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BCC Petition

Removal of ads from BCC bus windows

>> http://www.epetitions.brisbane.qld.gov.au/petition/view/pid/542

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Another example from Victoria:

https://twitter.com/tonybmorton/status/994702094174113792

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https://twitter.com/Jeffrey_Addison/status/999760549683519488

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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #132 on: November 03, 2018, 05:36:22 PM »
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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #133 on: November 04, 2018, 01:37:29 AM »
Sent to all outlets:

4th November 2018

Call to remove ad-wrap from windows of public transport vehicles

Greetings,

There are significant problems with ad-wrap on buses, trains, ferries and trams blocking windows vision.  Public transport vehicles are built with windows for a reason, so passengers and others can see into and out of them. Public transport vehicles are not built window-less are they? The windows should not be blocked.  This is very disorientating for passengers, particularly at night and/or when wet, and also makes it very difficult if not impossible to see into the vehicle.  The  blocking of window vision could have very serious safety and security implications as well.

We have been calling for its removal for many years now.  The calls have largely fallen on deaf ears.  There is a growing national awareness of need to bring back clear windows on public transport vehicles.  Some recent reports on Twitter:

NSW: https://twitter.com/FixNSWTransport/status/976257279321190400

Sydney bus



Victoria: https://twitter.com/tonybmorton/status/994702094174113792

Melbourne tram



Queensland: https://twitter.com/Jeffrey_Addison/status/999760549683519488

Brisbane train


South Australia:


Adelaide tram


Australian Rail Maps on twitter made this comment yesterday:

" Advertising on windows of buses, trains and trams betrays a prejudice that those outside the vehicle are more important than those inside. It’s insulting. And to make it worse, when you object, the response is so often “But they’re transparent”. No, they’re not."


We agree strongly.  It is a sign of disrespect and contempt for public transport passengers to block their vision by covering up windows with ad-wrap.  Time to get rid of it.  Advertisements can still be placed on public transport vehicles preserving the revenue,  but leave the windows clear please!

Thank you!

Best wishes,

Robert

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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #134 on: November 04, 2018, 01:52:35 AM »
https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1058748645074382848

https://twitter.com/railbotforum/status/1058840764203982849
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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #135 on: November 04, 2018, 12:39:54 PM »
Something else that is directly related to this ad-wrap issue.  A well respected source has told me
that mothers have complained that their autistic children freak out in public transport vehicles that
have the windows blocked with ad-wrap. So there are health impacts  to consider as well. 
I am confident there would be other individuals with PTSD etc. that would also have difficulties.

But seriously, why do they turn public transport vehicles into tin cans?  They are built with windows for a reason.

Time it was removed!

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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #136 on: November 13, 2018, 05:18:43 PM »
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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #137 on: December 06, 2018, 10:23:40 AM »
http://www.epetitions.brisbane.qld.gov.au/petition/view/pid/542

Removal of ads from BCC bus windows

Residents draw to the attention of the Lord Mayor, problems with visibility and safety caused by advertising covering bus windows.

Your petitioners therefore request that BCC discontinues the practice of covering bus windows with advertising wraps.

Council response

In the current financial year, Council expects to provide a Public Transport Operating Subsidy of $126.5 million, which supports the operation of quality bus and ferry services across the city and suburbs. Revenue from advertising on buses assists Council in providing this high level of funding support for public transport. Without advertising revenue, Council would need to consider reducing public transport service levels or increasing general rates to fill any funding gap.

It is important to note, however, that Council already takes steps to ensure that external advertising on buses does not unreasonably impact on passengers. Council currently has more than 1,200 buses in its bus fleet, however, relatively few buses have advertising that fully covers windows.

The most common form of external commercial advertising used is a Portrait Side display, which is a 1.4 metre wide advertisement positioned on the side of a 12.5 metre-long bus. Council also makes use of the rear of its bus fleet, which is generally window-free, for advertising purposes.

The number of fully-wrapped buses represents only five percent of the entire fleet. The majority of these wraps are used for Council and community purposes, including to identify the iconic Blue and Maroon CityGlider services, the Spring Hill Free Loop, commemorating the Centenary of Anzac Day and to promote the 2019 INAS Global Games.

The wrap used on Blue CityGlider buses has recently been updated and refreshed to allow improved passenger visibility, with significantly less window coverage. Council is currently reviewing the wrap being used on the Maroon CityGlider buses and will initiate a similar update program commencing in 2019.

Council acknowledges that some passengers may have concerns about visibility from bus windows. At present, the material being used for bus advertising is perforated, with hundreds of pin holes allowing passengers to be able to see through the artwork. The product being used is the only commercially available product which meets the Australian Design Standards. The product is used by a number of different transport agencies throughout Australia and around the world.

Therefore, Council does not support the removal of advertising from Council bus windows at this time.
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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #138 on: December 07, 2018, 04:57:26 AM »
Garbage response.  If the majority of fully wrapped vehicles are vanity projects only, then the imposition on the public is not bringing in any money to justify it (which itself is a paper thin excuse - note they don't say how much the advertising actually brings in, and what proportion is attributable to wraps).
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Re: 24 Sep 2014: SEQ: Can we please see out of and into buses, trains and trams!
« Reply #139 on: December 17, 2018, 06:17:45 PM »


I would like to point out that there were almost buses with ads covering the windows at all. The only ads are down the sides of the bus, below the windows and on the backs. Can't see why this is too much of a stretch for BCC.

 

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