2011 Timetable changes

[Gazza]

Ah well, still reckon we should wait to see how much worse the new 104 timetable is before sticking it to them.

[somebody]

Actually, I would think now would be a good time.  Pushing it now wouldn't require them to back down later.

[Golliwog]

About to play 'spot the horseless carriage on the Go between bridge'

The Translink staff member at the FG station consultation I went to said she plays the same game on her way to work from the southside

[Stillwater]

Today heard talk of a 'protest convoy' of cars travelling at slow speed down the Bruce Highway in morning peak to highlight the inadequacy of the revised timetable for the Sunshine Coast Line.  Should be interesting if it comes off.

[ozbob]

Note some additional information sessions:

http://www.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/queensland-rail-timetable-changes

Thursday 2 December    5pm to 7pm    Sherwood-Indooroopilly RSL, 2 Clewley Street, Corinda

Saturday 4 December    10am to 12pm    Nambour Community Centre, Cnr of Shearer and James Streets, Nambour

Saturday 4 December    10am to 12pm    Strathpine library, Cnr Gympie and South Pine Roads, Strathpine

Wednesday 8 December  5pm to 7pm    Narangba Library, Narangba Village Shopping Centre, Main Street, Narangba

[Fares_Fair]

It may not be much of a protest ... as that's how it is already !
Finding the protest in the gridlock would be hard.  

I certainly share their frustration and concern.

Regards,
Fares_Fair.

[ozbob]

Extra 'timetable information' session now for Rosewood ...

Wednesday 15 December    5pm to 7pm    Rosewood RSL, 1 Mill Street, Rosewood

http://www.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/queensland-rail-timetable-changes

[Derwan]

They now have the draft Shorncliffe Timetable online.  As expected, very little difference apart from services terminating at Roma St instead of Corinda.

What HAS changed though is that 38-minute gap during the afternoon peak.  It has been reduced to 32 minutes.  Unfortunately another 38-minute gap has been introduced between 6:45 and 7:23pm (dep Central).

Bring on round 2 when we might actually see services increased!!

[Arnz]

I noticed all evening services now extend/originate from Cleveland now. 

Could be a hint that Shorncliffe may be paired with Cleveland in the future? 

[somebody]

What's with the inconsistency of the South Bank connection on weekends?

[Derwan]

I noticed all evening services now extend/originate from Cleveland now.

Could be a hint that Shorncliffe may be paired with Cleveland in the future? 

The strange thing is that evening inbound services terminate at Cleveland, but outbound services originate from Roma St! 

In the longer term, the Reference Design for CRR has Shorncliffe and the Airport line paired with Ipswich/Springfield on the Mains.  Cleveland and Kuraby are paired with Ferny Grove and Doomben on Suburbans.  Caboolture, Kippa Ring and North Coast are paired with Beenleigh and Gold Coast using CRR.

Of course, we don't know what they'll decide for stage 2 of the 2011 timetable updates.

IMO, there won't be a stage 2 of 2011.  There will be a 2011 and a 2012 timetable change.

What's with the inconsistency of the South Bank connection on weekends?

Good question.  Currently, weekday services terminate at Corinda and weekends at South Bank.  With the new timetable, why not run weekday services the same as the weekend and terminate at South Bank?  Makes sense to me.  I guess they don't want to make such a big change when it's only temporary.

[BrizCommuter]

Check out the platform numbers on the draft Shorncliffe timetable 

[somebody]

Check out the platform numbers on the draft Shorncliffe timetable 

I spotted that too.  Some trains terminating on Roma St #2, others on #3 & #6!?

Also, no more trains to the mains.

[Derwan]

Check out the platform numbers on the draft Shorncliffe timetable 

Glad you pointed that out!  I would've turned up at the wrong platform!

Makes sense though.  Reduces the conflicts at Northgate or Bowen Hills.

[BrizCommuter]

A quick review.
http://brizcommuter.blogspot.com/2010/12/shorncliffe-draft-2011-timetable.html

[Derwan]

A quick review.

All peak Shorncliffe services are now running on the suburbans, with some of these services slotted in only 2 minutes from existing services. Shorncliffe Line users will better have to get used to the view whilst waiting outside of Bowen Hills for a green signal in the am peak!

A number of the morning peak services already use the Suburbans.  I am very accustomed to the view near Bowen Hills.  I watch the cars go under the ICB and am amused at how the automatic headlights switch on and then off again within a few seconds.  (Yes - we must find something to amuse us while we wait!)

[somebody]

FWIW, only two of the inbound services use the suburbans, and those are the express ones.  If they run to the timetable.  4 outbound (2 AM, 2 PM) services currently use the suburbans.  Interestingly, the PM ones on the suburbans are the Redbank starters.  I guess that makes some sense.

[mufreight]

Good question.  Currently, weekday services terminate at Corinda and weekends at South Bank.  With the new timetable, why not run weekday services the same as the weekend and terminate at South Bank?  Makes sense to me.  I guess they don't want to make such a big change when it's only temporary.

There are no facilities for a turnback at Southbank unless the dual gauge line is used, is that what is proposed/done at present?

[somebody]

There are no facilities for a turnback at Southbank unless the dual gauge line is used, is that what is proposed/done at present?

I would presume that is the way it is done.

[BrizCommuter]

There are no facilities for a turnback at Southbank unless the dual gauge line is used, is that what is proposed/done at present?

I would presume that is the way it is done.

Trains are reversed in platform 3, which is the dual gauge.

[ozbob]

I am a little concerned with the failure to indicate what is happening with Richlands.  As I understand it an interim timetable is to be implemented sometime in January.  The consultation for the new timetables seems to be bogging down.  It has been clear for some time that Richlands would be finished end of this year and it is disappointing that the changes proper are not being implemented from day one of Richlands.  Major changes during a school term / university semester will cause flow on problems for bus.  I think it is looking like we might be yet subjected to more delays and bluster and probably a ramshackle timetable for Richlands with nothing changed at all to possibly mid 2011 if we are lucky?

In the absence of any public information to the contrary it is a little concerning to say the least ... 

[ozbob]

Regular rail services are to commence on 24th January 2011 Richlands.

[somebody]

Regular rail services are to commence on 24th January 2011 Richlands.

So, is it to be an extension of the Corinda trains when they run and a shuttle at other times?

[ozbob]

Don't know, the 'interim timetable' has not been made available as yet.  I suspect it will involve some shuttles.

What a failure not to roll out the proper timetable at opening, no excuse they have had years.  Unsatisfactory absolutely IMHO.

[somebody]

What a failure not to roll out the proper timetable at opening, no excuse they have had years.  Unsatisfactory absolutely IMHO.

Yes.  Apparently the ESR and ECRL (Eastern Suburbs Railway & Epping-Chatswood Rail link) opened with shuttles, but those are really quite different kinds of rail lines, with substantial flow on effects if something went wrong.  Richlands isn't like that, and the East Hills-Glenfield link was fully integrated on opening.  Similarly with the Granville Y-Link (aka Cumberland line).

Not sure what the story on the Melbourne city loop (any others?) is.

[O_128]

Don't know, the 'interim timetable' has not been made available as yet.  I suspect it will involve some shuttles.

What a failure not to roll out the proper timetable at opening, no excuse they have had years.  Unsatisfactory absolutely IMHO.

I agree they have had at least 2 years, what are all the people at translink doing??

[Fares_Fair]

Hello O_128,

You could ask them ...
Please feel free to comment in my 30 day TRANSLink poll found here :
http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5037.0

Regards,
Fares_Fair.

[ozbob]

From The Satellite 15th December 2010 page 3

Train timetable enhancement