Transport Minister & Shadow Transport Minister

[mufreight]

Recently Stillwater advised in the following post that the new Shadow Transport Minister Mr Scott Emerson had provided the opportunity for the public to advise him of their priorities on issues of importance to them, from the time of Stillwaters post the numbers of people who felt that public transport was an issue rose from 29 to 31.  Rail Back on Track currently has a membership of over 500 yet it would seem that only two of those members considered public transport sufficently important an issue to avail themselves of this opportunity to express their views and respond by lodging a vote and I was one of those.
A golden opportunity to lobby the cause of public transport with a potential future Transport Minister lost, it is no wonder that the road lobby has more credibility and influence than a group such as RBoT and the needs of rail as a key component of public transport in South East Queensland are ignored by politicians.
With this level of support from the membership generaly is there any point in attempting to push for essential infrastructure improvements to enable the provision of a better standard of public transport.
See Stillwaters post below with the link to Scott Emerson's web site and poll.  

Pssssssst!  Scott Emerson is asking people to vote on the issues of importance to them when they visit his home page.  Right now, traffic congestion leads the list at 30 per cent, with public transport issues are at 17 per cent.  Maybe public transport could do with a boost!  Mr Emerson's home page is http://www.scottemerson.com.au/

[Jonno]

Public transport now leading 30% but my concern remains that traffic congestion can only be solved by public and active transport.

[ozbob]

The public is hearing the message and letting Mr Emerson know!!

http://www.scottemerson.com.au/poll-results/what-is-important-to-you.html

Public Transport Services
40     34.2%    
Traffic Congestion
30     25.6%    
Health and hospitals
15     12.8%    
Environment
8     6.8%    
Preserving local green space
7     6%    
Police and local crime
6     5.1%    
Education
6     5.1%    
Other (please contact us- we may be able to help)
5     4.3%    

[justanotheruser]

Recently Stillwater advised in the following post that the new Shadow Transport Minister Mr Scott Emerson had provided the opportunity for the public to advise him of their priorities on issues of importance to them, from the time of Stillwaters post the numbers of people who felt that public transport was an issue rose from 29 to 31.  Rail Back on Track currently has a membership of over 500 yet it would seem that only two of those members considered public transport sufficently important an issue to avail themselves of this opportunity to express their views and respond by lodging a vote and I was one of those.
A golden opportunity to lobby the cause of public transport with a potential future Transport Minister lost, it is no wonder that the road lobby has more credibility and influence than a group such as RBoT and the needs of rail as a key component of public transport in South East Queensland are ignored by politicians.
With this level of support from the membership generaly is there any point in attempting to push for essential infrastructure improvements to enable the provision of a better standard of public transport.
See Stillwaters post below with the link to Scott Emerson's web site and poll.  

Pssssssst!  Scott Emerson is asking people to vote on the issues of importance to them when they visit his home page.  Right now, traffic congestion leads the list at 30 per cent, with public transport issues are at 17 per cent.  Maybe public transport could do with a boost!  Mr Emerson's home page is http://www.scottemerson.com.au/

get over yourself.  You really must think your so wonderful and better than everyone else it seems.  There is no indication at all in this post that people may not be aware of the poll.  i for example am working two jobs, studying part time and looking after a family of which everyone but me is sick while I have knee problems making it painful to do all the walking I have to do. You are one of the people who think the new transport minister is so wonderful perhaps you can explain to me why their press release said the 503 would service pring st medical district in ipswich when the two bus routes are re-introduced yet nobody else seems to have been told this.

[mufreight]

The 503 bus service has been rerouted because of public (local Ipswich commuters) pressure.
The opportunity exists for the membership of this forum to express their opinion with respect to public transport and influence the possible outcomes, it would seem that all too many while making a lot of noise have little real interest in influencing future outcomes and some would rather spend considerably more time having a personal bitch than making a useful contribution.
As for the new Transport Minister there have been some promising outcomes that bode well for the future and a rethink of position relating to public transport and rail public transport in particular, as a somewhat cynical individual I question what has brought about this apparent change in political attitude but do not believe in looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Form your own opinion, 

[somebody]

I for one had already voted.  My boss said that he felt sorry for Scott if my local member was the Shadow Transport Minister.  I intend to find some time to talk to him.

