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Brisbanetimes --> Early discussions on new Luggage Point cruise ship terminal

QuoteThe state government and the Port of Brisbane are in negotiations to build a new cruise terminal near the mouth of the Brisbane River that could accommodate the new breed of superliner.

The inability of Portside Hamilton, upstream from the Gateway Bridges, to accommodate larger vessels has seen ships, such as Cunard's Queen Mary 2, dock at container yards at Fisherman Islands.

The $750 million Hamilton Portside cruise ship terminal opened in August 2006, but two years later the need for a larger capacity facility was already being voiced.

State Development Minister Anthony Lynham said plans were already underway at a business lunch this week.
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When discussing the impact of Echo Entertainment's Queens Wharf development on the state's economy, Dr Lynham said transport facilities, such as Brisbane Airport's parallel runway and a new cruise terminal, were needed to maximise Brisbane's tourism dollar.

"The second runway is on track and I'm in negotiations as well – initial negotiations, I will say – on a cruise ship terminal down near the mouth of the Brisbane River to take those big cruise ships," he said.

"So for us, for tourism in Brisbane and in south-east Queensland it's just go, go, go, all leading towards when this resort opens."

A spokeswoman for Dr Lynham later sought to downplay the significance of the comments, but confirmed "early discussions about the concept of a cruise ship terminal in Brisbane" had been held.

"It's all at a very preliminary stage," she said ...


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New Brisbane Cruise Terminal a step closer

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/brisbanes-100-million-cruise-ship-terminal-gets-closer-20161221-gtfzzm.html

QuoteBrisbane's new $100 million cruise ship terminal at the mouth of the Brisbane River at Luggage Point has 80 per cent of its approvals in place and the project will now seek approval from State Cabinet in early 2017.<br />
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Approvals with*Brisbane City Council to upgrade roads are now in place and Maritime Safety Queensland has ruled the cruise ship's "swing basin" capacity as suitable for the first five years.

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Full article on Brisbane Times

^^The largest ship sparks building time frame

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Excellent! Wonder what Public Transport options will be decided on. Buz via Portside? Airport Line (Spur line) via Skygate? Electric Feeder Bus to the proposed Skygate Station?

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Cazza

Quote from: verbatim9 on October 25, 2017, 13:36:21 PM
Excellent! Wonder what Public Transport options will be decided on. Buz via Portside? Airport Line (Spur line) via Skygate? Electric Feeder Bus to the proposed Skygate Station?

I feel like spur from the Airport Line could work. Done a quick drawing here: https://www.google.com.au/maps/d/edit?mid=1HcOS9EPxyGJkOCRPhctU1Qgy-vg&ll=-27.41456898494542%2C153.0918781867249&z=13

This probably is more of a long term solution with the short term being high frequency, high capacity buses with lots of luggage storage running out there. But, if the QG tried hard enough with funding and not playing around, I reckon this could be done by 2020. A huge boost to SEQ's rail network is well overdue.

James

Quote from: verbatim9 on October 25, 2017, 13:36:21 PM
Excellent! Wonder what Public Transport options will be decided on. Buz via Portside? Airport Line (Spur line) via Skygate? Electric Feeder Bus to the proposed Skygate Station?

Nothing. The state government has no interest in providing PT, the state government has no money to build a railway line, and there are far too many populated areas of Brisbane crying out for a service as is.

Due to the nature of the cruise terminal, and the volume of passengers passing through, there probably isn't much of a case to put anything beyond a token coverage service out that way, if anything at all. Better off investing the money in servicing the suburbs and upgrading existing services.

Such a route would also be very expensive to fund - it's about 8-10km from Portside, any extension would cost a significant amount of money. Any rail line extension would be better off going from Doomben, or going under the runways and over to the cruise terminal (ignoring the obvious geotechnical challenge of tunnelling in that are).
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

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Quote from: Cazza on October 25, 2017, 16:56:52 PM
Quote from: verbatim9 on October 25, 2017, 13:36:21 PM
Excellent! Wonder what Public Transport options will be decided on. Buz via Portside? Airport Line (Spur line) via Skygate? Electric Feeder Bus to the proposed Skygate Station?

I feel like spur from the Airport Line could work. Done a quick drawing here: https://www.google.com.au/maps/d/edit?mid=1HcOS9EPxyGJkOCRPhctU1Qgy-vg&ll=-27.41456898494542%2C153.0918781867249&z=13

This probably is more of a long term solution with the short term being high frequency, high capacity buses with lots of luggage storage running out there. But, if the QG tried hard enough with funding and not playing around, I reckon this could be done by 2020. A huge boost to SEQ's rail network is well overdue.
Looks like a decent alignment.



ozbob

Couriermail --> Business owners believe Brisbane international cruise ship terminal will breathe new life into Pinkenba



QuotePINKENBA business owners have called on local and state governments to beautify the area and reopen the railway line in time for the arrival of the international cruise terminal at Luggage Point.

