Olympics Games for SEQ 2032

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/Johnsmccarthy/status/1364453369650114561

[ozbob]

Brisbanetimes --> Brisbane lord mayor calls for decade-long Olympics boom

Hosting the Olympics would force all three levels of government to produce a "decade-long infrastructure boom" in south-east Queensland before the cauldron was lit, Brisbane's lord mayor says as the region becomes a hot favourite to host the 2032 Games.

Lord mayor Adrian Schrinner said federal, state and local governments would have to work together on selected projects to enhance the region should its bid be successful ...

... The south-east Queensland bid estimated the cost of staging the Games at $5.3 billion, which would be partly offset by the International Olympic Committee providing a minimum $2.5 billion contribution. ...

[achiruel]

Let's hope this results in lots of RFR investment by the State and Feds!

[#Metro]

Prefect segway to introduce a new bus network.

I wonder how QR will cope with accessibility though. Lots of visitors and Paralympic athletes might get a surprise at the huge platform gaps and curved stations.

[timh]

Prefect segway to introduce a new bus network.

I wonder how QR will cope with accessibility though. Lots of visitors and Paralympic athletes might get a surprise at the huge platform gaps and curved stations.

I would hope that as part of the required transport infrastructure improvements, station accessibility is made a high priority, particularly with the stations at important points on the network for the games.

+1 also for bus improvements, particularly for me the busway. I think this would be a good opportunity to build the fully grade-separated Eastern Busway to Chandler, to run Brisbane Metro services to Sleeman Sports Complex, which will surely be a venue for at least some of the events. While the pool is not up to Olympic standards, the Velodrome absolutely is, and I could also see the Arena being used for something like Gymnastics, the Theatre for Weightlifting (as it was in the Comm games in the 80s) and the BMX track potentially used as well.

[achiruel]

IIRC, the plan is to upgrade the pool at the Aquatic Centre so it will be used. Maybe I'm wrong.

[verbatim9]

IIRC, the plan is to upgrade the pool at the Aquatic Centre so it will be used. Maybe I'm wrong.

It needs more than upgrading that pool it would need to be completely demolished and rebuilt.

[SteelPan]

News Flash - Breaking News - News Flash - Breaking News - News Flash - Breaking News - News Flash - Breaking News

Queensland State Government prepares plan to unveil Exciting New Bus Stops for Olympics and Beyond!

The Queensland Premier "Annastacia Palaszczuk" and Transport Minister.....aahhhhh....a "Mark Bailey" will today, following the confirmation of "Brissy" as the favourite for the big sports carnival thingy....unveil "6 New Bus Stops 2037" an exciting Report to place not 4...not 5...but 6 New Bus Stops at strategic points around SE Qld, by the second half of next decade.

The Premier and Transport Minister both noted, that whilst the Report did not actually committ the State Government to providing the 6 New Bus Stops, it did show that the State was serious about producing the Report.

Neither the Premier or Minister would publicly comment on rumours, that one of the proposed 6 New Bus Stops may also have a refurbished bench type seat placed relatively close to it, allowing future commuters to sit, with minimal comfort whilst waiting for the no extra buses to run on any of the routes likely to see the 6 New Bus Stops!

Industry insiders said they doubted the bench seating rumours could be true, as this type of technology had not yet been tested in Queensland "we've seen people sitting on benches waiting for buses in Europe and North America and I know Queensland Transport has had multiple fact finding tours to both regions, but frankly, I think we've got someways to go" said Nigel Smithers-Wainwright-Howard IV, secretary of the Ain't Buses Awesome Campaign.

When asked why the tourist mecca, mega hub servicing Brisbane/Gold Coast heavy rail corridor still stopped, all these years later, at some suburb called "Varsity Lakes" and had not yet gone on to Coolangatta, both the Premier and Minister were no-longer seen to provide any comment....in fact, they weren't seen anywhere!

The Minister's office said, "6 New Bus Stops 2037" is the State Government's flagship Report for 2021, to meet the infrastructure needs of the 2032 sports carnival thingy.

Ends

All media queries to: Chantel LeMarie, Batchelor of Spin Communications [Hons] at Vanish Media Engagement

[ozbob]

Let's hope this results in lots of RFR investment by the State and Feds!

Well it certainly isn't included in the games costings.   I'd be happy if they managed a few LX removals and duplication through to Landsborough, with some other weak spots on the network sorted. 

Be nice if I had a bench seat at the 524 bus stop at Curnow St. But that might be a bench too far hey?   

