Daylight saving - discussion

[verbatim9]

Lets get the conversation started regarding reintroducing Daylight Saving to Queensland https://t.co/VYu0C64Ine

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DaylightSaving gaining traction in Queensland?  https://t.co/Pj67Gy0S1X

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DaylightSaving in Queensland can help protect the Koala study finds ---> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/environment/animals/adopting-daylight-saving-could-save-southeast-queensland-koalas-study-finds-20161123-gsvggq.html

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Deputy Brisbane Mayor Adrian Schrinner wants people's feedback regarding the reintroduction of Daylight Saving in Queensland https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155168591871165&id=35421541164

Survey can be found here :
https://www.facebook.com/councillor.schrinner/

[verbatim9]

Hello Everyone: below is the direct link to the New Official Queensland Daylight Saving Survey - Please SHARE after responding to the one quick question!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/XL7YKWL

[verbatim9]

Townsville Myor Backs Daylight Saving

Daylight saving poll gets emphatic 88% yes result

Tom Snowdon, The Courier-Mail
January 10, 2017 12:00am
Subscriber only

THE deputy mayors of Brisbane and Townsville have thrown their support behind a fresh daylight saving trial.

Brisbane Deputy Mayor Adrian Schrinner is pushing for Queensland to trial daylight saving to help boost the economy, 25 years after residents voted against it.


Queensland stands with WA and the NT as the only Australian regions that don't wind clocks forward an hour for six months each October.
Cr Schrinner has been garnering online support through a poll for a fresh trial after the state's last one was held for three years from 1989.

Cr Schrinner told The Courier-Mail the time was ripe for another trial in either the whole state or at least the southeast.

"A daylight savings trial for one or two seasons would give people an idea of how it would work in Queensland conditions," Cr Schrinner said. "They could then decide if it's something they want to stick with or keep the existing situation."

Townsville Deputy Mayor Les Walker agreed the idea had merit, telling The Courier-Mail households would likely save money on power as families capitalised on natural light.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/daylight-saving-poll-gets-88-yes/news-story/280f8c544240954d0794621ecbcaff2e

[Stillwater]

Interesting twist in the story - save on power bills, support Daylight Saving

[verbatim9]

Pools and sporting fields don't need to use their lights in the eve. Not everyone uses Air Con everyday from Oct to Nov when they arrive home. So yes, there is power savings to be had.

[verbatim9]

http://www.mygc.com.au/strong-online-support-daylight-saving-trial-qld/

It's been 25 years since the last trial of Daylight Saving in Queensland*and it appears people in the sunshine state are keen for another if a new survey is anything to go by.

Brisbane Deputy Mayor*Adrian Schrinner has openly expressed his support for Daylight Saving to be adopted in Qld and he has now thrown his support behind a public survey*asking people their thoughts on the topic.

The survey reads: "Its been 25 years since the last trial of Daylight Saving ended in Queensland. Do you support a new trial being held?"

As of *Monday, the results showed that 88% of people were in favour of a new Daylight Saving trial in Qld, with just 12% a strong 'no' and 1% undecided.

[verbatim9]

7 News Queensland running a statewide poll link here via Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1383993761613472&id=130736376939223

[verbatim9]

Start it this coming October. Mount Isa and Birdsville should go on Central Time CDT/CST in which the same happens in NSW with BrokenHill to correct the anomaly due to being so far west. The rest of Qld goes on Eastern Daylight and Standard Time all year for the majority of the Qld population to be in synchronisation with NSW Act Vic and Tas all year. Among other benefits.

[Arnz]

^^

Problem is North & Central Queensland, plus far West Queensland are strongly opposed to DST.

If DST is to be introduced to Qld it'll likely be the SEQ area only (plus Toowoomba, as north of Wide Bay/Bundaberg (at a stretch) and as far west as Dalby (at a stretch)).

