LNP releases first 100 day action plan

[ozbob]

LNP releases first 100 day action plan

http://www.candoqld.com.au/news/leader-of-the-lnp/lnp-releases-first-100-day-action-plan

One minor mention for public transport ..

[Jonno]

Bring on the road-only Infrstructure Plan.  He is an Engineer taught in the best "Roads are the Only Solution" traditions. 

[Barbar]

Bring on the road-only Infrstructure Plan.  He is an Engineer taught in the best "Roads are the Only Solution" traditions. 

Yep, it looks like its bye bye CRR....unfortunately I kinda think its just too big a public infrastructure project for Queensland politics to handle; now if only CRR infrastructure was needed by the mining companies but that's different story.

[Jonno]

Bring on the road-only Infrstructure Plan.  He is an Engineer taught in the best "Roads are the Only Solution" traditions. 

Yep, it looks like its bye bye CRR....unfortunately I kinda think its just too big a public infrastructure project for Queensland politics to handle; now if only CRR infrastructure was needed by the mining companies but that's different story.

If that is the case then Queensland is just too big for Queensland politics

[ozbob]

From the Brisbane mX 19th March 2012 page 1

Hold the bus

[ozbob]

Interesting comment by Mr Emerson .... 

Are the grand plans on hold?

[#Metro]

Interesting comment by Mr Emerson ....

Are the grand plans on hold?

Looks like they need a big dose of Metamucil for relieving the policy constipation 

[somebody]

Interesting comment by Mr Emerson .... 

Are the grand plans on hold?

Probably just like the PTAG - If you don't want to make a decision, appoint a committee.

I really don't understand why you appear to want to go back to periodical tickets like Melbourne.  They don't fulfil one of Jarrett Walker's requirements: "It gives me the freedom to change my plans" if you need to go into different zones.  While extensions could be provided automatically in theory, this is far more complexity than what is required, and I'm not sure if it is provided in Melbourne.  It should be as simple as possible.  And higher off peak discounts are effectively giving with one hand while taking away with another.  Really, what we need to do is get the base fare down, none of this 9 then free garbage.

I'm quite baffled by why after all this time you still appear to want them, or any sort of discount for peak hour commuters.

[ozbob]

Interesting comment by Mr Emerson ....  

Are the grand plans on hold?

Probably just like the PTAG - If you don't want to make a decision, appoint a committee.

I really don't understand why you appear to want to go back to periodical tickets like Melbourne.  They don't fulfil one of Jarrett Walker's requirements: "It gives me the freedom to change my plans" if you need to go into different zones.  While extensions could be provided automatically in theory, this is far more complexity than what is required, and I'm not sure if it is provided in Melbourne.  It should be as simple as possible.  And higher off peak discounts are effectively giving with one hand while taking away with another.  Really, what we need to do is get the base fare down, none of this 9 then free garbage.

I'm quite baffled by why after all this time you still appear to want them, or any sort of discount for peak hour commuters.

Get a grip Simon,  who is saying I want to go back to periodical tickets.  For goodness sake, discounted weekly ticket is LNP speak for a nine journey cap.  There is more to be done, particularly off peak and flagfall.  That is what I was referring too.  Can you please stop putting incorrect slants on things.  Comments are often cut down for publication, and the full context is lost.  How about asking first before assuming?

[somebody]

I think we need to focus more on the flag fall.  Focusing on the off peak discount undermines the argument about improved off peak services being paid for through fares.

[ozbob]

I think we need to focus more on the flag fall.  Focusing on the off peak discount undermines the argument about improved off peak services being paid for through fares.

Disagree, and many others do as well.  Both.  30% has always been the off peak discount traditionally, that is the level that seems to work well.  Frequency and an improved fare structure will actually generate a higher fare box.  The present paradigm is clearly failing. 

[somebody]

Article says that we said "It wasn't enough".  Presumably "It" is referring to 9 then free.  Is that not what we said?  Only raising by 7.5% p.a rather than 15% p.a. isn't enough of a reduction.  I think that's more important.  Perhaps they are quoting from something we said before the 7.5% plan was released, which would make sense.

[ozbob]

No, it is jumbled as many news items are.  It is not enough in the sense that more needs to be done to the fare structure. That is what is being said and what I said.  Ok??

[ozbob]

The big item in that article is the apparent back peddle by the LNP ... now that is interesting ...

Talk to the stakeholders first?  LOL,  reality of government might be looming ..

Will Queensland Rail and TMR kill off the 15 minute frequency on Ferny Grove?

[somebody]

The big item in that article is the apparent back peddle by the LNP ... now that is interesting ...

Talk to the stakeholders first?  LOL,  reality of government might be looming ..

Will Queensland Rail and TMR kill off the 15 minute frequency on Ferny Grove?

I hope you are being paranoid here.

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

20th March 2012

Transport policy failure ...

Greetings,

Yesterday the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson was quoted in the Brisbane mx (Hold the bus, 19 March 2012 page 1 ( http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=7916.msg91401#msg91401 ), as saying they (LNP) would consult with stakeholders before taking action, in an attempt  to explain the failure to mention public transport initiatives in the LNP's  first 100 day action plan, other than a cursory mention of the 9 journey cap implementation date. (In LNP go card speak this is referred to as a 'discounted weekly', a term that is  an idiotic description and an attempt to mislead as well).

Does this back flip now mean that the LNP has gone back on their committment for the increased train frequency on the Ferny Grove line?

Have they now come to realise that Cross River Rail is essential and  band-aid non-solutions will just further exacerbate the transport crisis?

The Sunshine Coast line is a national disgrace, and both the ALP and LNP are in denial.  Treating that region with nothing less than contempt --> http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=7895.0

The failure of the transport system will guarantee that the next Government will be lucky to survive the first term.

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
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[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

20th March 2012

Re: Transport policy failure ...

Greetings,

And ...

" Mr Moloney said V/Line patronage had doubled in the past five years, making it one of the fastest-growing railways in the world.

Soaring petrol prices have played a large part in fuelling the boom.

"A 10 cent rise in petrol equals a 5 per cent rise in patronage," Mr Moloney said. "

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/standing-room-only-on-country-trains/story-fn7x8me2-1226304617865

This puts the looming transport meltdown  into some perspective.  A listener on 612 ABC Brisbane asked a question about the rail into Caloundra.   Responses from all parties except for the ALP ( a distant plan ) was denial of reality.

Oh dear ...

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

Sent to all outlets:

20th March 2012

Transport policy failure ...

Greetings,

Yesterday the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson was quoted in the Brisbane mx (Hold the bus, 19 March 2012 page 1 ( http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=7916.msg91401#msg91401 ), as saying they (LNP) would consult with stakeholders before taking action, in an attempt  to explain the failure to mention public transport initiatives in the LNP's  first 100 day action plan, other than a cursory mention of the 9 journey cap implementation date. (In LNP go card speak this is referred to as a 'discounted weekly', a term that is  an idiotic description and an attempt to mislead as well).

Does this back flip now mean that the LNP has gone back on their committment for the increased train frequency on the Ferny Grove line?

Have they now come to realise that Cross River Rail is essential and  band-aid non-solutions will just further exacerbate the transport crisis?

The Sunshine Coast line is a national disgrace, and both the ALP and LNP are in denial.  Treating that region with nothing less than contempt --> http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=7895.0

The failure of the transport system will guarantee that the next Government will be lucky to survive the first term.

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org