[Fares_Fair]

me too !
I'd say clearly more than 2 gave their opinion.

Regards,
Fares_Fair

[justanotheruser]

The 503 bus service has been rerouted because of public (local Ipswich commuters) pressure.

So if this has happened why does nobody seem to know about it is the question I asked not why it happened.  Care to answer that? Westside have been officially notified about the two bus routes coming back but they still say there are no changes to the 503. Yet another shambles. The minister is the only one saying there will be changes to the 503. If there are then she needs to step in in a hurry.

The opportunity exists for the membership of this forum to express their opinion with respect to public transport and influence the possible outcomes, it would seem that all too many while making a lot of noise have little real interest in influencing future outcomes and some would rather spend considerably more time having a personal bitch than making a useful contribution.

Still doesn't answer the possibility I raised that some people were not aware of the poll (I wasn't) yet you have labelled them and me as lazy complaining people who would rather have a personal bitch without taking into consideration that they may not have seen the poll.

As for the new Transport Minister there have been some promising outcomes that bode well for the future and a rethink of position relating to public transport and rail public transport in particular, as a somewhat cynical individual I question what has brought about this apparent change in political attitude but do not believe in looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Form your own opinion, 

There is obvious miscommunication between the minister and translink/PT service providors. So yeah maybe they are willing to step in on some things but have clearly mismanaged others. So it is just a situation like any others where they have certain strengths and weaknesses.
When one looks at politics if a minister listens to the people and changes their mind they are accused of doing a backflip and labelled as weak. If they make up their mind and stick to it then they are labelled as arrogant. Its a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

[mufreight]

The 503 bus service has been rerouted because of public (local Ipswich commuters) pressure.

So if this has happened why does nobody seem to know about it is the question I asked not why it happened.  Care to answer that? Westside have been officially notified about the two bus routes coming back but they still say there are no changes to the 503. Yet another shambles. The minister is the only one saying there will be changes to the 503. If there are then she needs to step in in a hurry.

Once more the problem would appear to be the intransigent senior management of Translink, until the last week Translink would not divulge the date of the resumption of the bus routes, has said that the routes would be modified but again no information is avaliable nor is there information avaliable on the timetabling of these routes, the Minister has announced that two of the routes that had been pulled were to be reinstated and that the 503 would be rerouted to cover the Pring Street medical complex, it then becomes the responsibility of Translink to provide the information to the public, once more Translink as an entity has dropped the ball.

The opportunity exists for the membership of this forum to express their opinion with respect to public transport and influence the possible outcomes, it would seem that all too many while making a lot of noise have little real interest in influencing future outcomes and some would rather spend considerably more time having a personal bitch than making a useful contribution.

Still doesn't answer the possibility I raised that some people were not aware of the poll (I wasn't) yet you have labelled them and me as lazy complaining people who would rather have a personal bitch without taking into consideration that they may not have seen the poll.

Information relating to the poll and the link to it were posted three times in two different threads, some members had already availed themselves of the opportunity to lobby for better public transport following the first post by Stillwater, in the two days following his post two people responded to the poll and I was one of then so I made a post to draw attention to the poll and the opportunity it presented, the response was a further two participants who may or may not have been members of this forum hence my second post, your response in itself justifies that second post by the fact that you responded, but did you bother to lodge a vote in the poll?
This poll presents an opportunity to actively lobby for public transport in a poll that will not only come to the notice of Mr Emerson but also the government and if there is a sufficent rsponse will undoubtedly have an effect.
If by infering that many members are apathetic they get  motivated to a more active presence then my effort and time has been productive, if they just get all tangled up and insulted by having the opportunity that this poll presents drawn to their attention then that would indicate to many that there is no legitimate interest in the problems that public transport presents at this time      

[justanotheruser]

The 503 bus service has been rerouted because of public (local Ipswich commuters) pressure.