[verbatim9]

There is talk about Albion and Chandler. I think they should build above Mayne Yards. If they do demolish the Sleeman Centre and build a proper modern facility they could extend Metro to Chandler.  The aquatic centre could be rebuilt to match Albert Park in Melbourne and Homebush in Sydney. The carpark could be dug up and Metro placed underground with new landscaping and street scaping above to make it more pedestrian friendly.  Wherever they decide to place the new Aquatic Centre it needs the facilities that match the NSW and Vic counterparts to make it attractive for the public to use before and after the Olympics.  An Aquatic/Leisure centre is needed with steam, spa, hydro, gym facilities for general health and recovery.  Plus a new training and a main pool would be needed post Olympics to attract national and world swim competitions.

p.s. I believe that the Sleeman outdoor pool has been converted  into a ski jump, for all year round ski jump training.

[verbatim9]

News Flash - Breaking News - News Flash - Breaking News - News Flash - Breaking News - News Flash - Breaking News

Queensland State Government prepares plan to unveil Exciting New Bus Stops for Olympics and Beyond!

Remember the winking Kangaroo for the Brisbane Comm Games and the disastrous empty streets around the Gold coast and empty stadium for the closing ceremony for the Gold Coast Games.  Don't let ex politicians and current run and decide the logistics for future games.

[verbatim9]

I believe that Brisbane should host Aquatics and Athletics in Brisbane with a  new purpose built facility. The other events could be held in other areas. Toowoomba (shooting range), Gold Coast would be good for the marathon and surfing. Not sure what the Sunshine Coast's role would be? Cycling or Triathlon.

[Stillwater]

'Matilda' (Comm. Games kangaroo), has been given a coat of paint and relocated to the new Puma Service Centre at Traveston, Bruce Hwy, south of Gympie.

[verbatim9]

In Qld--->Brisbane on the fast track to deliver 2032 Olympics despite transport questions - InQueensland

^^Transport concerns raised in relation to the bid

[#Metro]

What order will the games be, Paralympics first then Olympics?

[ozbob]

What order will the games be, Paralympics first then Olympics?

They run together these days ...

[kram0]

What order will the games be, Paralympics first then Olympics?

They run together these days ...

No Ozbob, the Olympics are first followed by the Paralympic 2-3 weeks later. This is also the plan from what I have read for 2032.

[BrizCommuter]

A BrizCommuter article from a year ago. Still valid.
http://brizcommuter.blogspot.com/2020/01/brisbane-2032-olympics-transport-legacy.html

[ozbob]

What order will the games be, Paralympics first then Olympics?

They run together these days ...

No Ozbob, the Olympics are first followed by the Paralympic 2-3 weeks later. This is also the plan from what I have read for 2032.

OK thanks.  I was listening on the wireless the other day and I thought I heard there was going to be a tighter integration.  Maybe just a few events. 

[ozbob]

In Qld--->Brisbane on the fast track to deliver 2032 Olympics despite transport questions - InQueensland

^^Transport concerns raised in relation to the bid

Very telling this quote from the article:

... The South East Queensland Council of Mayors had convinced governments to investigate potential fast rail connections from Brisbane to the Gold and Sunshine coasts and even Toowoomba.

"I think fast rail is a very important part of that," Jamieson told journalists.

"Moving people around will be critical."

But as Jamieson was speaking, Palaszczuk was in the background saying "it's not in the bid, it's not in the bid". The bid documents do not include such a rail upgrade, despite giving both new and existing options for other infrastructure.

It was the first sign of tension between the three levels of government that still need to satisfy the IOC of their capacity to deliver not only the games but the infrastructure to support it.  ...

To be honest we will be very lucky to get any true fast rail out of this. I think at best might be some track and signalling upgrades.

Hey, if a 'Brisbane Metro' can be bi-articulated buses, then 'fast rail' in SEQ can be a run to Nambour without having to reverse at single face platforms ...

Does anyone really think that there will be fast rail to Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast and Toowoomba?  Built and operating within 11 years?
Not in Queensland I am afraid.  Fast rail dreaming ...   

[ozbob]

https://twitter.com/ozbob13/status/1364957987035611151

[ozbob]

Couriermail 26th Feb 2021 page 5

Transport 'pinch points' biggest challenge

CONNECTING transport systems across the southeast will be a key challenge if the region hosts the 2032 Olympics, according to the head of Infrastructure Australia.

Speaking ahead of the release of IA's 2021 infrastructure priority list, Romilly Madew said "connectivity" would be a bigger hurdle for southeast Queensland than it had been for Sydney in 2000, when the Games were based around a central precinct.

"Southeast Queensland will be a more broader precinct across a larger area so connectivity will be really crucial," she said.