[petey3801]

Interesting twist in the story - save on power bills, support Daylight Saving

Except that many people will use their air con for longer due to it being hotter in the afternoon/evening in the summer for an extra hour. Air con uses a lot more electricity than lights in a household.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Oh for f**ks sake. This again. Just wake up an hour earlier you useless queensland bastards! Too hot to do stuff in the arvo. Too much congestion. Too many annoying people out there.

[verbatim9]

7 News report regarding Daylight Saving Poll

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/33764111/the-new-push-for-daylight-saving/?cmp=st

[James]

Oh for f**ks sake. This again. Just wake up an hour earlier you useless queensland bastards! Too hot to do stuff in the arvo. Too much congestion. Too many annoying people out there.

This argument is incredibly stupid. As a uni student who works part time, I cannot simply ask my friend to move his birthday forward an hour so it fits my self-imposed daylight saving, nor ask my lecturers to move my classes, or ask work to move my shifts back an hour to fit 'daylight saving'.

Unless you have flexible work hours, no school-age children and don't interact much with the outside world, it isn't as simple as "waking up earlier".

Fun fact: on January 10 (or it's northern equivalent, July 10), the sun rises at 4:56am in London and 5:03am in Brisbane. By comparison, the sun sets at 9:16pm in London and 6:48pm in Brisbane. There's a reason Brisbane is a grandpa town, it's because just like grandma and grandpa, the sun here wakes up really early then goes to bed by 7pm. Get woken up by the heat, go to work, get home in time to watch the sun set and get bitten by 1000 mosquitos.

[verbatim9]

Business leaders and Mayors push for a Daylight Saving Trial

COUNCIL leaders representing more than half of Queensland's 4.7 million residents want daylight saving trialled again in a call echoed by the state's peak business body.

Mayors of the Gold Coast, Ipswich, Logan, Moreton Bay and Mackay want to see another trial of the initiative 25 years after the last one finished. Combined with Brisbane and Townsville deputy mayors, who pushed the move yesterday, the community leaders represent about 3 million voters, or 64 per cent of Queensland residents, according to 2015 Bureau of Statistics data.


Mackay Mayor Greg Williamson, who has 20 years of business experience, said not having daylight saving was "a bit of an embuggerance in terms of business" when it came to dealing with southern-state counterparts

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/queensland-government/leaders-say-more-than-half-of-the-state-ready-for-daylight-saving-trial/news-story/225cab3c41f825df6c9a2a6b656febec

[verbatim9]

Time to give Daylight Saving a go!

Opinion: It's time for another Daylight Saving trial in Queensland

Kylie Lang, The Courier-Mail

January 10, 2017 2:18pm


Daylight saving Queensland: New push for trial

IF Brisbane residents want more daylight, they should get out of bed earlier. Simple. Stupid, more like it.

Katter Australian Party MP for Mt Isa Robbie Katter is kidding if he thinks this is the answer.

What the bulk of Queenslanders, who choose to live in the southeast, and larger regional cities like Townsville and Cairns want is the chance to give daylight saving a go.

With 88 per cent of us in favour a trial, according to a new survey, why the resistance?

The last time Queensland trialled winding the clocks forward an hour for six months each October was 1992.

A subsequent referendum was narrowly defeated, yet every year since petitions have been put to Parliament to bring us in line with our southern counterparts of NSW and Victoria.

Mr Katter might not like it, but it is high time to try it again.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/opinion-its-time-for-another-daylight-saving-trial-in-queensland/news-story/d3b461421b0c1c18446663fb2e9d7877

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Jackie Trad voices her support for Daylight Saving

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/acting-premier-jackie-trad-voices-personal-support-for-daylight-saving-20170111-gtpcut.html

Daylight saving is a fantastic initiative, Queensland's Acting Premier Jackie Trad says.

Ms Trad's remarks come after the almost-annual debate was reignited this week with an online survey showing about 84 per cent of people would support a daylight saving trial in Queensland.

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Constructive debate on Daylight Saving vital

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/opinion-constructive-debate-on-daylight-saving-is-vital/news-story/7b905742682f6f531d75866b8ad55816

DAYLIGHT saving has long been an issue of contention in Queensland. It is one of those rare subjects on which everyone has an opinion and therefore terrifies governments of every stripe because there is no popular answer.

