Bus Priority

[#Metro]

I know I have asked this question before, I can't seem to find the answer on the site.
BCC buses at least have transponders. Are these in use to give the bus priority at traffic lights within the city?
If not, would it be a hard task to get these going?

[somebody]

I know I have asked this question before, I can't seem to find the answer on the site.
BCC buses at least have transponders. Are these in use to give the bus priority at traffic lights within the city?
If not, would it be a hard task to get these going?

I believe that is for the PIDs, rather than any priority system.  Sydney is developing a bus priority system to integrate with traffic lights.  Only applies to late running buses, but you should be able to squeeze the timetable a bit more.

[#Metro]

I'm not sure it was to do with the PID system.

Although these work by detecting the buses at traffic lights using loops in the road which is then relayed to a computer somewhere which then gives estimation of the arrival time. Why can't that information be routed to another computer elsewhere and then back to the traffic light to change it to green? There already is a big traffic control centre that controls all these things across the city...

[Otto]

BT buses have had Transponders fitted since the late 80's.. All BT buses can be tracked via BLISS and more recently via GPS.. As for bus priority when running late, this has been promised for years... I'm not holding my breath !!

[somebody]

BT buses have had Transponders fitted since the late 80's.. All BT buses can be tracked via BLISS and more recently via GPS.. As for bus priority when running late, this has been promised for years... I'm not holding my breath !!

Does the BLISS system actually work?  The PIDs which I believe are driven off it are completely useless.

[Otto]

BT buses have had Transponders fitted since the late 80's.. All BT buses can be tracked via BLISS and more recently via GPS.. As for bus priority when running late, this has been promised for years... I'm not holding my breath !!

Does the BLISS system actually work?  The PIDs which I believe are driven off it are completely useless.

They do work 'most' times.. and yes, they are run from BLISS..
Having said that, I do know a few PIDs that are never right..
One night I noticed the PIDs along Old Cleveland Road showing times for a route that is on the northside instead of 204s... Someone fed the wrong info into the system..

[ozbob]

http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=362&id=301

A practitioners guide to bus movement and priority

[ozbob]

This tweet caught me eye ...

==============

Twitter

patrick kennedy ‏@WalkableDFW

Bus service becomes inefficient to point of infeasibility when it is forced to adapt to car-dependent transpo network and land use patterns

[longboi]

I'm not sure it was to do with the PID system.

Although these work by detecting the buses at traffic lights using loops in the road which is then relayed to a computer somewhere which then gives estimation of the arrival time. Why can't that information be routed to another computer elsewhere and then back to the traffic light to change it to green? There already is a big traffic control centre that controls all these things across the city...

That's the biggest drawback. If a bus doesn't pass a transponder (i.e. when not at an intersection with loops), the time can be completely out.

My advice to people is always the same; Don't use them. The paper timetable is more reliable.

[HappyTrainGuy]

I'm not sure it was to do with the PID system.

Although these work by detecting the buses at traffic lights using loops in the road which is then relayed to a computer somewhere which then gives estimation of the arrival time. Why can't that information be routed to another computer elsewhere and then back to the traffic light to change it to green? There already is a big traffic control centre that controls all these things across the city...

That's the biggest drawback. If a bus doesn't pass a transponder (i.e. when not at an intersection with loops), the time can be completely out.

My advice to people is always the same; Don't use them. The paper timetable is more reliable.

Popped into Chermside this evening. Waiting on Hamilton Road and the pids displayed 9.4Xam..... close enough