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New timetable - Ipswich and Rosewood lines

Started by ozbob, January 21, 2010, 13:42:30 PM

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Set in train

Quote from: Golliwog on December 07, 2011, 15:14:10 PM
http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1323054368
Minor changes to train services from 12 December

From Monday 12 December, there will be minor changes to some train services on the Rosewood, Ipswich, and Gympie North lines:

    5.05am Rosewood to Ipswich train will depart Rosewood station three minutes earlier at 5.02 am (arriving at Ipswich at 5.23am), to provide a better connection to the 5.28am Ipswich to City train
    5.56am Gympie North to Roma Street train will depart Fortitude Valley station five minutes earlier at 8.37am, to provide better connections at Central and Roma Street stations

So, that's no more through trains from Rosewood to central, simply a time penalty of 3 minutes, 11.75 hours a year wasted.

As for the Gympie train to Central, removing the silly wait time that was there, won't help commuters who need to be in town earlier.

Arnz

Quote from: Set in train on December 09, 2011, 18:51:23 PM
Quote from: Golliwog on December 07, 2011, 15:14:10 PM
http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1323054368
Minor changes to train services from 12 December

From Monday 12 December, there will be minor changes to some train services on the Rosewood, Ipswich, and Gympie North lines:

   5.05am Rosewood to Ipswich train will depart Rosewood station three minutes earlier at 5.02 am (arriving at Ipswich at 5.23am), to provide a better connection to the 5.28am Ipswich to City train
   5.56am Gympie North to Roma Street train will depart Fortitude Valley station five minutes earlier at 8.37am, to provide better connections at Central and Roma Street stations

So, that's no more through trains from Rosewood to central, simply a time penalty of 3 minutes, 11.75 hours a year wasted.

As for the Gympie train to Central, removing the silly wait time that was there, won't help commuters who need to be in town earlier.

1. ?  I believe that was originally scheduled a shuttle.  It's only being put back 3 minutes to give City commuters a bit more breathing space to change trains.

2.  The train before the Gympie North service (Service #T5V6 - Nambour to Ipswich running express from Caboolture to Northgate) leaves 18 mins earlier from Nambour at 6:40am and arrives Central at 8:28am.  There's the option of the earlier trains.
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Arnz

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somebody

Quote from: Set in train on December 09, 2011, 18:51:23 PM
So, that's no more through trains from Rosewood to central, simply a time penalty of 3 minutes, 11.75 hours a year wasted.
Must agree.  It could easily be a through train.

Golliwog

http://translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/bulletin/1329803158
Removal of Saturday 1.37am Ipswich-City train

Effective Saturday 3 March 2012, the all stations Bowen Hills train service departing Ipswich at 1.37am on Saturday mornings will be removed from the timetable due to low patronage.

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petey3801

None too soon really... The times I have worked that service, there were more staff than passengers (2-traincrew, 2 security guards) on the train (in total, that is!).
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Arnz

IMO The unit could've been better utilized on extra NightLink services from the City to Ipswich/Caboolture on early Sat/Sunday mornings tbh, leaving after 2am (after empty running in from Ipswich).
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Arnz

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Cam

Perhaps it will be stabled at Redbank instead of Mayne.

somebody

Doesn't this mean yet another empty positioning movement?

Jonas Jade

Sounds like it was an empty positioning movement anyway  :-r

petey3801

It really is a pity there isn't an early bird first service (as there is on the Caboolture line, arr Bowen Hills 0452) on the Ipswich line (for that matter, an earlier start to services on the Richlands line too!).

I've got a flight to catch tomorrow morning, departing Brisbane International at 0745, yet I can't get to the Internation Airport until 0618 by train, which is leaving things a little short on time for a flight out of the International terminal. First train to the Airport is off Roma Street at 0453, yet from the Ipswich line, the first train I can catch to the airport is the third train of the day off Roma Street at 0553. I really do want to get the train tomorrow morning (really have no want to drive/be driven to the airport), but if something happens and the 0553 Airport train ex Roma Street is cancelled for whatever reason, the next train doesn't arrive at the Airport until 0648, by which time check-in has closed and i'll have missed my flight..  :conf
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somebody

Indeed.  Couldn't this train have been stabled and filled in service on Sunday morning.  Or is there no more stabling available at Ipswich, needing the MT to happen on Saturday?

petey3801

Well i ended up catching the train arriving at BIT at 0618, mainly due to the fact my plane is running around 1.5hrs late so I wasnt in much of a rush to arrive! All went to plan though and the train arrived on time at the airport.
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skippy

Caught the express in from Darra yesterday, departing on time at 7.33 and arrived at Indooroopilly two mins early. After a full two mins wait at the platform, departed on schedule and crawled through Taringa cutting. Arrived a few minutes late into Milton, together with the (on-time) all stations train. The train controller then held the express at Milton, letting the all stations crossover to the mains causing the express to be 6 minutes late into Roma St. The next 3 trains from Milton were subsequently delayed.

The key to reliability on the Ipy line is to depart Milton on time due to the need for the express and all station trains to merge. The 10 mins allowance in the express timetable between Darra to Indro is too generous (by a couple of minutes) yet the 5 minutes from Indro to Milton has no margin.  Simply advancing the Indro express departure times by 1 or 2 minutes would improve the on-time running into Milton and therefore improve the realibility of the whole line.

somebody

Or they could increase margin Indro-Milton by fixing that problem at Taringa!

ozbob

Quote from: Simon on March 29, 2012, 09:14:05 AM
Or they could increase margin Indro-Milton by fixing that problem at Taringa!

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petey3801

Quote from: Simon on March 29, 2012, 09:14:05 AM
Or they could increase margin Indro-Milton by fixing that problem at Taringa!

I've actually seen in one of the closure documents that the rock wall at Taringa will be getting some attention at certain times over the next few months, so fingers crossed!!
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skippy

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Quote from: petey3801 on March 29, 2012, 11:03:24 AM
Quote from: Simon on March 29, 2012, 09:14:05 AM
Or they could increase margin Indro-Milton by fixing that problem at Taringa!

I've actually seen in one of the closure documents that the rock wall at Taringa will be getting some attention at certain times over the next few months, so fingers crossed!!

Agree the issue at Taringa needs to be fixed. My point is on-time departure from Milton is critical to the reliability of the system in the morning peak, departing Indooroopilly on-time is not. Tweaking the timetabled departure at one station seems a cheap and logical way to improve the system reliability even after the Taringa issue is fixed.

somebody

Quote from: skippy on March 29, 2012, 13:31:34 PM
Quote from: petey3801 on March 29, 2012, 11:03:24 AM
Quote from: Simon on March 29, 2012, 09:14:05 AM
Or they could increase margin Indro-Milton by fixing that problem at Taringa!

I've actually seen in one of the closure documents that the rock wall at Taringa will be getting some attention at certain times over the next few months, so fingers crossed!!

Agree the issue at Taringa needs to be fixed. My point is on-time departure from Milton is critical to the reliability of the system in the morning peak, departing Indooroopilly on-time is not. Tweaking the timetabled departure at one station seems a cheap and logical was to improve the system reliability even after the Taringa issue is fixed.
I'd rather they tightened the timetable, which is far too slack Ipswich-Indro.

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