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October 06, 2011, 03:29:36 AM
From the Herald Sun click here!

Train, buses too slow to catch Melbourne's outer sprawl

QuoteTrain, buses too slow to catch Melbourne's outer sprawl

    by: Greg Thom
    From: Herald Sun
    October 06, 2011 12:00AM

PUBLIC transport is failing to keep pace with Melbourne's rapidly growing outer suburbs.

More than 55,000 homes on the metropolitan fringe are outside walking distance of buses, trains and trams, research by the state's peak bus group has revealed.

The analysis showed 43 per cent of housing lots developed between 2004-09 are beyond the reach of the transport network.

A further 21,000 were to be added to the list by this year, placing an estimated 160,000 people off the transport map, and BusVic estimates in some cases entire suburbs have been abandoned to cars.

Greens MP Greg Barber blamed the State Government.

"There was not $1 in Ted Baillieu's first Budget to expand the reach of bus lines on the urban edge," he said.

"This is something that should be as basic in new suburbs as sewerage, streetlights and footpaths."

The BusVic study compared the public transport network with data from the Department of Planning.

Areas deemed to be out of range from public transport were 400m from a bus or tram route or 800m from a train station.

Suburbs with significant areas without public transport include Cranbourne, Caroline Springs, Deer Park, Keysborough, South Morang, Langwarrin and Tarneit.

The study found providing public transport to growth areas was more difficult where adjacent areas did not develop in sequence and where connecting roads between new estates had not yet been built.

Despite rapid population growth on the fringe, no money had been set aside to expand Melbourne's bus network into new estates, BusVic said in its Bus Solutions newsletter.

"Indeed, current studies on extensions to Melbourne's rail network focus entirely on established areas in Melbourne," it said.

A spokesman for Transport Minister Terry Mulder said Bus Victoria's findings ignored the huge expansion of heavy rail services from next year, particularly the expansion of electrified train services to growth areas such as Sunbury and South Morang, and the Regional Rail Link project in the west.

And the new Public Transport Development Authority would look at longer-term planning and the improved integration of services.

Public Transport Users Association treasurer Kerryn Wilmot said residents living in the outer suburban fringe deserved a better deal.

"There are an awful lot of people, like the young, elderly or sick, either confined to their homes or stuck driving cars," she said.

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O_128

#1
October 06, 2011, 07:18:57 AM
Who's fault is this? don't live in the middle of nowhere only to complain about lack of infrastructure.
"Where else but Queensland?"

Stillwater

#2
October 06, 2011, 07:47:29 AM
Prepare the spare bedroom, O_128.  Sorry if I snore, and I prefer meusli to cornflakes.

somebody

#3
October 06, 2011, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: O_128 on October 06, 2011, 07:18:57 AM
Who's fault is this? don't live in the middle of nowhere only to complain about lack of infrastructure.
The govt for approving the developments without the transport infrastructure.

O_128

#4
October 06, 2011, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: Simon on October 06, 2011, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: O_128 on October 06, 2011, 07:18:57 AM
Who's fault is this? don't live in the middle of nowhere only to complain about lack of infrastructure.
The govt for approving the developments without the transport infrastructure.

And what about the people who buy them, they no there are no services or facilities around there yet they move in and complain at the governments expense.
"Where else but Queensland?"

Mr X

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October 06, 2011, 10:48:53 AM
What if no other places are available or that's all they could afford?
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O_128

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October 06, 2011, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: o_O on October 06, 2011, 10:48:53 AM
What if no other places are available or that's all they could afford?

NMP..Not my problem, theres plenty of places they just want a bus to there door and a 5 bedroom McMansion.

And secondly all new developments need a guarantee that public transport be provided to the area, roads are built there so why not PT
"Where else but Queensland?"

Fares_Fair

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October 06, 2011, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: Simon on October 06, 2011, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: O_128 on October 06, 2011, 07:18:57 AM
Who's fault is this? don't live in the middle of nowhere only to complain about lack of infrastructure.
The govt for approving the developments without the transport infrastructure.

+1
No taxation without (public transport) representation !

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Fares_Fair.
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ozbob

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October 09, 2011, 05:39:35 AM
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October 09, 2011, 07:19:19 AM
Quote from: O_128 on October 06, 2011, 10:54:31 AMNMP..Not my problem, theres plenty of places they just want a bus to there door and a 5 bedroom McMansion.

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