IA's priority list, out today, does not feature Olympic-related projects for the region but Ms Madew said initiatives addressing travel "pinch points" would be a priority if Brisbane was awarded the Games.

Ms Madew said the list had identified a $60bn project pipeline, including 28 in Queensland, that were a national priority for development.

She said the COVID-19 pandemic had also changed infrastructure needs so it was important to identify which changes were temporary and which would be permanent.

"We are at a crossroads between addressing existing infrastructure gaps and prioritising investments that will secure our future prosperity with abundant opportunities to deliver infrastructure that responds to community needs," she said.

The only high priority initiative added to the list in Queensland was improving level crossings congestion and safety in the southeast corner.

Ms Madew said Queensland had eight of the 10 projects completed in the past year.

^ Interesting, the LX removal penny has finally dropped ...

[ozbob]

This sort of comment is just babble ...

Couriermail --> Brisbane Olympics 2032: Love our Games bid or leave $

...Winning the right to host the 2032 Olympics is much more than a life-changing event for the Sunshine State.

It will accelerate much-needed major projects such as a second major highway between the Gold Coast and Brisbane.

It will ensure a heavy rail link between the Gold and Sunshine Coasts. It will deliver a world-class super stadium, likely to be at Albion.

It will ensure a significant upgrade to the four-laning of the Bruce Highway between the Sunshine Coast and Brisbane. ...

[ozbob]

A BrizCommuter article from a year ago. Still valid.
http://brizcommuter.blogspot.com/2020/01/brisbane-2032-olympics-transport-legacy.html

Sure is.  Waiting ....   

[kram0]

Fast rail is just a utopia and a delaying tactic from both levels of Government.

With the Olympics now looking all but being in Brisbane/SEQ, we will likely get a rail link to the coastal side of the Sunshine Coast, Trouts Road rail, rail to the GC Airport, Cleveland line duplication from Manly, a few level crossing upgrades (but not at the same level as Melbourne) and maybe a 3rd track from Caboolture to Petrie, but non of this will be 'fast rail.

I would also be very surprised if rail links to Toowoomba were built before 2032, among other projects mentioned much to my disgust.   

Brisbane definitely needs a Sydney style metro from UQ and or Toowong, via West End, City, New Farm, Albion (proposed stadium) and out to Portside (athletes village) similar to below.

https://brisbanedevelopment.com/brisbane-needs-an-east-west-mass-rapid-transit/

[ozbob]

^ thread Brisbane Underground Metro System

>>> https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=4256.0

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Projects/Name/B/Brisbane-inner-city-metro.aspx

Brisbane inner city metro
Overview: The Queensland Government has released a proposal for an underground metro system, linking Toowong, West End, the City, Newstead and Bowen Hills; with possible extensions to Bulimba and Hamilton North Shore.

Location: South east – Brisbane inner city

Benefits: What is metro?

A metro system is an electric passenger railway in an urban area with high capacity and high frequency services. It is usually separated from other traffic and is unchallenged in its ability to transport large amounts of people quickly over short distances — making it perfect for urban areas like Brisbane.

The first metro was the London underground, which opened in 1863. Now more than 160 cities have metro systems and 25 cities currently have metro systems under construction.



Project info
Over the next 25 years, the population in the inner five kilometre ring surrounding Brisbane's CBD will grow by about 50 per cent, or an extra 90 000 residents. At the same time, the number of workers needing to enter the city each day will double from 200 000 to 400 000.

The Queensland Government has released a proposal for an underground metro system, linking Toowong, West End, the City, Newstead and Bowen Hills; with possible extensions to Bulimba and Hamilton North Shore. The plans include an international-standard, underground metro rail system — similar to the London Tube and the Paris Metro.

The proposal to build underground rail under Brisbane city over the next two decades would help south east Queensland cope with unprecedented inner-city population growth.

The first step is delivery of the Cross River Rail project, which will open up the bottleneck restricting train services in the inner city through Central and Roma Street stations. Cross River Rail includes a new rail line, a new river crossing and new inner city rail stations.

The next step after Cross River Rail would be the metro project, which can bring in high capacity and high frequency services.

Comments? Do you think this will be a seperate metro system, or just another part of the current rail network? I'm hoping for the latter. I see no point in (at this stage at least) starting up a whole new network when the current rail network is underutilised.

Errrr ... BCC should not have called the busway upgrade with the bi-artics ' Brisbane Metro ' 

a better name perhaps Brisbane BRT 

[kram0]

TMR have removed the link for this project....

[ozbob]

TMR have removed the link for this project....