The Palaszczuk Government on Tuesday announced that the $150 million privately built cruise terminal will be ready at Luggage Point near the Port of Brisbane in two years.

Vehicular access to the cruise terminal will pass through Pinkenba, the last residential suburb before Luggage Point.

Gary Power owner of the local legendary hotel The Pink said it's time for the State Government and Brisbane City Council to band together and give Pinkenba a makeover and reopen the railway line which closed in 1993 after 11 years in operation.

"It's absolutely time for the railway line to reopen. In fact it should have happened a long time ago. I've been here 10 years and it should have been open then," Mr Power said.

"The amount of business and infrastructure out here since the railway line was shut down has been incredible. It goes all the way out to Luggage Point now."

Pinkenba's population is a mere 368, according to the ABS Census, 28 more than in 2011 and it has 65 families and 135 dwellings.

It's been dubbed the 'land that time forgot' and Mr Power said Pinkenba would welcome the trade generated by the cruise terminal and planned improvements to the major road, but it's the scenery which needs an uplift.

"Instead of having a bush, it needs to be more presentable. At the moment it's just dust and bush," he said

"The whole area will get a lift when they put in another lane for traffic which is part of the plans."

Mr Power has also put his money where his mouth is by announcing The Pink was likely to be bulldozed and replaced with a modern tavern that will have 38 rooms.

"When we heard it (the cruise terminal) was a possibility we had plans drawn up and we'll possibly rebuild the whole tavern. Everything has been approved," he said.

Next door to The Pink is Brahman Pies, run by Ken Brouwer.

Mr Brouwer said Mr Power had nailed his own thought but he doubts either the council or the Palaszczuk Government will move quickly, if at all, to revitalise Pinkenba.

"We're just 12 kilometres from the city and the airport's over the back. For this area to be like this at this point in time is absolutely mind boggling.

"The railway definitely has to open," he said.

"There's no real infrastructure in this region and such a megastructure like the cruise terminal will push Pinkenba along ... but with any government department they are not terribly proactive. They are reactionary."

Pinkenba may be the first residential suburb international tourists pass through after they disembark at the cruise terminal but their initial impression will be the Urban Utilities sewage plant.

They'll pass airport hangar and maintenance facilities, the Boral Distribution centre at Myrtletown before coming across the dilapidated Pinkenba School which closed in 2010 and has remained unoccupied since. It's up for lease.

Mr Power said there will be long term benefits, but the railway line should be a priority and run to the cruise terminal.

Only the platform remains of the former railway station.

Queensland Rail has been contacted for comment.
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Cazza

QuoteLooks like a decent alignment.

Cheers. Having the tracks elevated above the road requires the least property resumptions and space to build so it will (generally) come out at a lower building cost.



Having support structure like the one above (e.g. branching out on both sides then going to the ground on the sides of the road) doesn't require any big changes to the road below and can be a quite cost effective way of building (as apposed to building a median strip down the road to ground the pier).

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There isn't going to be meaningful public transport there.  Cruise lines ship their passengers around on coaches.  The demand for anybody else is going to be minuscule at best - how many ships per day are we talking?
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I worked out there at Pinkenba over the last two weeks and the road is in need of desperate upgrades. First of all there is no shoulder also no segregated bikeway which is also needed. Power needs to be placed underground where possible. A lit bikeway could be built along the old rail track. Would be much safer than going along the road with all those trucks. Hopefully a High Frequency Bus corridor can be identified from the new Cruise Terminal to the CBD servicing also the apartments along route which are currently being built.

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Couriermail --> Expert says Brisbane mega-cruise ship terminal will bring boom


An artist's impression of the Brisbane International Cruise Terminal at Luggage Point.


QuoteQUEENSLAND will be at the forefront of the cruise industry in South-East Asia, thanks to a new mega-cruise ship terminal planned for Brisbane.

International cruise expert Arnold Donald, who heads up the world's biggest leisure travel company, said the terminal put Brisbane in prime place to boost its cruising business.

Mr Donald, the chief executive of Carnival Corporation, last week visited Port of Brisbane's $158 million International Cruise Terminal, due for completion at Luggage Point in 2020.

