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Couriermail --> The deal that will change the city skyline forever

QuoteWORK will begin within weeks on building the multi-billion Queen's Wharf development set to transform the Brisbane cityscape.

Australian-based global construction giant Multiplex has been awarded preferred contractor status for the major components of the $3.6 billion tourism precinct in the CBD.

It will include the main integrated casino resort building with its eye-catching arc-shaped facade overlooking the Brisbane River and the iconic 100m-high Sky Deck with 360-degree views of the city.

The contract also covers three high-rise towers to house luxury hotels, eventually providing more than 1000 rooms plus dining and retail facilities, and an apartment block.

The building fit-outs will be done later under separate contracts.

"Multiplex will build five levels of basement carpark, the resort back-of-house facilities including kitchen, laundry, staff cafeteria, amenities and central energy plant," said Simon Crooks, project director with the Destination Brisbane Consortium (DBC) behind Queen's Wharf.

"It's a massive contract that will include 370,000sq m of floor area and 105,000sq m of energy-efficient glazed facade.

"We are confident that Multiplex will do a great job delivering what will become a major tourism drawcard to Queensland and a place the city's locals will embrace," Mr Crooks said.

The contract, which has to be signed off by the State Government, is understood to be worth about $1 billion.

Multiplex got the nod ahead of the other short-listed candidate, Hutchinson Builders.

Work is due to start mid-year, reaching the level of George St by late next year with the first stage expected to be complete in late 2022.

Up to 2000 workers will be employed at the peak of construction.

Queen's Wharf, covering a fifth of the CBD, is the biggest tourist development in the state's history, expected to increase visitor numbers to Queensland by 1.4 million a year and raise tourists' spending by $1.7 billion.

Once operational, the precinct will employ 8000 people.

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk welcomed the "major milestone".

"Our priority is jobs and this project provides thousands – in construction and in operating this city's changing development," she said.

"And it flows through the entire economy with demand for goods and services for decades to come."

Tourism Industry Development Minister Kate Jones said Queen's Wharf would change the face of Brisbane and create jobs.

"This is great news for Queensland's construction industry and a boon for Brisbane because we know when our construction industry is booming, so is our economy," Ms Jones said.

Multiplex regional managing director Graham Cottam said: "The Queen's Wharf development is undoubtedly one of the state's most important and nationally-significant projects, and we are of course thrilled to be given the responsibility to bring DBC's vision to fruition."

The firm is responsible for some of Queensland's most recognisable buildings including the Hilton Gold Coast hotel, Riparian Plaza at Eagle St in Brisbane and the State Government's 1 William St "Tower of Power" adjacent to Queen's Wharf.

Its projects also include the new W Hotel and the under-construction The One residential tower in the Brisbane Quarter.

The Destination Brisbane Consortium partners are casino owner-operator The Star Entertainment Group, Hong Kong-based consumer and hospitality investment company Cow Tai Fook Enterprises and property and Australasian hotel developers, Far East Consortium.
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Couriermail --> Future Tourism: 'Catalytic' Queens Wharf project will transform Brisbane's night-life

QuoteBrisbane's massive Queen's Wharf development is set to lead a tourism and night-life transformation to rival that of Singapore.

THE developers of the Queen's Wharf precinct say it will have the "Singapore effect" – making Brisbane a vibrant city buzzing with night-life and igniting tourism initiatives across the wider region for years to come.

The $3.6 billion integrated casino-resort under construction across more than 12 hectares of CBD land is the centrepiece of the Queensland capital's push to position itself as a global tourism magnet, as well as a launch pad for the southeast corner.

Star Entertainment Group chief executive Matt Bekier said Queen's Wharf, which is due to open in 2022, would be a "unique urban resort" in the city heart, opening access to the river and bay beyond and highlighting some of Brisbane's most important heritage buildings.

Features including the distinctive arc-shaped entertainment building, parks, more than 50 restaurants, cafes, bars and microbreweries, a range of retail outlets including many new to Australia, and attractions such as an outdoor moonlight cinema and a zip line across the Brisbane River to South Bank, meant there would always be something happening, day or night.

