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POLL: Which is more important to you on the train network in general?

Started by #Metro, November 08, 2010, 23:36:14 PM

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What is more important to you?

More peak hour services (am and pm peaks)
3 (16.7%)
More evening services (6pm-10pm)
3 (16.7%)
More off-peak midday (post 9am-3pm)
8 (44.4%)
More night services (10pm-2am next day)
0 (0%)
More nightlink trains
0 (0%)
Something else- specify below
4 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: November 13, 2010, 23:36:14 PM

#Metro

5 day poll,
Which is more important to you
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#Metro

Sorry! Forgot Weekend Services  :o
If you want to vote for weekend services only- select "something else-please specify below" and then post something so you can be counted.

Sorry about this!
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Arnz

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Cam

Express services to outer suburbs all day, every day. In particular, frequent express services during extended peak periods. i.e. arriving Central 6-10am & departing Central 3-7pm.

ozbob

Improved frequency and patterns, all lines, around the clock 7 days a week ...
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#Metro

QuoteImproved frequency and patterns, all lines, around the clock 7 days a week ...

IMHO it might be staged in. There are also many night gaps to fill. Just wanted to find out which is more important?

QuoteExpress services to outer suburbs all day, every day. In particular, frequent express services during extended peak periods. i.e. arriving Central 6-10am & departing Central 3-7pm.

This sounds like all day UrbanLink to me :-)

What's happening re: rail timetables? Is there a review on?
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ozbob

The Government and QR have previously indicated that there will be some timetable consultation in November.

I am waiting for an announcement of that, we are into November.
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Cam

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This sounds like all day UrbanLink to me :-)


UrbanLink & ExpressLink on the Ipswich & Caboolture lines in 2011 - not 2031.  :pr

#Metro

I'd like to ask a bit more about why people want to travel in the interpeak (after am peak but before pm peak)... It seems like a very popular choice, but  what are people wanting to do during that time? Aren't people at work then?
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colinw

I'm a "Something else".

Specifically, I want a frequent & consistent service pattern for the entire offpeak regardless of whether it is early morning, midday or evening.  Some tail off & ramp up is acceptable I guess.

I cannot detect a pattern to my offpeak usage.  Sometimes it is middle of day, sometimes it is weekend, sometimes it is at night, so no one period would satisfy me.  If Airtrain ran suitable hours I'd use early & late offpeak more often as well (e.g. I have a late evening flight on Sunday - no chance of using airtrain).

Knowing I could rock up at most stations & have a train within 15 minutes* would.

Nothing gets up my nose more than waiting 29 minutes for a train at Park Road station not long after 6PM.

* = half an hour for offpeak Gold Coast or Rosewood would be satisfactory to me.

mufreight

Not everyone works, pensioners for instance and even all workers do not work to the same hours, many plants that operate 24 hour rotating shifts have shifts of 6-2, 2-10 and 10-6 none of these workers would use peak hour services.
Encouraging a spread of start and finish times with better PT frequencies in the off peaks reduces the peak loadings but these workers are more time conscious and 30 minute frequencies do not encourage their use of PT either Bus or Rail.

colinw

While I'm not a shift worker, my employer is not hung up on exact hours of attendance.  If I do my hours they don't care if it is 7AM to 3:30PM or 11AM to 7:30PM. Sometimes my travel to / from work does fall into the offpeak period.

I believe this is becoming increasingly common.

Another common pattern is early to early, e.g. I have a brother-in-law who works 6AM to 2:30PM a lot of the time.

somebody

full time off peak turn up and go service.

After that I would say a lean timetable and then a rational peak service (i.e. no more of 13 express trains to 11 or 12 different patterns), then ExpressLink or similar.

Interpeak is also useful for students, as well as shiftworkers as mentioned by mufreight.

Quote from: colinw on November 09, 2010, 15:08:40 PM
Another common pattern is early to early, e.g. I have a brother-in-law who works 6AM to 2:30PM a lot of the time.
I know a couple of people who do this.  Where I work is soon moving to somewhere with no parking, and I know one person who is unhappy to not be able to get to work as early as what they are used to as it would be before the first service.

Cam

Quote from: tramtrain on November 09, 2010, 14:33:12 PM
I'd like to ask a bit more about why people want to travel in the interpeak (after am peak but before pm peak)... It seems like a very popular choice, but  what are people wanting to do during that time? Aren't people at work then?

When I used to buy weekly paper tickets, I occasionally caught a train to Central from Roma Street Station & back during my lunch break to save about 5 minutes each way compared to walking. I know it's not far but the 10 minutes saved catching the train allowed me to eat lunch at Anzac Square within a 40 minute lunch break.

It is certainly not a turn up & go service at that time of day though. I had to time my lunch break so that I didn't require a return service during one of the 13 minute gaps between services that occurs twice an hour. That's a 13 minute gap between services when 4 lines run through these stations.

Derwan

I voted for the middle of the day off-peak - but this should include services from 6am and until 7pm.

Even if we don't get increased off-peak frequencies, the peak period should be extended to include additional services from 6am to 9am in the morning and from 3pm to 7pm in the afternoon/evening.

Quote from: tramtrain on November 09, 2010, 14:33:12 PM
I'd like to ask a bit more about why people want to travel in the interpeak (after am peak but before pm peak)... It seems like a very popular choice, but  what are people wanting to do during that time? Aren't people at work then?

Shift workers for one.  6am to 2pm and 2pm to 10pm are common shifts.  Someone has to be at all those coffee shops early enough for the morning rush - and they leave by early afternoon.  Add uni students and casual/part-time workers.

Also - as we've always said, if the frequency is there, people will use it.  If there was decent frequency earlier than the current peaks (preferably coupled with an off-peak discount for arrivals before 7am), I'd seriously consider working 7 to 3 instead of 8 to 4.
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