So if this has happened why does nobody seem to know about it is the question I asked not why it happened.  Care to answer that? Westside have been officially notified about the two bus routes coming back but they still say there are no changes to the 503. Yet another shambles. The minister is the only one saying there will be changes to the 503. If there are then she needs to step in in a hurry.

Once more the problem would appear to be the intransigent senior management of Translink, until the last week Translink would not divulge the date of the resumption of the bus routes, has said that the routes would be modified but again no information is avaliable nor is there information avaliable on the timetabling of these routes, the Minister has announced that two of the routes that had been pulled were to be reinstated and that the 503 would be rerouted to cover the Pring Street medical complex, it then becomes the responsibility of Translink to provide the information to the public, once more Translink as an entity has dropped the ball.

Funny how you have completly ignored that the information about the two buses being reinstated has gone out but information about changes to run has not. How can you be certain this is translinks fault? Translink have confirmed two bus runs being re-introduced but don't seem to know about changes to 503. This would suggest problem is it has not been communicated to them by ministers office.

The opportunity exists for the membership of this forum to express their opinion with respect to public transport and influence the possible outcomes, it would seem that all too many while making a lot of noise have little real interest in influencing future outcomes and some would rather spend considerably more time having a personal bitch than making a useful contribution.

Still doesn't answer the possibility I raised that some people were not aware of the poll (I wasn't) yet you have labelled them and me as lazy complaining people who would rather have a personal bitch without taking into consideration that they may not have seen the poll.

Information relating to the poll and the link to it were posted three times in two different threads, some members had already availed themselves of the opportunity to lobby for better public transport following the first post by Stillwater, in the two days following his post two people responded to the poll and I was one of then so I made a post to draw attention to the poll and the opportunity it presented, the response was a further two participants who may or may not have been members of this forum hence my second post, your response in itself justifies that second post by the fact that you responded, but did you bother to lodge a vote in the poll?
This poll presents an opportunity to actively lobby for public transport in a poll that will not only come to the notice of Mr Emerson but also the government and if there is a sufficent rsponse will undoubtedly have an effect.
If by infering that many members are apathetic they get  motivated to a more active presence then my effort and time has been productive, if they just get all tangled up and insulted by having the opportunity that this poll presents drawn to their attention then theat would indicate to many that there is no legitimate interest in the problems that public transport prsents at this time      
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Yeah I voted in the poll but I do resent you saying I was only interested in bitching when I was not aware of the poll.

[Gazza]

When one looks at politics if a minister listens to the people and changes their mind they are accused of doing a backflip and labelled as weak. If they make up their mind and stick to it then they are labelled as arrogant. Its a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

Yes!
Ideally, they'd never make mistakes, but the nature of government means we often just have to make them see sense, if they 'backflip' then why is that a bad thing? We got what we wanted right?
I'd sooner a government that changes than an arrogant one that doesn't listen.

[somebody]

When one looks at politics if a minister listens to the people and changes their mind they are accused of doing a backflip and labelled as weak. If they make up their mind and stick to it then they are labelled as arrogant. Its a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

Yes!
Ideally, they'd never make mistakes, but the nature of government means we often just have to make them see sense, if they 'backflip' then why is that a bad thing? We got what we wanted right?
I'd sooner a government that changes than an arrogant one that doesn't listen.

What is annoying is when they backflip to people who are obviously talking through a different opening but are very vocal.  It is a good thing that the 505 will be re-instated.

[mufreight]

Quote from Justanotheruser.
Funny how you have completly ignored that the information about the two buses being reinstated has gone out but information about changes to run has not. How can you be certain this is translinks fault? Translink have confirmed two bus runs being re-introduced but don't seem to know about changes to 503. This would suggest problem is it has not been communicated to them by ministers office. Unquote.

Might I suggest that I have ignored nothing, I and a number of other local residents have contacted Translink in respect of the Ministers statement, Translink has the responsibility to disseminate this information but either is reluctant to provide the information requested or simply is once again obfuscating on the issue in the vain hope that they will be able to do nothing and provide some justification to the Minister for having done nothing.
From the track record of late there is no justification for the existence of Translink in its present form.