And the rooftop Sky Deck, with 360-degree views as well as a glass bottom section looking 100 metres down to the ground, would provide that iconic "selfie" location.

Queen's Wharf is expected to attract an additional 1.4 million visitors to Brisbane each year. But Mr Bekier said it would also have a catalytic effect on tourism.

"Singapore is a very interesting case study because when Marina Bay Sands (an integrated casino-resort) was built, they felt an initial push of tourists but now what's happening there is that so much more additional tourism infrastructure going in on the back of it," he said.

That included Gardens by the Bay– a 101-hecatare oasis and arts, culture and entertainment zone which is now one of the world's 20 most-searched places on Facebook.

Singapore has also become world-renowned for its cutting edge urban architecture.

MONA – the Museum Of New and Old Art – had a similar impact on tourism in Hobart and Tasmania, Mr Bekier said. "I hope that Brisbane will develop in exactly the same way where we provide the initial impetus and energy and focal point, but then there's additional development that comes organically because there are more tourists who are looking to do more things," he said.

"If there's enough to do in the city, we will go from a two-day international visit to a four or five-day international visit because there are so many exciting things to do."

James Tuma, national director of city-shaping specialists Urbis, said Queen's Wharf was a pivotal part of a series of existing and emerging entertainment and entertainment zones. They are linked by their location on, or in proximity to, the Brisbane River.

Mr Tuma said the river would increasingly take on iconic status over coming years. "I think we're going to see the image of the city develop around the river as the new global image of Brisbane, which is fantastic," he said.

The city is coming to life along the banks of the river.

Howard Smith Wharves has rapidly established itself as the place to be seen. The nearby Eagle St Pier/City Reach stretch of river's edge is the subject of a master planning process, with Dexus investing $1.4 billion on its waterfront precinct that will create 1.5 hectares of new public space and mixed-use development.

The Riverstage live music venue in the Botanic Gardens could be in line for a facelift after 30 years, and new walkways and bikeways including a Mangrove Walk with indigenous trail will link the Goodwill Bridge at QUT to Queen's Wharf. A new Waterline Park will transform the concrete jungle under the Riverside Expressway. And the recently-opened W Hotel is the centrepiece of a new Brisbane Quarter retail and dining precinct on North Quay.

On the other side of the river, the cultural precinct – including GOMA, the Queensland Art Gallery and Queensland Performing Arts Centre (QPAC), Queensland Museum and State Library – is already regarded as the best in the country and will grow with the addition of another $150m 1500-seat theatre due to open by 2022.

A master plan is being drawn up for South Bank Parklands – Brisbane's leading visitor drawcard since its development off the back of Expo 88 – which could see it expand by two-thirds with a pedestrian boulevard linking it to Musgrave Park.

Following the river's curve adjacent to South Bank is Kurilpa Point, 25 hectares of prime land earmarked for a vibrant new waterfront neighbourhood of 11,000 residents packed with dining options, a waterfront park and amphitheatre and cultural facilities. It feeds into the revitalised South Brisbane suburb with its trendy laneways of restaurants, street art, live entertainment and festivals.

And Brisbane City Council is rolling out its river access network of jetties, pontoons and boat ramps to boost the number of tourist boats, water taxis, leisure boats, jetskis and kayaks, canoes and paddleboards on the river.

New Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner has also unveiled a $550 million plan for five new "green" bridges across the river over the next decade.

Mr Tuma said the focus on the river would inevitably lead to greater activity along the waterfront of the University of Queensland campus and revitalise Milton and Toowong, along with The Powerhouse area at New Farm and the music hub in Fortitude Valley.

Enormous development is planned for the former Army site in Bulimba and the previously industrial expanse along Hamilton Northshore, which is the possible site of a major Brisbane Seafood Market advocated by Tourism Australia chief executive John O'Sullivan to rival the Sydney Fish markets, which attracts three million people a year.