Map is still live

> http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Projects/B/Brisbane%20inner%20city%20metro/Pdf_transport_plan_map.pdf

[Stillwater]

^^ "The next step after Cross River Rail would be the metro project, which can bring in high capacity and high frequency services."

Sunshine Coast residents have been told consistently that the SCL upgrade was the next priority after Cross River Rail. Consistently, they have been disappointed about the timing and scope of this project.

[ozbob]

The above re BUM was written in 2009.  At that point in time it was full steam ahead on the Sunshine Coast Line ...
and then it all stopped ...

[aldonius]

Slightly back on track, has there been any hint of even a semi official proposal of a faster Gold Coast alignment?

I suggest that any RFR going via Garden City will probably need to enter tunnel by then, and in that case, there's no reason it can't go via Nathan, with a station located between Griffith and QSAC. (Griffith is apparently trying to ditch their Mt Gravatt campus and centralise on Nathan anyway.)

[verbatim9]

TMR have removed the link for this project....

Map is still live

> http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Projects/B/Brisbane%20inner%20city%20metro/Pdf_transport_plan_map.pdf

That alignment is not needed from Toowong. It needs to pass through West End, UQ, St Lucia, Indooroopilly High School St Peter's Indooroopilly Station and SC. Far greater catchment with huge benefits. It will allow kids to catch the metro to the schools instead of being dropped off.  There are huge traffic concerns at the moment around the schools.

Indooroopilly Station needs to be moved North to where Bunnings is now. It can be a market led opportunity with the property  owner. The station needs to be moved anyway for duplication of the Walter Taylor bridge.

[achiruel]

Hey, if a 'Brisbane Metro' can be bi-articulated buses, then 'fast rail' in SEQ can be a run to Nambour without having to reverse at single face platforms ...

Experienced this morning on the northbound Gympielander. It really is quite absurd to require such a maneuver on the SEQ network in 2021. How will something that's archaic now look to international visitors in 2032?

P.S. can we still call it the Gympielander if not operated by ICEs? IMU109/110 on duty today.

[verbatim9]

That line is getting upgraded to ETCS so the Gympielander /ICE will be no more. Those slow sections of track will surely be eliminated by then.

[SteelPan]

We should [note, I didn't say we will] get the rail line upgraded and extended finnnaallllyyyy round to Hamilton???   

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/hamilton-shores-up-for-14-000-bed-olympic-games-athletes-village-20210225-p575sk.html#comments


[Qld Reality: perhaps Hamilton is the location of one of the 6 New Bus Stops in 2037 for the 2032 Games!....time will telll  a lot of time too.....]

[ozbob]

Looking good at Corinda ..



Photograph R Dow 25th February 2021

[Stillwater]

The ABC says that an IOC feasibility study into the ability of Brisbane/SEQ to accommodate the Olympic Games in 2032 predicts a shortfall of 61,000 rooms to accommodate tourists, in addition to 80,000 beds for athletes, hangers-on, officials and spectators. The report goes on: "That gives South-East Queensland 10 years to build the equivalent of 600 medium-sized hotels."

While it is a fair chance the extra beds would be occupied around the time of the Games, there may well be an excess capacity after the Games.

So what to do?

Bring in passenger cruise ships to moor temporarily at Hamilton and probably a Gold Coast Sea Terminal (built by 2032).

If a Hamilton temporary accommodation hub is part of the plan, then the Doomben Line would have to be upgraded considerably and extended to Hamilton, surely.

[BrizCommuter]

We should [note, I didn't say we will] get the rail line upgraded and extended finnnaallllyyyy round to Hamilton???   

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/hamilton-shores-up-for-14-000-bed-olympic-games-athletes-village-20210225-p575sk.html#comments


[Qld Reality: perhaps Hamilton is the location of one of the 6 New Bus Stops in 2037 for the 2032 Games!....time will telll  a lot of time too.....]

It would be a no brainer to (partially) duplicate and extend the Doomben Line to Northshore Hamilton to allow for 15 minute services. But of course, this is Queensland!

[achiruel]

^ why would you only partially duplicate it?

Look what happens to the Shorncliffe line when one trains is 3 minutes late.

[BrizCommuter]

^ why would you only partially duplicate it?

Look what happens to the Shorncliffe line when one trains is 3 minutes late.

$$$$
A full duplication would of course be most sensible, but a partial duplication may suffice based on proposed schedules and allowance of some late running. Clayfield, Hendra, and Ascot have provision for 2 tracks, though duplicating between some of the stations may be costly.
It should be remembered that the Shorncliffe Line's main issue with 15 minutes services is that the terminus is on the single track section.