It remains a perpetual January argument. As the people of the southeast are shocked awake by a dawn chorus as early as 4am, the people of the northwest do not relish the idea of yet another hour of heat and light well into the late evening.

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MP calls for free vote on Daylight Saving

https://t.co/2LZAVEC3xS

Don Brown MP : Capalaba

At next ALP Qld Conf I will be moving that ALP MPs be given conscience vote on #daylightsaving plebiscite, if LNP MPs are allowed the same.

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Brisbane Development Tweeted:

@donaldjonbrown3 Finally an MP with common sense! The majority of SEQ wants it, that is a big part of 3.4 million people behind you!

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Mackay Council Twitter Poll

https://twitter.com/mackaycouncil/status/819431035301543938

Mackay's mayor has said he would support the push for a new trial of daylight saving. Do you think Queensland should have daylight saving?

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Queensland Tourism Council (QTIC) Acknowledges the need for Daylight Saving for Business in Queensland.

https://twitter.com/TheQTIC/status/820767325833940992

@verbatim18 it is an issue that troubles the business community. The community's view should be respected - time for a referendum perhaps?

[Gazza]

Oh for f**ks sake. This again. Just wake up an hour earlier you useless queensland bastards! Too hot to do stuff in the arvo. Too much congestion. Too many annoying people out there.

The point is, everyone needs to move their clocks together for it to work.

No point getting up early if public transport isn't running (Especially on the Northside of Brisbane), shops arent open, cant make noise etc.

Special events and other "spare time" activites are normally in the evening....

Thats why we have late night shopping on a Thursday, not "early morning shopping".

[verbatim9]

Adrian Schrinner has confirmed and started a new Qld Government e petition for Daylight Saving

https://twitter.com/Schrinner/
status/820936298785447937

I've been inundated with requests to start a Parliamentary e-petition on Daylight Saving. Here it is!
https://t.co/wQsEEWghQl https://t.co/RafcCsNgvU

[ozbob]

Premier @AnnastaciaMP rules out splitting Queensland into two time zones: https://t.co/oVMAoIUMto #9News

— Nine News Brisbane (@9NewsBrisbane) January 16, 2017

[verbatim9]

Why has Daylight Saving for SE Qld come up? Even though I would support Daylight Saving in the South East it's not good for logistics Airlines, Qld Government departments and other statewide businesses. Prefer to advocate for Statewide Daylight Saving in Qld having Mount ISA and Birdsville of Central Time CDT/CST the same as Broken Hill, NSW and Adelaide in SA. Those towns are so far West in Qld that something should of been done year ago to correct the anomaly. Mount ISA and Birdsville will then be 30mins behind Brisbane all year which is not a big ask.

[Arnz]

Probably due to if it did come down to a referendum, most of regional Queensland (except Businesses, ex-NSW/VIC residents & Poltical figures) would likely oppose it whereas the majority of South East Queensland would support it.

[Arnz]

It's now become a political issue.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daylight-saving-premier-rules-out-two-time-zones-20170117-gtstyz.html

The LNP and the far right alternatives such as KAP and PHON aren't likely to touch this issue with a 4 foot pole considering their power bases are in the regional areas.  Although some LNP pollies may personally support DST.

It would likely mean political suicide for those parties from their regional powerbases if they "pander to the SEQ corner".

[verbatim9]

Time-zones in Queensland haven't been adjusted since implementation. Therefore haven't progressed with the current times. Due to population changes in #Queensland. Its time to look at the Western Time line/border of Queensland and shift it East to include #MountIsa #Birdsville #Cloncurry and other surrounding towns maybe as far east as #Longreach. A review into this can open up the whole state to have #DaylightSaving. If Mount Isa were to go on Central Daylight Time the same as Broken Hill, sunrise today would be at 6.46am and sunset at 7.59pm. Birdsville example would be sunrise today at 6.37am and sunset at 8.10pm. To have these regions on Central Daylight and Central Standard time all year is a good compromise that would be good for State and intersate business and to allow the rest of the state to operate on Eastern Standard and Eastern Daylight all throughout the year. Even though these regions may have a 30 minutes time difference with Brisbane all year, it will only affect 25,000 people out of an estimated total population of 5,000,000 for Queensland.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/gold-coast-airport-straddles-two-time-zones-ground-zero-of-daylight-savings-debate/news-story/cfbeaf2b08179f7a2cc74c57d664fb7d