Former Brisbane marketing chief John Aitken, who now heads the Inspiring Cities consultancy, agrees the river is critical to future night-life.

He suggests illuminations similar to those some Asian cities – perhaps lights on CityCats as well as riverfront night markets – could add "vibrancy and energy". Mr Aitken, who launched Riverfestival and Riverfire which now attracts half a million people, said those events were examples of what could be done.

A little way back from the river – and set to be connected by the new $5.4 billion Cross River Rail and $1 billion metro public transport systems – is a string of top-class current and planned sports and entertainment venues.

On the southside, The Gabba will undergo a $100 million revamp at the heart of a new precinct, while on the northside, the Cross River Rail Delivery Authority is still working on proposals to include construction of the $2 billion Brisbane Live indoor arena above the train lines as part of the new Roma St Station zone.

It will be within walking distance of the country's best rectangular football venue, Suncorp Stadium, and Victoria Park Golf Course – set be transformed into a 45-hectare green sanctuary of gardens, woodlands and water features to become Brisbane's equivalent of Central Park in New York or London's Hyde Park.

And that is in walking distance of the RNA Showgrounds, which has undergone a $4 billion redevelopment, and the new Herston Quarter precinct.

Just minutes away, both the Mayne Rd Railyards at Bowen Hills and Albion Park Raceway have been identified as likely sites for major venues should southeast Queensland secure the 2032 Olympic Games, including the main stadium to host the opening and closing ceremonies.

ALL QUIET ON LIVE PROPOSAL

BRISBANE Live has become the $2 billion elephant in the room. Silence surrounds the Palaszczuk Government's intentions for the proposal to build an indoor sports and entertainment arena and precinct above Roma Street Station.

The brainchild of Harvey Lister, chairman of international venues operator AEG Ogden, the proposal was taken under the wing of the Cross River Rail Delivery Authority last year. The Government allocated $5 million to develop a Brisbane Live business case, which was handed to Treasurer Jackie Trad before Christmas.

But more than six months later, the Government will not say when it will be released.

A spokeswoman for Ms Trad last night said it remained under consideration.

The planned 17,000-seat arena has also been identified as a potential Olympics venue.
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Brisbanetimes --> Design of Brisbane's latest pedestrian bridge revealed


The concept design for the Neville Bonner Bridge, from Queen's Wharf to South Brisbane, has been released. QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT

QuoteThe design of the newest pedestrian link across the Brisbane River, the Neville Bonner Bridge, has been revealed.

Tourism Industry Development Minister Kate Jones was set to announce on Wednesday that tenders had closed for the contract to build the new CBD bridge, and were being assessed.

She also released new concept images, which show the Neville Bonner Bridge spanning the Brisbane River south of the Victoria and Kurilpa bridges.

The Neville Bonner Bridge, named after Australia's first Indigenous parliamentarian, will link South Bank with the $3.6 billion Queen's Wharf development.

It has a relatively simple design, featuring what looks like an incomplete "M", and will stand in contrast with the complex structure of the Kurilpa Bridge.

When the $63.3 million Kurilpa footbridge was first built, it was described as oversized knitting needles, a mobile magpie deflector and even a dead spider lying on its back.

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However, the 425-metre bridge was later hailed a work of engineering genius after it won an Australian Engineering Excellence Award.

Ms Jones said construction on the Neville Bonner Bridge would begin in early 2020 and be complete by mid-2022.

"We expect that by having this new connection of the Brisbane River, which has been talked about since I first started working on a North Bank document in 2001, this brand new bridge will deliver around 1.4 million additional people, we expect to use the bridge each and every year crossing between, as I said, the north of the river and South Bank," she said.

Ms Jones said about 100 labourers, engineers, designers and other workers would work on the bridge.

"Once the tender is awarded, the contractor will recruit the next wave of labourers to work on this historic project," she said.

"The Neville Bonner Bridge will be the pivotal link between South Bank and Queen's Wharf - with 50 new restaurants and bars and a world class retail hub."

