achiruel

Quote from: @Metro on February 23, 2017, 22:23:43 PM
Just phone the union rep if you have problems.

Hahahaha you're kidding right? The SDA must be the most ineffectual union in the country-in fact, it's so right wing, I'm surprised it hasn't become affiliated with the LNP. SDA exists for one reason only, to fill their own pockets with kickbacks from big retailers like Wesfarmers and Woolworths in exchange for their members getting paid below award wages.

verbatim9

#76
Submissions now open until March, 24 4pm for feedback on the proposed change in retail hours.

Should stores close at 6pm sharp on Christmas eve? Or is it best to allow flexibility until 9pm for at least Supermarkets when Christmas eve falls on a Monday-Saturday.

A wider rezoned Tourist Precinct to include Fortitude Valley, RNA, Brisbane CBD Woolloongabba (West of Ipswich Road) South Bank, South Brisbane, West end and Petrie Terrace? This will allow non exempt stores to trade until 10pm Monday-Saturday and until 9pm Sundays and most public holidays. To cater for local residents and help the CBD area grow as a 7 day/night destination. Allow for tourism growth over the next 5 years. As no changes will be allowed for up to 5 years when this bill is past due to Moratorium.

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/work-of-committees/committees/FAC/inquiries/current-inquiries/Tradinghoursbill2017

*Any Queensland Resident of any age can write a submission into the parliamentary committee. People don't need to be on the electoral role, but just need to be Residents of Qld*

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Interesting article regarding the proposed retail reforms didn't go far enough. Read full article here

QuoteGuest post from Rod Bogaards: Trading hours' report fails to make the case for continued regulation in Qld

I am delighted to publish this guest post from my fellow economist Rod Bogaards, currently a consultant to the World Bank, on the recent Queensland trading hours review by John Mickel. GT

Trading hours' report fails to make the case for continued regulation in Queensland

by Rod Bogaards

The*Mickel Report*recommendations are a step in the right direction to address the over-regulation of retail trading hours in Queensland. But given less restrictive retail trading hours are in place in most other Australian jurisdictions, it begs the question: Did the report go far enough?

Following the release of the report, the*Queensland Government*was quick to announce its support for nearly all of the recommendations.

Unfortunately for Queensland, the report's recommendations do not appear to be the result of a dispassionate assessment of the viable reform options, but a negotiated outcome of special interest groups. That is, analysis appears to have taken a back seat to consensus.

This is perhaps not surprising, given the Trading Hours Review Reference Group comprised representatives from business associations and unions:

National Retail Association Chamber of Commerce and Industry Queensland, Master Grocers Australia, Queensland Tourism Industry Council, Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association, Australian Workers Union, United Voice, Queensland Council of Unions.<br />
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The most notable omission was a consumer representative to counter interest group arguments

Qld residents still have the opportunity to voice their opinion and feedback for possible amendments via submission until 24 March 17

Have your submission ready? Email the committee here



verbatim9

News Limited published an article earlier this eve regarding the Trading Hours Bill being blocked. Can the possibility of Packaged Liquor being able to be sold in Independent Supermarkets be a sweeter to help the Bill pass?

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/crossbench-to-block-qld-trading-hours-bill/news-story/4ac05a57f4ba2d8eec8803837c20f5a3

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Just adding to this topic regarding ideas to help the Bill pass. If the Blue and Red team allow all Supermarkets under 1500sqm to obtain a packaged licence to sell Liquor instore and stores over 1500sqm require a seperate petitioned area and or inconnecting adjacent liquor store as these stores would likely sell more bulk than compliment their grocery offering. Hence a smaller store would pay less for a packaged liquor licence than a larger store over 1500sqm. This would allow all Supermarket brands to obtain a packaged liquor licence if the want or require one in Qld and compensate for extra hours given to non exempt stores to trade such as Woolies and Coles. The Government would also have another revenue stream due to extra packaged liquor licences.

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