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Started by ozbob, July 26, 2011, 03:41:30 AM

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http://www.queenslandrail.com.au/AboutUs/MediaCentre/MediaReleases/Pages/BRISBANECOMMUTERSUSETRAINSTODUMPTRASH.aspx

BRISBANE COMMUTERS USE TRAINS TO DUMP TRASH

22/07/2011

Customers travelling on the south-east Queensland City network are treating trains like a personal rubbish dump with more than 6.5 tonnes of waste being collected by Queensland Rail's new mobile cleaning crews last month.

Chief Executive Officer Paul Scurrah said the 26 members of the new teams were travelling on afternoon services collecting rubbish left by morning peak commuters and lunch time travelers.

"When the first figures started coming in we couldn't believe how much rubbish was being dumped every day across the network, particularly when every train is already cleaned daily," Mr Scurrah said.

"Most of the items we are collecting are discarded newspapers and food wrappers. To be collecting more than a tonne a week means there are a lot of our customers not doing the right thing.

"We hope the presence of our mobile cleaning teams will make people develop a better social conscience and simply take their rubbish with them, and use the bins provided at every train station across our network."

Mr Scurrah said the initiative was introduced as part of the Queensland Rail Customer Charter's commitment to provide comfortable surroundings for customers. The cleaning crews are mobilised across the City network lines before midday each weekday in preparation for the afternoon peak period.

The line most prone to rubbish dumping is the Ipswich line with 1371 kilograms of rubbish collected last month, followed by Cleveland with 1155 kilograms. The cleanest lines are Ferny Grove and Shorncliffe.

"The team members' main priority is to collect rubbish while travelling on trains, however they are also able to provide an additional level of customer service to customers on board. One member recently provided assistance to a young girl who had been travelling on the wrong line. They have also helped reunite owners with their lost property," Mr Scurrah said.

"While we will continue to make every effort to provide a clean and tidy environment for our customers, I would also hope that south-east Queensland commuters begin to take some responsibility for their own actions.

"The City network fleet is owned by the people of Queensland and it's not acceptable for anyone to treat them like a rubbish dump and leave other people to clean up after them.

"We would also ask our customers to provide any feedback directly to us through the Queensland Rail website or give us a call on 131617."
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ozbob

I expect Ipswich line has more rubbish due to the trains running through on the CAB - IPS corridor and the higher frequency and loadings.  Not rocket science,  but a very worthwhile initiative.

The cleanest lines are the shortest?  Fancy that ... LOL
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Gazza

Quote from: ozbob on July 26, 2011, 07:42:06 AM
I expect Ipswich line has more rubbish due to the trains running through on the CAB - IPS corridor and the higher frequency and loadings.  Not rocket science,  but a very worthwhile initiative.

The cleanest lines are the shortest?  Fancy that ... LOL
Needs a new metric....Rubbish per passenger kilometer  :-r

petey3801

Quote from: rob2144 on July 26, 2011, 08:05:26 AM
Hmm whats the bet most of the rubbish is discarded Mx's?

At the time of day the cleaners usually go through the trains in service, no.

It is truely disgusting the amount of rubbish left on the trains after just one run!
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Cam

Plenty of rubbish is also discarded on the way to & from the railway station. Just about every day I pick up discarded rubbish from the nature strip & road out the front of our house which is a couple of hundred metres from a railway station. It is common for there to be multiple items.

I guess that such a small fraction of littering offences are actually witnessed by a transit officer, police officer or a council officer, those that litter may have a better chance of winning a lottery than being fined for littering. Unfortunately, many will continue to litter until they are fined for it - some may need multiple fines for them to alter their behaviour. Some may never alter their behaviour no matter what the consequences.

Until transit officers, police officers & council officers target littering in sufficient numbers, those that litter will continue to do so. I can't see this happening in my lifetime so I expect to continue cleaning up our nature strip & road on a daily basis & Queensland Rail's cleaning crews will never be out of work.

p858snake

Quote from: petey3801 on July 26, 2011, 08:27:29 AM
Quote from: rob2144 on July 26, 2011, 08:05:26 AM
Hmm whats the bet most of the rubbish is discarded Mx's?

At the time of day the cleaners usually go through the trains in service, no.

It is truely disgusting the amount of rubbish left on the trains after just one run!
When I have seen the cleaners on the trains (FG Line) the majority of the rubbish has appeared to have been mX newspapers, Perfectly good ones as well, In wonder if these end up getting recycled?

petey3801

Quote from: p858snake on July 26, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
Quote from: petey3801 on July 26, 2011, 08:27:29 AM
Quote from: rob2144 on July 26, 2011, 08:05:26 AM
Hmm whats the bet most of the rubbish is discarded Mx's?

At the time of day the cleaners usually go through the trains in service, no.

It is truely disgusting the amount of rubbish left on the trains after just one run!
When I have seen the cleaners on the trains (FG Line) the majority of the rubbish has appeared to have been mX newspapers, Perfectly good ones as well, In wonder if these end up getting recycled?

Yes, and I have seen them a lot of other times, on a lot of other lines, at times much earlier than the mX is issued.
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Fares_Fair

Quote from: Gazza on July 26, 2011, 08:15:07 AM
Quote from: ozbob on July 26, 2011, 07:42:06 AM
I expect Ipswich line has more rubbish due to the trains running through on the CAB - IPS corridor and the higher frequency and loadings.  Not rocket science,  but a very worthwhile initiative.

