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Pre-election budget - 2014/15 Queensland

Started by ozbob, May 24, 2014, 03:48:06 AM

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James

Quote from: STB on June 06, 2014, 04:30:32 AMJust to chip in here, my mind boggles when people choose to live 50km+ away from their workplace.  They say they do it for the lifestyle, well how the heck are you supposed to enjoy the lifestyle when you are travelling up to 3-4hrs or more everyday?

Common sense please.  If you want to work in Brisbane, live within the Brisbane surrounds, if you want to work on the Gold Coast, live on the Gold Coast, if you want to work on the Sunshine Coast, live on the Sunshine Coast.

My personal rule, don't live beyond 20kms from where you work.

Lifestyle!

Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

red dragin

STB,

The location of the job, it's pay rate and then the (poor) affordability of housing restricts people.

My case:
Former resident manager lived in Kelvin Grove. Quit to give my family a house and decent yard - children don't belong in apartments.

Best salary we (wife and I ran the place together) can now attract is about $50k each. Wife's skills are admin so she now works in Stafford. My skills put me in CBD or urban.

Have one child, one or two more to come in next few years.

Best we can afford allowing for eventual interest rate increases is about a $400k house.

This restricts us to Pine River -> north. Currently living with my parents at Morayfield until we get the rest of a deposit (and me a job).

Her minimum commute once we buy is 25 kilometres. I may end up in the CBD making mine 35km each way.

Whilst it's not your 50km limit it does show why some people have large commutes. A few minutes up the road and I hit the 50km mark.

Derwan

Quote from: hongsetoufaren on June 07, 2014, 02:10:54 AM
^^ this. Not everyone can afford to live within 20km of Brisbane.

I think STB's "limit" is a bit ambitious.  My "limit" would be a lot more generous - around 50km.  However I don't think there should be set "limits". The "limits" are gradual - and depend more on individual circumstances and what realistic and genuine reasons there are for living closer to or further from the city.  Housing affordability is a genuine reason for living slightly further out.

HOWEVER, the further out we go, the more we should expect and accept a less frequent and less reliable public transport system - and the more we should expect to have to pay if we're travelling all the way to the city.  This is the trade-off.

There comes a point when it becomes unreasonable to expect the government and those living closer to the city to subsidise a suburban-style public transport for people living further out when they could reasonably and affordably live closer to work - but choose not to because of "lifestyle" or other less legitimate reasons.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't choose to live further out for the lifestyle.  I'm simply saying that they shouldn't be expecting a suburban-style public transport system and should be willing to pay an appropriate fare for the privilege.
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