[johnnigh]

Thanks for the heads-up on Emerson's poll, whoever first posted it where ever on RBOT. I've just caught up, can't spend all day scanning all threads 

PT is now at 56% of 133 voters, running strong, eh? Scott may soon suspect a lobby group of taking over the poll 

[justanotheruser]

When one looks at politics if a minister listens to the people and changes their mind they are accused of doing a backflip and labelled as weak. If they make up their mind and stick to it then they are labelled as arrogant. Its a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.

Yes!
Ideally, they'd never make mistakes, but the nature of government means we often just have to make them see sense, if they 'backflip' then why is that a bad thing? We got what we wanted right?
I'd sooner a government that changes than an arrogant one that doesn't listen.

I don't see it as a bad thing but the media then portrays it as a bad thing and as many people are highly influenced by the media when deciding how to vote (and politicians are aware of this) then it is understandable while sometimes not excusable that they would behave this way.  Sometimes it is good that governments ignore wishes of the people as the best thing for the greater good may not be popular. Classic example of that is the decision by Hawke and Keating to deliberately extend the reccession in the 1990's to reduce inflation which has provided more long term benefits rather than ending the recession quicker.

[Fares_Fair]

Hello justanotheruser,

I think there is a difference between this type of backflip, where a 'perilious' [for want of a better word], situation is rectified by the Minister's actions. This the result of a public outcry by the private school populace.
In light of the Daniel Morecombe case, it's probably entirely justified on those grounds alone.

Compare this to the case of the State Government handing back control of water to local government, but this only after after an announcement by Campbell Newman saying he would dismantle them if elected.
There has been a public outcry over water cost increases and the State Government's creation of another tier of bureaucracy, but this was ignored before, during and after their creation.

The first example was from public outcry, the latter from a political announcement by an opponent.
IMHO, the former is correct and a good decision reversal.

The latter a true backflip.

Regards,
Fares_Fair.

[justanotheruser]

Hello justanotheruser,

I think there is a difference between this type of backflip, where a 'perilious' [for want of a better word], situation is rectified by the Minister's actions. This the result of a public outcry by the private school populace.
In light of the Daniel Morecombe case, it's probably entirely justified on those grounds alone.

Compare this to the case of the State Government handing back control of water to local government, but this only after after an announcement by Campbell Newman saying he would dismantle them if elected.
There has been a public outcry over water cost increases and the State Government's creation of another tier of bureaucracy, but this was ignored before, during and after their creation.

The first example was from public outcry, the latter from a political announcement by an opponent.
IMHO, the former is correct and a good decision reversal.

The latter a true backflip.

Regards,
Fares_Fair.

couldn't agree more but just facing reality.  Untill people learn to make up their own mind we'll be stuck with it. Another common way of influencing peoples votes is the preferred candidate will always be shown full of energy eg John Howard doing his morning walk. Didn't see much footage of that at the election he lost! For the candidate they don't want they will only show pictures of them tired. For newspapers that is easy just take a pic of them after the final sitting of parliament for the term which usually goes to 3 or 4 in the morning. Anyone would look tired then and then only use that picture. While it is very subtle it works. Surveys conducted often have people mentioning how one candidate isn't up to doing the job.

[justanotheruser]

Might I suggest that I have ignored nothing, I and a number of other local residents have contacted Translink in respect of the Ministers statement, Translink has the responsibility to disseminate this information but either is reluctant to provide the information requested or simply is once again obfuscating on the issue in the vain hope that they will be able to do nothing and provide some justification to the Minister for having done nothing.
From the track record of late there is no justification for the existence of Translink in its present form.

just seems strange to me that they would happily give out some information and hold back other bits.  Looking at the previous changes to the bus timetables translink was slack in getting new timetables out to people which caused alot of problems in the disability sector. This time they happily mentioned two new bus runs coming back in but it is only since yesterday they have confirmed changes to the 503. Of course the new minister when announcing the changes has not allowed enough time for new timetables to be distributed so there are going to be problems for disability support workers as clients struggle to cope when the bus goes a different way or other issues. Having the changes come into effect so soon after school holidays also will cause problems as people may have gone away and the last thing you think of when planning a holiday is bus timetable changes.