Ms Jones said the pedestrian bridge would land near the wheel at South Bank, which would continue operating during construction.

Senator Bonner was initially appointed to fill a casual Senate vacancy in 1971 and served until 1983.

In 1979 he was named Australian of the Year.

Stage one of construction for Queen's Wharf's new Waterline Park, Mangrove Walk and Bicentennial Bikeway upgrade between 1 William Street and the Goodwill Bridge have begun.

The Mangrove Walk and Waterline Park public spaces were expected to be finished before Christmas.


The position of the bridge along the Brisbane River. DESTINATION BRISBANE CONSORTIUM
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Couriermail --> Builder appointed for Neville Bonner Bridge linking South Bank and Queen's Wharf


Artist's impression of the Neville Bonner Bridge. Picture: Destination Brisbane Consortium.

QuotePLANS have been finalised and a builder appointed for a new pedestrian bridge crossing the Brisbane River.

Construction of the Neville Bonner Bridge, linking South Bank with the Queen's Wharf development, will create 30 full-time jobs.

Fitzgerald Constructions, which has previously worked on bridges at the Star Casino on the Gold Coast and in Melbourne, has been appointed as the preferred contractor.

Work is expected to begin in March next year, subject to state government approval.

A Fitzgerald Constructions spokesman said the company was immensely proud to be building the Neville Bonner Bridge.

The bridge is named after Neville Thomas Bonner, who was the first indigenous Australian to become a member of the Australian parliament.

Queen's Wharf is a $3.6 billion project which, when completed in 2022, will have a casino, more than 50 restaurants, bars and cafes as well as 1.5 hectares of public space.

It is projected to attract an extra 1.4 million people to Brisbane each year when complete.

Destination Brisbane Consortium project leader Simon Crook said linking South Bank and Queen's Wharf created a complementary offering.

"The bridge lands right in front of the wheel, which is in direct pedestrian contact with South Bank station," Mr Crook said. "South Bank have been very proactive in this discussion."

"We've come up with them what we all think is the best solution for how pedestrian flow will move through that area," he said.

Mr Crook also said the public would receive the Neville Bonner Bridge "for free," since it will be paid for by Destination Brisbane and then transferred to the State Government after completion.
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Couriermail --> First look at game-changing 64-storey Queen's Wharf tower

QuoteAS THE $3.6 billion Queen's Wharf transforms the River City before our eyes, The Courier-Mail can exclusively reveal the first glimpse of the precinct's first residential tower, a sleek skyscraper set to soar 64 storeys above the streets of Brisbane.

Registrations of interest for the 667 apartments of Queen's Wharf Residences officially open on Saturday (Dec 27), with prices ranging from $550,000 to $3 million.

It is another significant milestone for the much-vaunted project heralded as a game-changer for the Brisbane River.

On track to open in 2022, Queen's Wharf will showcase four hotels, 50 restaurants, cafes and bars, an extensive retail precinct, refurbished heritage buildings and a ­publicly-accessible Sky Deck offering stunning CBD and river views.

In addition to Residences, Queen's Wharf has scope for up to five more residential towers, with construction dates yet to be finalised.

A pedestrian bridge will span the river to South Bank, while a spectacular flying fox has also been mooted.

Star's group executive of operations Geoff Hogg said the registration of interest for Queen's Wharf Residences would add another compelling chapter to the mega-­project's story.

"It's exciting that another phase of the Queen's Wharf development is set to come to life," he said.

"Work on the integrated resort is well under way and remains on track for an expected opening in 2022.

"It will ensure Brisbane is home to Australia's leading tourism and entertainment destination, and a significant driver of jobs and other economic benefits for Queensland. Now there's an opportunity for people to become a part of this history- making project and live within the precinct that will transform Brisbane."

Works on the apartment tower have already started, in conjunction with basement and podium works under way on the integrated resort.

The apartments are being developed by Far East Consortium and Chow Tai Fook, the joint-venture partners with Star in the Queen's Wharf development, and will feature a mix of one, two and three bedrooms.