"This will put Queensland at the forefront of the cruise industry, not only in Australia but frankly in this entire region as well," Mr Donald said.

"The terminal will elevate our guest experience, allow us to bring even more guests and eventually larger ships, which will become a huge economic multiplier for Brisbane."

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the new terminal would pump billions of dollars into tourism.

"This terminal will be completed roughly around the same time as the second (airport) runway so you are going to have tourism just going to that next level," she said.

An artist's impression shows a slick and expansive terminal building. It's in stark contrast to the industrial surrounds of the current multi-user terminal, where mega-cruise ship guests now disembark beside cargo ships and grain and coal facilities.

Ships longer than 270m cannot currently reach Hamilton's Portside Wharf.

Among them are the Queen Mary 2 and Princess Cruises' new 330m, 143,700 tonne flagship Majestic Princess, which will dock for the first time in September with up to 3560 guests on board.

Port of Brisbane chief executive Roy Cummins, who noted cruising was the fastest growing shipping sector, said the present landing spot didn't make for the best passenger experience.

"We had to do something or Queensland risked losing some of these mega-vessels," he said.
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Brisbanetimes --> Queensland cruise ship industry booming, new stats show

QuoteMore cruise ships are coming to Queensland than any other state and the state's cruise industry has risen to an estimated worth of $500 million for the first time, according to new stats.

It comes almost five months after the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission gave the green light to the planned Port of Brisbane mega-cruise ship terminal upgrade. ...
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South-East Queensland's first mega cruise ship terminal

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Quote from: ozbob on November 08, 2018, 12:51:57 PM
South-East Queensland's first mega cruise ship terminal


Looks great! We just need confirmation from Council and State Government in reference to a public transport link to the terminal as well as cycle links. A good cycle link would best run along the old rail corridor from Doomben then join the new road corridor past the Pinkenba Hotel to the cruise terminal on a segregated path.

I think a Cbd - Hamilton/Cruise Terminal Glider could be the go, via Skygate and Hamilton North Shore also servicing Racecourse road and Portside.

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Contracts awarded for construction of the new Cruise Terminal in Brisbane

https://www.portbris.com.au/Media/News/Contracts-awarded,-construction-imminent-for-mega/

QuoteContracts awarded, construction imminent for mega cruise terminal

Port of Brisbane Pty Ltd (PBPL) has announced the principal contractors for its $158 million Brisbane International Cruise Terminal, paving the way for construction to begin in the coming months.

Wharf construction will be undertaken by Brady Marine & Civil, a specialist marine infrastructure and engineering contractor headquartered in Brisbane.

The civil works and terminal building will be delivered by Hindmarsh, a leading Australian construction company.

Minister for State Development, Manufacturing, Infrastructure and Planning, Cameron Dick welcomed the announcement and said the government had worked closely with Port of Brisbane throughout the process.

"The Port of Brisbane's $158 million Brisbane International Cruise Terminal signals bright horizons for the cruising industry in Queensland," Mr Dick said.

"It is expected to contribute $1.3 billion in net expenditure into the Brisbane economy alone over the coming two decades.

"An estimated 245 jobs will be supported during each year of construction, while an additional 49 jobs will be supported each year over the next 20 years.

"Queenslanders are eagerly awaiting the opening of the terminal next year, which will be ready for the 2020 cruising season."

PBPL CEO Roy Cummins said the tender process had attracted a high-quality field, but ultimately the successful contractors provided the right mix of expertise, capabilities and value for money for the project.

"Both Brady Marine & Civil and Hindmarsh are highly regarded in their fields," Mr Cummins said.

"Importantly, both have strong track records for innovation and project delivery, together with the proven experience and capabilities required to help us deliver this world-class cruise facility.

"With the start of major construction of the Brisbane International Cruise Terminal now imminent, we look forward to sharing the progress and milestones with the community as the new facility begins to take shape."

Mr Cummins said early preparation for the wharf had already begun, with ABFI Steel Group (a local Brisbane-based company) undertaking the task of manufacturing 105 piles, up to 45m long, needed to support the wharf.

Piling is expected to commence soon, with wharf construction to follow.

Relocation of approximately 85,000 cubic metres of surcharge (clean sand) is currently underway. Hindmarsh will begin to prepare the site for construction in March, with works commencing in Apri

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The Premier says Brisbane's first mega cruise ship terminal is on track to open next year, with construction underway. The project is expected to inject more than a billion dollars into the economy and create hundreds of jobs. @MarlinaWhop #7NEWS https://t.co/uSqmLYfzjO

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1118065911942959104

^^18 months away from opening. Hopefully there is a public transport solution in place by then. There was a plan from council to implement a BUZ service to the terminal via Ascot and Hamilton. If that doesn't come into fruition, an electric bus from Skygate operated by BAC?

