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Abbott - spill
« on: February 03, 2015, 06:23:11 PM »
It seems there might be the beginnings of a vote to remove Abbott as PM.

ABC News --> Prime Minister Tony Abbott no longer has support of Liberal backbencher Dennis Jensen

One swallow does not make summer, but this is how these things often start.  Could get interesting ..
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2015, 06:24:11 PM »
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Latika Bourke ‏@latikambourke 29 minutes ago

Dennis Jensen and Mal Brough tipping the bucket tonight. #libspill within a week?
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2015, 06:29:06 PM »
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Michelle Grattan ‏@michellegrattan 2 minutes ago

Bring on a leadership vote next week: Liberal backbencher http://theconversation.com/bring-on-a-leadership-vote-next-week-liberal-backbencher-37113 … via @ConversationEDU
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2015, 06:32:26 PM »
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James Massola ‏@jamesmassola 3 minutes ago

A second Liberal MP, Warren Entsch, has told me he supports a party room ballot. "It [the leadership] needs to be resolved". #libspill
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2015, 06:32:53 PM »
 :P :o
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2015, 06:46:49 PM »
Brisbanetimes --> Liberal MP Dennis Jensen calls on Tony Abbott to resign
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2015, 06:49:21 PM »
Goodnight, we barely knew thee...

Bring on Malcolm, somebody who supports the Federal Government investing funds into urban public transport (or so I understand).
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2015, 08:06:15 PM »
I want Abbott to stay. I can deal with his idiocy until next year. The pay off will be electoral armageddon for the Coalition.

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2015, 03:20:12 AM »
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/liberal-mp-dennis-jensen-calls-on-tony-abbott-to-resign-20150203-1358jm.html

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... According to some internal estimates, as many as 30 MPs have indicated their desire for a leadership change, raising the chances that next week's return of parliament could see events move quickly beyond the Prime Minister's control.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott arrives in Canberra for a cabinet meeting on Tuesday ...
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2015, 09:19:46 AM »
The Australian --> Tony Abbott leadership now ‘terminal’, says Jeff Kennett

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 12:30:13 PM »
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Latika Bourke ‏@latikambourke 3 minutes ago

WA backbencher Luke Simpkins to move a spill Tuesday. Don Randall to second. #libspill @smh @theage @PoliticsFairfax
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 12:44:19 PM »
Sydney Morning Herald --> Liberal MP spill motion threatens to end Tony Abbott's time as Prime Minister
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 12:46:27 PM »
And its on ... this is going to be fun. :bg:



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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 12:52:18 PM »
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Malcolm Turnbull @TurnbullMalcolm  ·  Feb 5

And now for some Hawkesbury River pix from the train! very scenic if not rapid.



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Once I saw that tweet from Malcolm Turnbull yesterday, sort of figured it might be on ..
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2015, 12:56:15 PM »
Just hope he wasn't trying to get all the way to Newcastle.  :pfy:

Do you think One Term Tony even knows what a train is?

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2015, 12:56:57 PM »
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News Talk 4BC 1116 ‏@NewsTalk4BC 16 seconds ago

.@TonyAbbottMHR has indicated the spill motion will be listed for discussion at the party room meeting on Tuesday #libspill #auspol
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2015, 01:09:56 PM »
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2015, 01:32:00 PM »
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Peter Doherty ‏@PeterDoherty7 5 minutes ago

The push came from Queensland. Western Australia pulled the trigger. D-Day Canberra Tuesday #libspill @7NewsBrisbane

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2015, 01:36:26 PM »
It' #libspill time!

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2015, 02:56:14 PM »
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2015, 02:57:15 PM »
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 Robert Dow @Robert_Dow 2 minutes ago

. @TonyAbbottMHR Hey Tony, @theqldpremier had a 'strong plan' too cobber! #auspol #libspill fix up the policies! Roads only, one term only!
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2015, 04:47:30 PM »
I want Abbott to stay. I can deal with his idiocy until next year. The pay off will be electoral armageddon for the Coalition.

I'm so torn by this. I want him to stay long enough to lose the election convincingly, but I would also enjoy him becoming the second shortest serving elected PM in Australian history.

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2015, 08:07:14 PM »
I wouldn't mind having Turnbull in, if it meant we saw a shift to his kind of polices....Better PT, marriage equality and so forth.
No reason you can't couple being socially progressive with proper management of the budget...