Gold Coast Airport straddles two time zones: ground zero of daylight savings debate

Kathleen Skene, Gold Coast Bulletin

January 18, 2017 12:00am

THE Gold Coast is on the front line of a renewed push for daylight savings, with local business and community leaders saying the different time zone is harming the region's lifestyle, tourism and wider economy.

Gold Coast Airport straddles two different time zones almost six months of every year but operates under Queensland time to minimise confusion over departure and arrival times.

Queensland Airport Ltd CEO Chris Mills said the Gold Coast-to-Sydney air route is the fourth busiest in the nation, with Gold Coast-Melbourne the seventh busiest.

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Daylight Saving being discussed on Mornings with Steve Austin (18Jan17) and former Chief of staff for Anna Bligh as well as the Federal Minister for Petrie @1h24mins into the stream then after the News at 1hour38min with Marcus Fitzgerald

https://radio.abc.net.au/programitem/pe8DwEXl8Q?play=true

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1 hour timezone variation over Summer costing GoldCoast's and Brisbane's economy

https://t.co/anjFQkyFkB

Time zone variation costing Gold Coast millions in dollars and jobs


Kathleen Skene, Chief reporter, Gold Coast Bulletin

January 19, 2017 12:00am



THE Gold Coast is copping an economic hit potentially worth hundreds of millions of dollars as a result of having the nation's earliest sunset.

However the exact amount of the losses have not been quantified because no-one has done a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis of daylight savings for the city.

Dr Michael Raybould, an economist and Associate Professor of Tourism Management at Bond University, said the impact of not aligning with New South Wales and Victoria was wide ranging, but particularly harmful for business and tourism.

"I can see a variety of impacts and economic penalties for us (for not having daylight savings)," he said.

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For people still to sign

Daylight Saving Petition closing February 20 2017, 11:59pm


http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/work-of-assembly/petitions/e-petition?PetNum=2686 

[verbatim9]

Daylightsaving will lead to a better quality of life in Qld when adopted ---> http://www.4bc.com.au/podcast/would-daylight-saving-lead-to-better-quality-of-life/

[verbatim9]

Kids & Adults adjust quite fine to the change over to DaylightSaving https://t.co/g3umY6gi4P

[verbatim9]

Daylight Saving begins this Sunday and people in NSW still love it. Time for Qld to adopt Daylight Saving? https://t.co/TWJBuo2DRm qldpol

[Cazza]

Going down to NSW tonight and coming back Monday... Going to gain an extra hour of my life

[verbatim9]

Daylight Saving Ticks of Approval

✓8 pm Summer Sunsets statewide

✓5.30am-6.30am Summer Sunrises statewide

✓Alleviates afternoon peak electricity demand with roof top solar

✓Shifts UV alert to later in the morning

✓Safe utilisation of pools, beaches and parks without excessive UV exposure until 10am and from 4pm-8pm

✓No need of flood lighting parks prior to 8pm during the summer

✓Cooler on average mornings as a result

√Safer commutes for pedestrians, cyclists, Public Transport users and motorists in afternoon peak during the months of Summer statewide.

✓Helps prevent loss off wildlife via less road kill. Especially koalas due to not clashing with afternoon peak traffic.

✓Confusion free Air and Land travel between Queensland and Southern States (improving logistics).

✓Live Tv broadcasts from Sydney and Melbourne

Queensland Daylight Saving Zones

https://goo.gl/maps/9YW87Rrzp1k

[verbatim9]

A great Youtube Video explaining why to reintroduce Daylight Saving to Qld