Brisbane Entertainment Centre event services

[somebody]

Since I hadn't put the boot in to Translink today, I thought I'd check out what they're doing for up coming BEC events.

This link is for the Andre Rieu night: http://www.translink.com.au/event.php?id=88

The point here is that at the bottom, it says "Check this page to see if there is any trackwork".  This is unacceptable.  Translink should already have done such a check and not pass the onus on to their customers.

Also, it is not completely accurate: it states that there are no connections, but there are to Caboolture, and the first of the extra trains allows connections to Ipswich and probably Beenleigh.

The citytrain.com.au website gets it right.  Maybe they should just link to that PDF?


Another example is the Marilyn Manson night, on a Saturday; link: http://www.citytrain.com.au/Images/20091017_MarilynMansonConcert_tcm17-28239.pdf

This shows no extra inbound services after the end of the concert on a Saturday night.  This is also unacceptable.  Also, it wrongly states that the last service has no connections to Caboolture & the second last service has no connections to Robina.

Even if they don't know the ending time, they can park service(s) at Sandgate & Shornecliffe and run it empty to Boondall when required.

[O_128]

I still think we should build a more centralised entertainment centre maybe at bowen hills or the RNA

[#Metro]

RNA would be a very good choice. Boondall is whoop-whoop.

[Derwan]

Another example is the Marilyn Manson night, on a Saturday... shows no extra inbound services after the end of the concert...

That's because it wouldn't be required.

_{(There's a joke in there.)}

Boondall is whoop-whoop.

Hey I live at Boondall!  It seems like whoop-whoop but is a very handy place to live. 25 minutes to the city on the train.  Highway at your doorstep to head north or south.  You're right though, not the ideal location for major concerts.

[somebody]

Another example is the Marilyn Manson night, on a Saturday... shows no extra inbound services after the end of the concert...

That's because it wouldn't be required.

My point was that concerts on a Friday or Saturday have the opportunity to connect with the later last trains, so an opportunity to get a few more people on to public transport is being missed.  Also, private transport is awful out of BEC.

[stephenk]

Given that you can celebrate multiple birthdays trying to get out of the BEC's carpark, it would be great if public transport was made more attractive. Unfortunately many concerts finish too late for people to stay to the end of the concert and get home. The concerts should finish earlier enough for people to be able to get home on all major lines. It ain't rocket science - Riverstage manages to finish early enough and on time due to a noise curfew.

[#Metro]

(There's a joke in there.)

Could it be that ... nobody wants to see Marylin Manson?

Ok. Not everyone wants to catch a bus (do they provide buses?) or a train.
Perhaps they could include flat fare taxis or a space for taxis to go there as well.

[somebody]

Given that you can celebrate multiple birthdays trying to get out of the BEC's carpark, it would be great if public transport was made more attractive. Unfortunately many concerts finish too late for people to stay to the end of the concert and get home. The concerts should finish earlier enough for people to be able to get home on all major lines. It ain't rocket science - Riverstage manages to finish early enough and on time due to a noise curfew.

Does this point still apply for concerts on Friday and Saturday night when public transport runs later?

[stephenk]

Given that you can celebrate multiple birthdays trying to get out of the BEC's carpark, it would be great if public transport was made more attractive. Unfortunately many concerts finish too late for people to stay to the end of the concert and get home. The concerts should finish earlier enough for people to be able to get home on all major lines. It ain't rocket science - Riverstage manages to finish early enough and on time due to a noise curfew.

Does this point still apply for concerts on Friday and Saturday night when public transport runs later?

Probably not, but it certainly applies during the week when many BEC concerts are held.

[ozbob]

Media release 11 July 2012

SEQ: Extra Shorncliffe rail services welcomed!

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has welcomed the introduction of half hourly service on the Shorncliffe line after 10pm Monday to Thursday (1).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"TransLink have announced four evening extra services on the Shorncliffe line for Mondays through Thursdays (1).  The Minister added that this is designed to help out concert goers at Boondall (2).  RAIL Back On Track applauds both the change and the reasoning.  It is sure to help reduce traffic congestion at Boondall, and making the service full time means people who aren't attending a Boondall concert can use it.  It is also cheaper on a per service basis to add a full time service rather than specials."

"The next thing is on event nights there should be guaranteed connections to the other main lines, particularly Ferny Grove which is only allowed a 2 minute interchange (1, 3) from the 11:14pm ex-Boondall train to the last Ferny Grove line train."

"Upgrading hourly frequency from any line to half hourly is an improvement and commuters are no doubt grateful. Improved event services at Boondall is excellent move."

References:

1. http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1341795903

2. http://translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/520

3. http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/network-information/timetables/120410-ferny-grove-line.pdf

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[ozbob]

http://translink.com.au/about-translink/reporting-and-publications/media-releases/release/520

Extra late night trains for concert fans

Monday 9 July 2012

Concert goers will no longer need to worry about missing the encore to catch the last train back from the Boondall Entertainment Centre.

Minister for Transport and Main Roads Scott Emerson said four new train services on the Shorncliffe line at night would take the worry out of attending special events at Boondall.