The cleanest lines are the shortest?  Fancy that ... LOL
Needs a new metric....Rubbish per passenger kilometer  :-r

how about rubbish per passenger kilogram ?   :-r

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Golliwog

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"We hope the presence of our mobile cleaning teams will make people develop a better social conscience and simply take their rubbish with them, and use the bins provided at every train station across our network."

Perhaps when the cleaners aren't there, yes. But if I have rubbish and a cleaner walks past collecting rubbish, I'll usually put it in their bag for them.

Actual rubbish is pretty bad, but newspapers are a hard one to put in the rubbish pile. I've caught an early morning train before and read the morning paper on it and finished it by the time I leave the train and sometimes have left it on the seat on the train for someone else to read. Othertimes I have taken it with me and recycled it, but its never been left simply because I don't want to hold onto it anymore.
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ozbob

From the Queensland Times 27th July 2011 page 5

Ipswich rail commuters the biggest grubs



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Submitted to the Queensland Times

Dear Editor,

The article on page 5 of the Queensland Times 27th July 2011, headed "Ipswich rail commuters the biggest grubs" is unfortunately a misrepresentation and an insult to Ipswich line rail commuters.

The data supplied by Queensland Rail is simplistic.  It does not take into account that the busiest rail corridor on the network is the Caboolture - Ipswich line and fails to mention that  in terms of passenger kilometres it is the greatest.

It is therefore no surprise that as it carries the most people travelling the longest distances overall that the rubbish collected overall will be higher than the the short haul lines such as the Ferny Grove and Shorncliffe lines. Properly adjusted for passenger kilometres I would suggest that the Ipswich rail commuters are possibly the tidiest on the system?

None the less, any rubbish left on trains is not acceptable and it is to Queensland Rail's credit that mobile cleaners have been deployed to improve passenger comfort.
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justanotheruser

http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/07/27/ipswich-rail-commuters-the-biggest-grubs/
This doesn't surprise me considering station staff attitude to rubbish! I once asked at the control room if I could put my empty (small) drink container in their rubbish bin as there were no bins on the platform and train was due to leave. The response was just leave it on the seat and it will get cleaned up later!

HappyTrainGuy

You just have to catch the Ipswich train outside of peak hour to see why its the diritest line :P

ozbob

Quote from: HappyTrainGuy on July 28, 2011, 01:29:29 AM
You just have to catch the Ipswich train outside of peak hour to see why its the diritest line :P

I regularly travel in the Ipswich line outside peak, and compared to some other lines much improved of late.
What line do you travel on?
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HappyTrainGuy

I'll definatley agree with you on that one. The Ipswich line has certainly done a backflip over the years. Depending on work I mostly travel Caboolture-Ipswich-Beenleigh and some Cleveland. Beenleigh takes the cake for the worst commuters though (Caboolture is right up there too from my experience). Terriable BO school kids constantly walking up and down the carriages with the gangsta music blaring, grubby looking people in their unwashed tracksuits and raits tails with their feet all over the seats, the druggie groups that assume the other passengers on the train don't notice or smell them sniffing paint thinner, the I don't give a damn about pt spitters and the most annoying try hard kids/teenagers that think their the bees knees by pretending to tag the train windows when they get off (Which I saw again today when Ipswich bound EMU66/60 pulled into Zillmere around midday IIRC).

ozbob

Published Queensland Times 28th July 2011 page 9

Rail rubbish statistics an insult to travellers

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petey3801

If anyone has been on the Rosewood Shuttle after school time, they will know what a (mobile) rubbish dump looks like!
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BribieG

I've been guilty of sneaking the odd apple stalk onto the floor (as a child of depression era parents I was brought up to eat an apple core and all, but the stalk can be a challenge) - why not fit lined bins at each door and collect at Central?

O_128

Quote from: BribieG on July 30, 2011, 21:28:32 PM
I've been guilty of sneaking the odd apple stalk onto the floor (as a child of depression era parents I was brought up to eat an apple core and all, but the stalk can be a challenge) - why not fit lined bins at each door and collect at Central?

I guess its the same as the sharps bins in toilets or the safe places for people to shoot up, putting bins in sends a counter message "don't eat on trains but if you do here are some bins"
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justanotheruser

Quote from: O_128 on July 30, 2011, 22:52:08 PM
Quote from: BribieG on July 30, 2011, 21:28:32 PM
I've been guilty of sneaking the odd apple stalk onto the floor (as a child of depression era parents I was brought up to eat an apple core and all, but the stalk can be a challenge) - why not fit lined bins at each door and collect at Central?

I guess its the same as the sharps bins in toilets or the safe places for people to shoot up, putting bins in sends a counter message "don't eat on trains but if you do here are some bins"
How about a decent number of bins on platforms then to prevent overcrowding at platform entrance which is where the one bin is located. That is if there is a bin on the platform rather than on the other platform or on the concourse!!! That way people could put rubbish in the bin before getting on the train rather than being instructed by station staff to dump the rubbish and someone will clean it up later.

Mr X

Quote from: petey3801 on July 28, 2011, 15:45:48 PM
If anyone has been on the Rosewood Shuttle after school time, they will know what a (mobile) rubbish dump looks like!

Take bus route 868 in the afternoons and you'll get a real cultural experience.

Private school kids are the worst.
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