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Off peak bus frequency

Started by #Metro, November 14, 2010, 21:42:01 PM

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#Metro

Had a evening out tonight- getting a bus around the place is just absurd if you have to go off the BUZ network.
So mad. Another 30 minutes wasted with terrible services.

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somebody

Lucky you had any service at all off the BUZ network.

#Metro

Time to ramp up frequency on inner suburban routes.
World class infrastructure, sure, but the frequency is still bad.
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WTN

I boarded an outbound 180 on Saturday morning and it was run by a bendy bus. Whilst I was on it (Greenslopes-Mansfield), only a maximum of about 12 people were on board. A waste of capacity and frequency (every 30 minutes).

My afternoon trip to Garden City was run by a regular bus and was busier (nearing half full) but there's clearly room for improvement. Not just frequency, but the limited stop pattern was less useful.

But like "somebody" said, a service every 30 minutes was better than hourly or none at all.
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#Metro

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My afternoon trip to Garden City was run by a regular bus and was busier (nearing half full) but there's clearly room for improvement. Not just frequency, but the limited stop pattern was less useful.

Really? But it was faster?
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somebody

Outbound on Saturday morning?  What do you expect?

It isn't practical to think that bendy buses can be put only on runs which are packed.  Often the inbound run would be much busier than the outbound, or vice versa.  All accounts are the 180 is very busy, and has scored highly in BUZification polls.

#Metro

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QuoteOutbound on Saturday morning?  What do you expect?
Um, WORLD-CLASS public transport. That's what I expect.  :-t

Have a look at where Vermont South Tram stop is ---->http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Melbourne_trams_map.gif
It is so far out of the city.

1st service outbound on a Saturday morning from the city: 5:58 am in the morning
Services every 20 minutes after that, rising to every 12 minutes outbound.

Compared to what other cities have, it is not a big expectation.
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somebody

What I mean is one would expect not many people on the bus while heading outbound on a Saturday morning.

WTN

Quote from: tramtrain on November 15, 2010, 21:15:13 PM
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My afternoon trip to Garden City was run by a regular bus and was busier (nearing half full) but there's clearly room for improvement. Not just frequency, but the limited stop pattern was less useful.

Really? But it was faster?

My point was, it is better to run a regular bus every 15 minutes than a bendy every 30 minutes, especially when demand is low, although it isn't always practical. I doubt bendies are slower.

The large stop spacing (and the number of stops skipped) in suburban Mansfield streets also left me wondering why. I can understand the larger spacing on major roads, but an extra stop in a street full of houses?
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somebody

Quote from: WTN on November 15, 2010, 21:49:21 PM
My point was, it is better to run a regular bus every 15 minutes than a bendy every 30 minutes,
On that point, I can easily agree.

Bendies are likely to have poorer acceleration and longer dwell times, so might be slower, although not very much is in it.

#Metro

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Bendies are likely to have poorer acceleration and longer dwell times, so might be slower, although not very much is in it.

Really? I never notices that they were a bit slower. Dwell times are probably similar though if they are empty.
The bendies make funny "choof" and sneeze "PAherr" sounds sometimes. I always wonder what that is!

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somebody

One thing I have noticed is that Brisbane's bus services are driven rather slowly and unassertively.  In Sydney you get a lot of variation, but you can usually tell the difference between a CNG and diesel bus based on its acceleration. And they push car drivers out of the way much more.

O_128

Quote from: somebody on November 16, 2010, 19:42:50 PM
One thing I have noticed is that Brisbane's bus services are driven rather slowly and unassertively.  In Sydney you get a lot of variation, but you can usually tell the difference between a CNG and diesel bus based on its acceleration. And they push car drivers out of the way much more.

I had an infuriating driver today who was going about 40 down coro drive in almost zero traffic, i could have walked faster
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Quote from: O_128 on November 16, 2010, 22:12:56 PM
I had an infuriating driver today who was going about 40 down coro drive in almost zero traffic, i could have walked faster
Running to timetable or stretching the trip out for overtime?
Cardinal rule for public transport, do everything possible to run to time but never run early, timetables are for commuters.

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