General public sales of Residences apartments are expected to start in March with a visitor's centre and display suite set to open early next year.

It is part of a hat-trick of projects by the gaming giant gathering momentum across the east coast, including Star Gold Coast and Star Sydney
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Imagine if BUSES, TRAINS and FERRIES all called that place a stop, the Circular Quay of Brisbane....at an affordable price, with a double-decker "Bus and Train" Tunnel....but alas, instead, we needed yet another "world class" approach!    ::)
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aldonius

Are you for real?

Albert St station is smack-bang in the middle of the CBD. Where it should be.

SteelPan

ohh yeah, I'm for real, the proposal was for an underground train station at around where the new casino is to be, with a bus way and a shared tunnel - so you could have achieved train, bus AND ferry at a single inner city location. One day, book yourself on a flying "great silver bird" - get out and see the world, even go to Sydney and see that you CAN put multiple stations underground - that you could have linked the casino area transport hub, quickly with other parts of the CBD by underground arcades, with "them there moving walkways".....head for example to London and NYC....be completely stunned.......

Brissy and Brissyites.....turning 1900...soon!   :frs:
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Gazza

No, Albert st is the best location, because it has a better Catchment area.
Closer to the Queen Street mall, and pretty much everything in a 400m walk.
Its better located for places people go every day, offices, QUT etc.

George St station is at the top of a hill, And was too far off center so you'd have walk distances blowing out to over 800m
Besides people don't go to the casino on a daily basis, so it's not worth screwing over everyone else to make things better for people headed to the casino.



You can already change from bus to train at Roma Street and at Cultural Centre.

SteelPan

Be interesting to see how they get the Citycats into the new look Roma St....time will tell....train/bus/ferry.....  :-t   :co3
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aldonius

It's almost a 10 minute walk from George St out the front of Queens Wharf to either North Quay or QUT terminals. I wouldn't describe that as a single location.

Though it is certainly closer than Roma St is!

verbatim9

The historic Miller Park will be an integral feature of the Queen's Wharf development, providing pedestrian walkways with grassy landings and lush greenery.

Built on the foundations of Brisbane's rich history, Queen's Wharf Residences presents a once in a lifetime opportunity to live at the heart of a world-class entertainment precinct.

Find out more: https://qwresidences.com.au/

#HistoryInTheMaking #ItsAlmostTime #QueensWharfResidences #QueensWharf #FEC #Brisbane

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Quote from: Gazza on January 13, 2020, 15:57:34 PM
No, Albert st is the best location, because it has a better Catchment area.
Closer to the Queen Street mall, and pretty much everything in a 400m walk.
Its better located for places people go every day, offices, QUT etc.

George St station is at the top of a hill, And was too far off center so you'd have walk distances blowing out to over 800m
Besides people don't go to the casino on a daily basis, so it's not worth screwing over everyone else to make things better for people headed to the casino.



You can already change from bus to train at Roma Street and at Cultural Centre.

I understand that Campbell Newman moved the station from Albert St to Queens Wharf because Albert St flooded in 1974 and again in 2011. For a flood equivalent to the 1893 flood, there would be about 3.5 m of water in Albert St. There are photos of Festival Hall (which was opposite to the new station location) with about 1.5m of water at the entrance door.  There is a story that Jackie Trad moved the station back to Albert St purely because it was a Campbell Newman decision and it had to be reversed. I also understand that Jackie was asked to design the piling system for Queens wharf so that a tunnel could be built there at a later date. They tell me that Jackie refused to consider this option.

So you will need a 4.1m levee around the station to stop water from entering the station access to the tunnel. Also will you be able to operate the station when all the area around the station is under water.  A station at Queens Wharf would probably be operational during a 1974 or 2011 flood event

Gazza

Albert St will have flood barriers at the entrances.

I acknowledge that a George St station would remain open during a flood.

But to be honest, id rather have a station that closes once every 30 years rather than a station in a bad location for daily use.