"These new services will provide capacity for at least 700 more people per night to catch the train home after big events at the entertainment centre," Mr Emerson said.

"We all know how congested Sandgate Road and the Gateway Motorway can get when big events are on, so this is another step to encourage people to leave the car at home and take public transport instead."

Member for Nudgee Jason Woodforth said the two new inbound train services would depart Boondall station at 11.14pm and 12.14am.

"Previously the final inbound service was at 11.44pm which caused some fans to miss out on the end of some concerts.

"These two new trains will run from Monday to Thursday, extending the half-hour train frequency on this line.

"Trains already run to these times on the weekend (Friday and Saturday nights), when late night train patronage is traditionally higher."

Member for Sandgate Kerry Millard said passengers heading outbound to North Boondall, Sandgate and Shorncliffe stations will also benefit from the upgrades.

"There will be two new outbound trains from Roma Street departing Boondall station at 10.48pm and 11.48pm, as well as the regular timetable trains at 11.18pm and 12.18am.," Ms Millard said.

"Minor adjustments of a few minutes are also being made to outbound afternoon peak trains to provide better timetable efficiency."

[achiruel]

That's great, but what do they do after reaching the City?

[ozbob]

There needs to be a compromise.  The organisers at BEC just need to start things a bit earlier.  Can't expect trains to be running all night.

[HappyTrainGuy]

That's great, but what do they do after reaching the City?

Logically they would continue onto Cleveland or retire to stabling at Mayne depending on the city depart times/expected loadings.

[somebody]

There needs to be a compromise.  The organisers at BEC just need to start things a bit earlier.  Can't expect trains to be running all night.

There isn't much incentive for them to do so.  Increased PT use means reduced parking revenue to them.

[BrizCommuter]

http://brizcommuter.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/new-late-night-shorncliffe-trains.html
Now please fill the rest of the late night gaps!

[ozbob]

From the Brisbane mX 11th July 2012 page 5

Late-night trains for gig-goers

[achiruel]

That's great, but what do they do after reaching the City?

Logically they would continue onto Cleveland or retire to stabling at Mayne depending on the city depart times/expected loadings.

I was more meaning the passengers than the trainsets.  On weeknights every other line would have departed by the time the last train reached Central

[p858snake]

M-Thursday... Couldn't stretch to friday as well? When (without any knowledge in the area) most people would probably be planning to go out to these these?

[somebody]

M-Thursday... Couldn't stretch to friday as well? When (without any knowledge in the area) most people would probably be planning to go out to these these?

These trains already exist on Fridays.

[ozbob]

A letter to the editor Couriemail 29th April 2013 page 20

Translink must improve

[techblitz]

There needs to be a compromise.  The organisers at BEC just need to start things a bit earlier.  Can't expect trains to be running all night.

Start them earlier...best idea ever

Uhm people who finish work are supposed to go straight to the concert in thier work clothes because BEC decides to start the concerts earlier? Dont think so...
They need time to actually go home change and head back out to boondall.
The problem is translink.....how hard is it to keep an eye on upcoming concerts at boondall and then roster the trains to a normal timetable on certain public holidays....this mob is truly hopeless.Do they even have any idea of basic customer service?
Granted with this being a public holiday the conert could have been started earlier but still...thousands of people running into central with no public transport access is an absolute didaster!

[ozbob]

Indeed they have started them earlier, they now all finish at 11pm.  ANZAC Day was a bit of failure though I agree ...

The problem is they often run over and this can cause problems. Infact BEC say so when you book. BEC are not interested in being a PT partner as for other major venues, car parking revenue is probably more important.  So the average PT user needs to be aware of the timings ...

These rants about being marooned in the CBD have been going on for years.  No one really seems to care any more, BEC, TransLink or Government ... 

[PollyWouldLikeASeat]

I was  one of the thousands at Black Sabbath on Thursday night, the concert was over by 10.15, was just about at the train station when the 10.20ish train to the  city came in and left straight away.  25 minute wait for next train, they stopped letting people on this train because it was packed solid.

[somebody]

There needs to be a compromise.  The organisers at BEC just need to start things a bit earlier.  Can't expect trains to be running all night.

Start them earlier...best idea ever

Uhm people who finish work are supposed to go straight to the concert in thier work clothes because BEC decides to start the concerts earlier? Dont think so...
They need time to actually go home change and head back out to boondall.

Probably a reasonable idea on a Sunday or a Public Holiday.  I agree with you on Mon-Thu - starting earlier won't and shouldn't happen.

[techblitz]

Translink press release: dated 26.04.2013


Due to earlier rostering of trains for anzac day dawn services we regretfully apologise to black sabbath concert-goers for completely forgetting about the late night services.
We apologise for the inconvenience and any 75 dollar cab fares that you may encounter 

Translink Customer Service

[ozbob]

They have started them earlier, all aim to finish by 11pm.  When they put the extra trains on that was part of the deal I understand. Still issues though because often runs over ..

[#Metro]

A letter to the editor Couriemail 29th April 2013 page 20

Translink must improve

^ Welcome to Queensland. No one gives a damn anymore it seems.