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Queensland's international cruise season is officially underway, with thousands of guests arriving in Brisbane today. This year, it's expected to be bigger than ever before, injecting millions of dollars into the state's economy. @ijmullen #7NEWS https://t.co/tqWq6twvsJ

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1173155393339441153

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This timelapse video shows the elevated passenger walkway being installed at the Pinkenba facility. The $177 million dollar terminal is due for completion later this year. https://t.co/VZ3A1cpmr5 #7NEWS https://t.co/5Lc0Z1RkdT

https://twitter.com/7NewsBrisbane/status/1232595833649946624

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In Queensland---False Dawn: Our resident cruise ship may never make it back to Queensland

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The cruise ship The Pacific Dawn may not return to its home port of Brisbane. (AP Photo/Rick Rycroft)
The Queensland Government has banned foreign-flagged cruise ships from entering state waters indefinitely, with changes to public health orders required to change the situation. Federal laws also enforce the ban until mid-September at least.

In response, P&O Cruises has placed a "rolling pause" on operations until September 17. Its Pacific Dawn ship is normally based at the Portside terminal in Brisbane and was due to be the first to take passengers at the larger International Cruise Ship Terminal on October 3.

However, the Pacific Dawn has been in a holding pattern with hundreds of other ships, initially in Manila Bay and now east of Singapore, for months. Operators have had to negotiate to change crews and restock, with many ports closing due to concerns over COVID-19. Another cruise ship captain, Tony Ruggero on the Sea Princess, reported more than 300 ships within a range of 20 nautical miles from his own.

The window for the Dawn Princess to return to Australia is also closing: it is due to be transferred to new owners in early 2021 and become the London-based CMV Amy Johnson.

P&O Cruises has promised its next, and largest, member of the Australian fleet will be based in Brisbane – the Pacific Encounter, now sailing as Star Princess and also in a holding pattern off the Americas – along with another of its ships.

The Pacific Dawn has the capacity to carry 2020 passengers whereas the Star Princess can carry 2600 and will find it easier to dock at the new Luggage Point terminal than upstream at the existing Portside facility.

"P&O Cruises has a long and proud connection with Brisbane which we are looking forward to continuing when cruise operations can resume," a spokesperson said.

"P&O's first-ever cruise from Australia called at Brisbane in December 1932 with the arrival of Strathaird. Queensland has continued as a heartland market for P&O with a ship based year-round in Brisbane since 2004 including Pacific Dawn's home porting from 2009 enabling many Queenslanders to discover the joys of cruising from their doorstep.

"When cruise operations ultimately resume, P&O Cruises has plans to base two ships in Brisbane reflecting the strength of the Queensland cruise market and its future potential once the COVID-19 crisis has passed and Australians again feel confident to cruise."

The $277 million terminal is due to have a visit from the Sydney-based and recently refurbished Pacific Explorer on October 18, followed by the Voyager of the Seas – linked to the COVID-19 death of a Toowoomba man – on October 20. Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk inspected work on the terminal in March and said it was an investment in current and future jobs.

The now-infamous Ruby Princess, linked to more than 20 deaths, has returned to north American cruise routes, only a year after coming to Australia.


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I guess the article is referring to the new expanded facility at Portside? Or are they referring to P&O also using the new terminal at Luggage Point?

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Cruise Passenger---> EXCLUSIVE: Royal Carribbean Expects To Homeport In Brisbane Year-Round

QuoteRoyal Caribbean is planning to deploy one of its ships in Brisbane year-round, capitalising on the new port infrastructure and the warm climate of Queensland.

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I am also highlighting the need for a regular bus service from 6am to 11pm 7 days to cater for passengers and workers at the terminal.

Another plausible solution is to have the Gold Glider go to Skygate, with BAC electric bus transfer from there. Skygate should act a major transfer hub for the airport precinct. They should get cracking on Skygate train station as well.

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Brisbanetimes --> Bon voyage for Portside Hamilton as Brisbane's cruise ship terminal

QuoteBrisbane's Portside Wharf is a cruise ship terminal no more.

For 16 years, Portside Wharf has operated at Hamilton as Brisbane's cruise terminal, welcoming and waving goodbye to holidaymakers aboard 1250 large ships. ...

...The new terminal downstream opened in June 2022 and the one at Portside has closed its doors. ...

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