Collectively, making everyone walk uphill to an off center station at George St would be a bigger inefficiency than closing it for a week once every 30 years (Particularly since in a major flood event the CBD would have less people wanting to go there!)

James

Quote from: SABB on January 18, 2020, 21:23:17 PMSo you will need a 4.1m levee around the station to stop water from entering the station access to the tunnel. Also will you be able to operate the station when all the area around the station is under water.  A station at Queens Wharf would probably be operational during a 1974 or 2011 flood event

When you have significant flood events, it is more about recovery rather than keeping the station operational. The levy will need to be designed to well above a 2011 flood level, because draining a tunnel is not an easy job!

If you look at 2011 - the entire city shut down & major arterials were closed. Once built, Brisbane Metro will also face a similar issue, so really it's not much justification for moving the station to George St given the inconvenience this poses.
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

JimmyP

Which is why most tunnels like these have built in pumping systems.

SteelPan

Quote from: James on January 20, 2020, 17:13:57 PM
Quote from: SABB on January 18, 2020, 21:23:17 PMSo you will need a 4.1m levee around the station to stop water from entering the station access to the tunnel. Also will you be able to operate the station when all the area around the station is under water.  A station at Queens Wharf would probably be operational during a 1974 or 2011 flood event

When you have significant flood events, it is more about recovery rather than keeping the station operational. The levy will need to be designed to well above a 2011 flood level, because draining a tunnel is not an easy job!

If you look at 2011 - the entire city shut down & major arterials were closed. Once built, Brisbane Metro will also face a similar issue, so really it's not much justification for moving the station to George St given the inconvenience this poses.

Who'd be walking up a hill in the 21stC....arcades...travelators etc.....surely Premier Trade would have insisted the foundations of Queens Wharf had future capacity for an underground rail corrid...hold on...hold on.....my mistake...it's "Brissy" no need for any future capacity to be built in......everyone back to the flat-Earth......
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verbatim9

Drivers in Brisbane's CBD won't be able to use Margaret Street between William and George Streets, including the exit ramps, from 8 o'clock tonight until 5am Thursday. https://t.co/VZ3A1cpmr5 #bnetraffic #7NEWS https://t.co/1qOvaAwK4Z

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1227148963263827968

verbatim9

#183
Quote from: verbatim9 on February 11, 2020, 20:18:07 PM
Drivers in Brisbane's CBD won't be able to use Margaret Street between William and George Streets, including the exit ramps, from 8 o'clock tonight until 5am Thursday. https://t.co/VZ3A1cpmr5 #bnetraffic #7NEWS https://t.co/1qOvaAwK4Z

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1227148963263827968
^^To install a temporary pedestrian footbridge for the Queens wharf project.

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Brisbane's largest development has powered ahead during COVID-19. Queens Wharf has reached a major milestone out of sight of most while the city has been largely empty. https://t.co/ly4o1sVyAG @STitmus7 #coronavirus #7NEWS https://t.co/FKlyCMkTiw


https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1258676694266728448

Gazza

Quote from: SteelPan on January 31, 2020, 15:49:51 PM
Quote from: James on January 20, 2020, 17:13:57 PM
Quote from: SABB on January 18, 2020, 21:23:17 PMSo you will need a 4.1m levee around the station to stop water from entering the station access to the tunnel. Also will you be able to operate the station when all the area around the station is under water.  A station at Queens Wharf would probably be operational during a 1974 or 2011 flood event

When you have significant flood events, it is more about recovery rather than keeping the station operational. The levy will need to be designed to well above a 2011 flood level, because draining a tunnel is not an easy job!

If you look at 2011 - the entire city shut down & major arterials were closed. Once built, Brisbane Metro will also face a similar issue, so really it's not much justification for moving the station to George St given the inconvenience this poses.

Who'd be walking up a hill in the 21stC....arcades...travelators etc.....surely Premier Trade would have insisted the foundations of Queens Wharf had future capacity for an underground rail corrid...hold on...hold on.....my mistake...it's "Brissy" no need for any future capacity to be built in......everyone back to the flat-Earth......