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2015, 03:21:22 AM »
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ReachTEL ‏@ReachTEL

The Coalition 2PP number has fallen from 49/51 in September to 45/55 now https://www.reachtel.com.au/blog/7-news-national-poll-5february2015 … #auspol

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2015, 03:24:02 AM »
Sydney Morning Herald --> The inside story of how the Liberal leadership duo of Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop cracked
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2015, 05:54:50 AM »
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news.com.au ‏@newscomauHQ 12 minutes ago

Malcolm Turnbull for treasurer to ward off leadership spill against Tony Abbott http://bit.ly/1ztmz2F 
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2015, 06:41:42 AM »
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2015, 07:13:51 AM »
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news.com.au ‏@newscomauHQ 7 minutes ago

#BREAKING: Malcolm Turnbull has told @SkyNewsAust he will 'support the PM' in voting against the spill motion on Tuesday #libspill

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End of spill I think ..   :P

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2015, 07:36:03 AM »


Oz polyticks ...  :fp: :bg:
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2015, 07:54:12 AM »
RIP Journalism

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2015, 08:52:00 AM »
Brisbanetimes --> Liberal party room to meet on Monday morning to vote on spill motion

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2015, 08:58:20 AM »
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news.com.au ‏@newscomauHQ 7 minutes ago

#BREAKING: Malcolm Turnbull has told @SkyNewsAust he will 'support the PM' in voting against the spill motion on Tuesday #libspill

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End of spill I think ..   :P

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If the spill is successful what will he do?

If Turnbull had been leader last election I would have voted LNP first time ever. Something about the guy says "leader" to me.

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2015, 09:05:18 AM »
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2015, 09:21:37 AM »
Sydney Morning Herald --> Liberal MPs slam Tony Abbott's decision to bring spill motion forward

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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2015, 10:26:55 AM »
If the spill is successful what will he do?

If Turnbull had been leader last election I would have voted LNP first time ever. Something about the guy says "leader" to me.

Many within the Liberal (and National) Party believe Turnbull is too moderate. One of the arguments made is that Turnbull would be the preferred Prime Minister of the people who don't vote for him (i.e. ALP supporters) because he is a moderate. Personally, I find the issue with Abbott is that he is backflipping on everything. 18C repeal, Medicare co-payments, University deregulation, taxation reform, the list goes on. Backflipping just means you endure political pain for no governmental gain. Really, there have been minimal spending cuts because the ALP/Greens/minor parties have blocked numerous key reforms everything in the senate.

My personal opinion is Bill Shorten is acting like an entitled little brat and is blocking everything he can in the Senate in order to stifle the country for his own political gains. So far, it is working brilliantly. Abbott needs to either stop trying to save the budget and just not grow government spending, or find ways to increase taxes/cut spending which don't require senate approval. I think it is worth noting the Senate is still trying to pass portions of the budget for this financial year... Yes, the one we are almost 2/3 of the way through... That is a sign things are currently not working in Canberra.
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2015, 10:52:07 AM »
An opposition is under no obligation pass any measure it doesn't like.  The only failure to get a piece of legislation through Parliament rests with the government for failing to negotiate it through.
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2015, 12:08:15 PM »
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....is acting like an entitled little brat and is blocking everything he can in the Senate in order to stifle the country for his own political gains.
Worked for Abbott in opposition didn't it?

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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2015, 05:16:20 PM »
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Many within the Liberal (and National) Party believe Turnbull is too moderate. One of the arguments made is that Turnbull would be the preferred Prime Minister of the people who don't vote for him (i.e. ALP supporters) because he is a moderate.

"Too moderate"

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Shorten doesn't need to do anything. Just sit in a banana lounge and watch the other side implode, then walk to victory.
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2015, 09:12:30 PM »
The main reason Turnbull is despised is likely because he isn't right-leaning enough for the people who largely control the party these days.  Attracting moderates to the party, despite it actually being a key part of being able to win elections sustainably over time (not relying on the ALP imploding), undermines their authority.

There are people in the LNP/LP/NP/LCL grand coalition who actually don't want to attract Labor voters.  Consequently they will start to find it very difficult given that only around 20% of the population tends to decide elections.
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Re: Abbott - spill
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2015, 09:27:28 PM »
Turnbull is not socially conservative or a religion-toter.  Lucy Turnbull, his wife, is also has a distinguished record of public service in her own right as Lord Mayor of Sydney.

These people have class; Abbott does not.

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