124/125 post 120 BUZ

[somebody]

Noticed that the 125 exactly follows the 120 BUZ between "Salisbury East" and Garden City.  Should the 125 runs then be converted into 124s for improved legibility and cost effectiveness of the network?  As well as improved frequency to Sunnybank shops from Salisbury.

[Golliwog]

A good point seeing as frequency along the route there should be fine. I'd be a bit hesitant as that would cut the link between the SE Busway and The Construction Training Center and Nyanda High School. Though the HS could be fairly easily served by either a one off deviation at the start and end of school, or a school run. I remember FGSHS had both with the 397/398 starting from/terminating at the school bus stop as well as a number of other school bus runs.

[somebody]

Does Nyanda+CTC need a link to Garden City?  It's still connected to the SEB at Mater Hill and the Gabba.  Great Circle also provides a Garden City/Nyanda+CTC link.

[Golliwog]

Thats what I'm not sure of. But if the GCL serves that purpose then it would probably be acceptable, though I would like to see what happens with the GCL as to whether it gets split or whatever first.

[Andrew]

Should the 125 runs then be converted into 124s for improved legibility and cost effectiveness of the network?

Absolutely Not!  The 125 provides a vital link between the Ipswich Rd corridor (PA Hospital, Annerley), Moorooka and the western side of Salisbury with the QEII Hospital, Griffith Uni Nathan, Hibiscus Pool, Clairvaux MacKillop, Upper Mt Gravatt area and Garden City.  I can see the logic behind your suggestion and I think the logic is sound.  But I think in this case it should stay as is because the 120 is only limited stops and it serves a different catchment area once passing Salisbury East.

[somebody]

Should the 125 runs then be converted into 124s for improved legibility and cost effectiveness of the network?

Absolutely Not!  The 125 provides a vital link between the Ipswich Rd corridor (PA Hospital, Annerley), Moorooka and the western side of Salisbury with the QEII Hospital, Griffith Uni Nathan, Hibiscus Pool, Clairvaux MacKillop, Upper Mt Gravatt area and Garden City.  I can see the logic behind your suggestion and I think the logic is sound.  But I think in this case it should stay as is because the 120 is only limited stops and it serves a different catchment area once passing Salisbury East.

You raise a valid issue regarding the all stops.  Looking at the 120, the only gap more than about 650m between stops in that area is between Hibiscus and Kessels Corner.  You could add a stop (or two) in between these stops and it wouldn't slow the service for the part where I would assume its more busy.  Having sorted that issue, I'm not convinced that the other stops are too far apart.

The other issue would be that Lilian Ave and Fairley Tce would be without an all stops service, I guess.  I think that Salisbury Station and the 110/115/124 would be close enough, although I guess that could be argued.

Or should we just continue to add more and more routes and thus reduce the legibility of the system?