Why cant we build arcades and travellators from Albert St to the Citycat wharf and the Casino?

verbatim9

Quote from: Gazza on May 11, 2020, 13:49:52 PM
Quote from: SteelPan on January 31, 2020, 15:49:51 PM
Quote from: James on January 20, 2020, 17:13:57 PM
Quote from: SABB on January 18, 2020, 21:23:17 PMSo you will need a 4.1m levee around the station to stop water from entering the station access to the tunnel. Also will you be able to operate the station when all the area around the station is under water.  A station at Queens Wharf would probably be operational during a 1974 or 2011 flood event

When you have significant flood events, it is more about recovery rather than keeping the station operational. The levy will need to be designed to well above a 2011 flood level, because draining a tunnel is not an easy job!

If you look at 2011 - the entire city shut down & major arterials were closed. Once built, Brisbane Metro will also face a similar issue, so really it's not much justification for moving the station to George St given the inconvenience this poses.

Who'd be walking up a hill in the 21stC....arcades...travelators etc.....surely Premier Trade would have insisted the foundations of Queens Wharf had future capacity for an underground rail corrid...hold on...hold on.....my mistake...it's "Brissy" no need for any future capacity to be built in......everyone back to the flat-Earth......

Why cant we build arcades and travellators from Albert St to the Citycat wharf and the Casino?
Like the escalators to the mid levels in Hong Kong?

timh

Quote from: verbatim9 on May 12, 2020, 13:46:23 PM
Quote from: Gazza on May 11, 2020, 13:49:52 PM
Quote from: SteelPan on January 31, 2020, 15:49:51 PM
Quote from: James on January 20, 2020, 17:13:57 PM
Quote from: SABB on January 18, 2020, 21:23:17 PMSo you will need a 4.1m levee around the station to stop water from entering the station access to the tunnel. Also will you be able to operate the station when all the area around the station is under water.  A station at Queens Wharf would probably be operational during a 1974 or 2011 flood event

When you have significant flood events, it is more about recovery rather than keeping the station operational. The levy will need to be designed to well above a 2011 flood level, because draining a tunnel is not an easy job!

If you look at 2011 - the entire city shut down & major arterials were closed. Once built, Brisbane Metro will also face a similar issue, so really it's not much justification for moving the station to George St given the inconvenience this poses.

Who'd be walking up a hill in the 21stC....arcades...travelators etc.....surely Premier Trade would have insisted the foundations of Queens Wharf had future capacity for an underground rail corrid...hold on...hold on.....my mistake...it's "Brissy" no need for any future capacity to be built in......everyone back to the flat-Earth......

Why cant we build arcades and travellators from Albert St to the Citycat wharf and the Casino?
Like the escalators to the mid levels in Hong Kong?

Hong Kong has entire underground concourses with shops built in connecting various MTR stations to surrounding developments (and other stations). If it were really necessary to have a direct link from Albert street station underground to Queens Wharf (which I'm still not convinced is needed), then i'm sure you could build it if you really wanted to.

Gazza

Im not even sure the Brisbane CBD can support that amount of extra retail (underground arcades). Queens Wharf in itself will add heaps.

verbatim9

#190

Gazza

Yeah, but thats one building, its not a tunnel with hundreds of shops that would need to be built for a long underground arcade.

ozbob

Government Statement

https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/91116

Queen's Wharf Brisbane – the 100 weeks to go countdown is on

8th December 2020

Deputy Premier and Minister for State Development, Infrastructure, Local Government and Planning
The Honourable Dr Steven Miles

*Time lapse footage is available here:



The $3.6 billion, economy boosting, Queen's Wharf Brisbane integrated resort will open in 100-weeks' time.

Deputy Premier and State Development Minister Steven Miles visited the site this morning where 50 bars, cafes and restaurants, four world-class hotels and up to 2,000 residential apartments will be located.

Mr Miles joined Star Entertainment Group and Destination Brisbane Consortium (DBC) executives inspecting progress on Brisbane CBD's monster tourism development.