[mufreight]

Might I suggest that I have ignored nothing, I and a number of other local residents have contacted Translink in respect of the Ministers statement, Translink has the responsibility to disseminate this information but either is reluctant to provide the information requested or simply is once again obfuscating on the issue in the vain hope that they will be able to do nothing and provide some justification to the Minister for having done nothing.
From the track record of late there is no justification for the existence of Translink in its present form.

just seems strange to me that they would happily give out some information and hold back other bits.  Looking at the previous changes to the bus timetables translink was slack in getting new timetables out to people which caused alot of problems in the disability sector. This time they happily mentioned two new bus runs coming back in but it is only since yesterday they have confirmed changes to the 503. Of course the new minister when announcing the changes has not allowed enough time for new timetables to be distributed so there are going to be problems for disability support workers as clients struggle to cope when the bus goes a different way or other issues. Having the changes come into effect so soon after school holidays also will cause problems as people may have gone away and the last thing you think of when planning a holiday is bus timetable changes.

Might I suggest that you have overlooked the unfortunate fact that we are dealing with a disfunctional and incompetent Translink which has an aversion to accountability and and equaly disfunctional and inept government.  The new Minister is making an effort and must be commended for that effort but the levels of support appears to be less that desireable.

[justanotheruser]

Might I suggest that I have ignored nothing, I and a number of other local residents have contacted Translink in respect of the Ministers statement, Translink has the responsibility to disseminate this information but either is reluctant to provide the information requested or simply is once again obfuscating on the issue in the vain hope that they will be able to do nothing and provide some justification to the Minister for having done nothing.
From the track record of late there is no justification for the existence of Translink in its present form.

just seems strange to me that they would happily give out some information and hold back other bits.  Looking at the previous changes to the bus timetables translink was slack in getting new timetables out to people which caused alot of problems in the disability sector. This time they happily mentioned two new bus runs coming back in but it is only since yesterday they have confirmed changes to the 503. Of course the new minister when announcing the changes has not allowed enough time for new timetables to be distributed so there are going to be problems for disability support workers as clients struggle to cope when the bus goes a different way or other issues. Having the changes come into effect so soon after school holidays also will cause problems as people may have gone away and the last thing you think of when planning a holiday is bus timetable changes.

Might I suggest that you have overlooked the unfortunate fact that we are dealing with a disfunctional and incompetent Translink which has an aversion to accountability and and equaly disfunctional and inept government.  The new Minister is making an effort and must be commended for that effort but the levels of support appears to be less that desireable.

and finally the bias comes out which shows that you aren't prepared to accept that they can do anything good. I have complained numerous times to translink and I also have had some very good experiences witht them so I am prepared to judge each situation on its merits.

[mufreight]

Might I suggest that I have ignored nothing, I and a number of other local residents have contacted Translink in respect of the Ministers statement, Translink has the responsibility to disseminate this information but either is reluctant to provide the information requested or simply is once again obfuscating on the issue in the vain hope that they will be able to do nothing and provide some justification to the Minister for having done nothing.
From the track record of late there is no justification for the existence of Translink in its present form.

just seems strange to me that they would happily give out some information and hold back other bits.  Looking at the previous changes to the bus timetables translink was slack in getting new timetables out to people which caused alot of problems in the disability sector. This time they happily mentioned two new bus runs coming back in but it is only since yesterday they have confirmed changes to the 503. Of course the new minister when announcing the changes has not allowed enough time for new timetables to be distributed so there are going to be problems for disability support workers as clients struggle to cope when the bus goes a different way or other issues. Having the changes come into effect so soon after school holidays also will cause problems as people may have gone away and the last thing you think of when planning a holiday is bus timetable changes.