"The Queen's Wharf Brisbane development is on track to open in late 2022. In the meantime, hundreds and thousands of jobs will be needed to make it happen," Mr Miles said.

"Currently there are nearly 600 workers on site and by this time next year that will be approaching 2000.

Star Entertainment Group today announced 100 per cent of their Queensland workforce was back after COVID-19.

"Star employs over 3,500 Queenslanders across their locations," Mr Miles said. 

"Many of these staff, including hospitality workers, cleaners and security, were receiving Job Keeper payments. Now they're back at work.

"Thanks to our strong health response 3,500 Queenslanders are back at work.

"Even better, Star advises me they're about to hire 50 additional staff in Queensland."

Mr Miles said Queensland businesses were benefiting from the Queens Wharf project.

"The project currently has more than 85% local-content. In the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic this is great news for Queensland jobs," Mr Miles said.

"Hundreds of tonnes of precast concrete from Toowoomba and 200 tonnes of Australian steel fabricated at Beenleigh are being delivered weekly to the site.

"By the time the podium levels are complete, a massive 4,000 tonnes of Queensland fabricated steel will have been delivered and installed.

"All the workers, not just those on site, but those involved across the South East, deserve a pat on the back for their efforts – having safely not missed a beat in this COVID-19 -impacted environment.

"Post COVID this magnificent resort will be the magnet for an estimated 1.4 million international, interstate and local annual visitors."

"And more than 8,000 people will have jobs based on this resort when fully operational."

"As well as the incredible and sustained site-progress, Brisbane's first river bridge in more than 10 years is underway connecting our iconic South Bank to Queen's Wharf's restaurant and retail level and to the CBD beyond.

"Named in honour of our first Indigenous Parliamentarian – the late Senator Neville Bonner AO – the striking Neville Bonner Bridge – will commence assembly from the first quarter in 2021 and be used by an estimated 9,000 people each day.

"In another vote of confidence, more than 90 per cent of the residential apartments in the 64-floor tower have been sold.

"Queen's Wharf is on track to be one of Australia's most sought-after destinations. Bring on late 2022."

To view the development's progress from August 2017 to November 2020 visit https://youtu.be/byFjUtmpWos

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^^That's 2 years. Nice way of putting it weeks away!

SteelPan

Needs a quality underground arcade, linking new inner-CBD rail station with Queens Wharf....once in a 100yrs development opportunity!  :-t
SEQ, where our only "fast-track" is in becoming the rail embarrassment of Australia!   :frs:

nathandavid88

^^ An underground arcade lined with empty shops is not what this city needs.

Gazza

Quote from: SteelPan on December 10, 2020, 03:35:45 AM
Needs a quality underground arcade, linking new inner-CBD rail station with Queens Wharf....once in a 100yrs development opportunity!  :-t
Why is it once in 100 years? You can build an underground walkway whenever you want.
In the case of Wynyard Walk, it was over 80 years after the original underground station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wynyard_Walk

nathandavid88

Also important to realise that it would be a walkway that connects into QW's carpark...

SteelPan

Quote from: nathandavid88 on December 11, 2020, 15:14:15 PM
Also important to realise that it would be a walkway that connects into QW's carpark...

Unless....they connect to somewhere...OTHER....than the carpark?   :dntk
SEQ, where our only "fast-track" is in becoming the rail embarrassment of Australia!   :frs:

SteelPan

Quote from: Gazza on December 11, 2020, 14:09:47 PM
Quote from: SteelPan on December 10, 2020, 03:35:45 AM
Needs a quality underground arcade, linking new inner-CBD rail station with Queens Wharf....once in a 100yrs development opportunity!  :-t
Why is it once in 100 years? You can build an underground walkway whenever you want.
In the case of Wynyard Walk, it was over 80 years after the original underground station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wynyard_Walk

Hah!!!    :dntk
SEQ, where our only "fast-track" is in becoming the rail embarrassment of Australia!   :frs:

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