Might I suggest that you have overlooked the unfortunate fact that we are dealing with a disfunctional and incompetent Translink which has an aversion to accountability and and equaly disfunctional and inept government.  The new Minister is making an effort and must be commended for that effort but the levels of support appears to be less that desireable.

and finally the bias comes out which shows that you aren't prepared to accept that they can do anything good. I have complained numerous times to translink and I also have had some very good experiences witht them so I am prepared to judge each situation on its merits.

As do I, perhaps I should as it would seem that you do, take offence as you appear to with anything that is contrary to your opinion with your statement of bias by myself in relation to the experiences not only of myself but many others relative to Translink as the entity responsible for public transport

[somebody]

and finally the bias comes out which shows that you aren't prepared to accept that they can do anything good. I have complained numerous times to translink and I also have had some very good experiences witht them so I am prepared to judge each situation on its merits.

Translink have done a lot of harm to Brisbane's PT system over the last 2-3 years.  Specifically:
Truncation of the 393
Separation of the 444 & 4xx expresses
Seperation of the 111 & 160
Seperation of the 119 & 120
Separation of the 179 & 180
Removal of the 505 & 510 - now to be reinstated
523 permanent removal
poor operating hours on the 761 - previously almost all was covered by the 765

They have also been responsible for some obscene inaction:
No change in the timetable with CAB-Beerburrum for 2 years
Richlands interim timetable fiasco
Coronation Drive closedown - unless they planned it all along and didn't communicate it
109 not using the Boggo Rd busway on opening
No counter peak Northern Busway service
Busway congestion leaving UQ Lakes and Park Rd.  They new about the Ecosciences precinct opening, but failed to do anything about it

Then they see fit to waste resources on:
66 north of QUT Kelvin Grove - wouldn't be required with counter peak route + useful 393
P88
useless 393
77 - would be far more useful into UQ Lakes than 8 mile plains
151 - superseded by the 153
374 - would be far more useful with a reasonable inbound route and serving the Bardon stop - a truly trivial extension
I'm sure there are many other examples here, but I think this is enough.

While doing the above, they then have the temerity to turn around and say that PT costs too much and so fares need to rise.  And I could go on about rail timetables etc, but these largely pre-date the formation of Translink.  Yet they haven't done anything substantive about them either, with the exception of IPS-CAB and Gold Coast.

[#Metro]

All I can say is that there is a huge amount of work to do to get the PT system working.
We are better with TL, a dedicated agency focusing solely on this task, than we are to do this without them.

[mufreight]

All I can say is that there is a huge amount of work to do to get the PT system working.
We are better with TL, a dedicated agency focusing solely on this task, than we are to do this without them.

An arguable assumption, there is a definate need for an authority to co-ordinate public transport but there is no need for an everexpanding bureaucracy to micro manage (very ineptly) public transport as a duplication of the work carried out by the operators themselves.
The Easter school bus fiasco being a fair example, Translink in its present for fails to comunicate and co-ordinate, basic precepts in the justification for its existence.

[Stillwater]

Is it public transport or Translink that has the image problem?  http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/translink-bos-admits-public-transport-has-a-bad-rap-in-southeast-queensland/story-e6freoof-1226023506289

[mufreight]

Is it public transport or Translink that has the image problem?  http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/translink-bos-admits-public-transport-has-a-bad-rap-in-southeast-queensland/story-e6freoof-1226023506289

At the present time both, the difference being that Translink is perceived by many to be the cause of the problem.
  :conf

[justanotheruser]

Is it public transport or Translink that has the image problem?  http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/translink-bos-admits-public-transport-has-a-bad-rap-in-southeast-queensland/story-e6freoof-1226023506289

public transport has an image problem. That is easy to workout. Just look at before translink existed and it was still thought of very poorly.  Translink has an image problem as well.

[mufreight]

Worth noting that out of the 163 people who have responded to the poll conducted by the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson as to what is important to you poll 79 or 48.5% of respondents have voted for public transport with only 32 respondents considering that Transport Congestion was a major issue, to check the results or add your vote go to http://www.scottemerson.com.au/ the more votes the better.  

[justanotheruser]

Worth noting that out of the 163 people who have responded to the poll conducted by the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson as to what is important to you poll 79 or 48.5% of respondents have voted for public transport with only 32 respondents considering that Transport Congestion was a major issue, to check the results or add your vote go to http://www.scottemerson.com.au/ the more votes the better.  

anothre flawed poll! Can only vote for one thing at a time but can vote every day if you like!

[mufreight]

Worth noting that out of the 163 people who have responded to the poll conducted by the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson as to what is important to you poll 79 or 48.5% of respondents have voted for public transport with only 32 respondents considering that Transport Congestion was a major issue, to check the results or add your vote go to http://www.scottemerson.com.au/ the more votes the better.  

anothre flawed poll! Can only vote for one thing at a time but can vote every day if you like!

Wrong, a correction here, a person can only lodge one vote per web address no matter how many times or days you try.
As for only voting for one thing that is the normal method in such polls and logicaly those responding will vote for the issue of greatest impact to them, there being a number of fields to chose from.

[BrizCommuter]

Worth noting that out of the 163 people who have responded to the poll conducted by the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson as to what is important to you poll 79 or 48.5% of respondents have voted for public transport with only 32 respondents considering that Transport Congestion was a major issue, to check the results or add your vote go to http://www.scottemerson.com.au/ the more votes the better.  

anothre flawed poll! Can only vote for one thing at a time but can vote every day if you like!

Wrong, a correction here, a person can only lodge one vote per web address no matter how many times or days you try.
As for only voting for one thing that is the normal method in such polls and logicaly those responding will vote for the issue of greatest impact to them, there being a number of fields to chose from.

Resetting internet connection (assuming dynamically assigned IP address), and clearing cookies is the key to multiple voting!

[justanotheruser]

Worth noting that out of the 163 people who have responded to the poll conducted by the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson as to what is important to you poll 79 or 48.5% of respondents have voted for public transport with only 32 respondents considering that Transport Congestion was a major issue, to check the results or add your vote go to http://www.scottemerson.com.au/ the more votes the better.  

anothre flawed poll! Can only vote for one thing at a time but can vote every day if you like!

Wrong, a correction here, a person can only lodge one vote per web address no matter how many times or days you try.
As for only voting for one thing that is the normal method in such polls and logicaly those responding will vote for the issue of greatest impact to them, there being a number of fields to chose from.

If I'm wrong why has it allowed me to vote three times from the same computer?

Yes I understand the idea of voting for one thing only. However I have received these polls in the past in paper format and the instructions were to mark all that concerned you. So why simply because it is done online should you only be able to vote for one. Surely it would be better to limit it to voting once per IP address and allowing multiple votes so all in the household get a say.

Resetting internet connection (assuming dynamically assigned IP address), and clearing cookies is the key to multiple voting!

I did none of this yet voted three times.

[mufreight]

Worth noting that out of the 163 people who have responded to the poll conducted by the LNP Transport spokesperson Mr Scott Emerson as to what is important to you poll 79 or 48.5% of respondents have voted for public transport with only 32 respondents considering that Transport Congestion was a major issue, to check the results or add your vote go to http://www.scottemerson.com.au/ the more votes the better.  

anothre flawed poll! Can only vote for one thing at a time but can vote every day if you like!

Wrong, a correction here, a person can only lodge one vote per web address no matter how many times or days you try.
As for only voting for one thing that is the normal method in such polls and logicaly those responding will vote for the issue of greatest impact to them, there being a number of fields to chose from.

If I'm wrong why has it allowed me to vote three times from the same computer?

Yes I understand the idea of voting for one thing only. However I have received these polls in the past in paper format and the instructions were to mark all that concerned you. So why simply because it is done online should you only be able to vote for one. Surely it would be better to limit it to voting once per IP address and allowing multiple votes so all in the household get a say.

Resetting internet connection (assuming dynamically assigned IP address), and clearing cookies is the key to multiple voting!

I did none of this yet voted three times.

Well you must be doing something different to me because it locked me out and  gave a you have already voted message just above the poll list.

[somebody]

Does Scott Emerson read RailBoT releases?

[mufreight]

If he didnt before he definately does now.