Indooroopilly bus/rail interchange

[somebody]

At present, off peak bus frequency on the Indooroopilly-City corridor is:
15/hour weekday daytime
10/hour sunday daytime
10-11/hour weeknight

Bus travel time is often significantly worse than rail, and only really better in the late evening.  So I propose that everyone would be better off if bus passengers interchanged with rail at Indooroopilly station, and the rail frequency was increased.  6-8tph would be about what I am thinking, with a minimum frequency 18x7 of 4tph.  I have a strong bias towards 8tph as that has a maximum theoretical wait time of 7.5 mins as compared to 10 minutes for 6tph.  People who have to wait 10 minutes for a transfer that they are forced to make get narky and buy cars, so I think a turn up and go service at Indooroopilly station is a must have for interchanges to work out.  Obviously, 15 minutes is even worse.

Heading outbound, there should be guaranteed connections where if the train is late, the bus is held, up until the next train arrives (7.5 minutes later).  Also, rather than looping around Indooroopilly shops like the 427/428/432/599/105 currently do, all outbound services would stop on the far side of Station Rd.

Cutting the bus services should pay for the additional train services, although it could be a close call.  Also freeing space for other buses in the city, especially KGSBS, is something of a plus.

I see three possible locations for interchange:
Between the station, Westminster Rd, Clarence Rd and Lambert Rd
Between Coonan St, Westminster Rd and Station Rd (i.e. where Indooroopilly hotel is)
South of Station Rd.

I think that the first option would be the cheapest, by a fair margin, but the last might be the best as the pedestrian subway already connects there and I don't see another one being built.

What would commuter reaction to something like this be?  I expect a little mixed as most people don't like changing much.  But faster services for the bus people and more frequent trains may outweigh any complaints.  I think one thing which may be annoying is that Central is much worse located than QSBS or KGSBS for most purposes.

Also, what would the cost likely be, both in capital terms and ongoing?

[wsr]

Hi there.

I see this post has been quiet for a while so I'm not sure if this idea will get an airing. Anyway in the attached document is a possible method of implementing a bus/train interchange at Indooroopilly station that should not cost too much to implement. There are bound to be things I haven't considered so feedback is welcome.

wsr

[Golliwog]

Hi there.

I see this post has been quiet for a while so I'm not sure if this idea will get an airing. Anyway in the attached document is a possible method of implementing a bus/train interchange at Indooroopilly station that should not cost too much to implement. There are bound to be things I haven't considered so feedback is welcome.

wsr

Running a loop around similar to that I think is the simplest option. You don't really need to replicate the bus interchange at the shopping center, just somewhere to change between bus and train. Though I think maybe running the loop the other way might work better so the bus is turning left onto the main road so it doesn't necessarily have to wait for a change of lights to pull out.

[somebody]

I think there would be rioting in the streets if the interchange involved taking a southbound lane from Coonan St and having buses needing to cross all traffic to reach Riverview Tce.

[SurfRail]

Simon - was your original post before or after the P88 started up?  (Can't remember when it commenced.)

[somebody]

Simon - was your original post before or after the P88 started up?  (Can't remember when it commenced.)

Yes.  I believe it started a few months before the Richlands line opened, making the 88 starting in late 2010.

[wsr]

I think there would be rioting in the streets if the interchange involved taking a southbound lane from Coonan St and having buses needing to cross all traffic to reach Riverview Tce.

The rioters would be able to catch a bus to the event. The buses having to cross the through-traffic twice could be an issue. I guess I thought the motorists could just give way to the buses. They're supposed to aren't they? (where's that flying pig icon?)

Another possibility would be to have the bus stop area on the other side of the Coonan St. Replacing the current northbound lanes, but still going south. It would need to be a fenced-off area perhaps similar to some of the bus stops at the north end of Ann St in the city. This would ease the traffic flows but make it more difficult for the inter-changing passengers.

[Gazza]

The buses should just go Anticlockwise around a loop, so Station, Coonan, Westminster.
You could fit two stops On Westminster, in Front of Cartridge World, and you could also fit two stops in front of Indooroopilly Hotel, by banning left turns from Station Rd (Left Turns would just use Westminster instead)

Would 4 stops be enough for all routes?

A good stratergy would be to start off some routes like that, and then use that as a case to build a proper interchange once passenger/interchange volumes start to rise.

[wsr]

Yeah, maybe that would be a good starting point. It would certainly be easy to implement, and incremental change is a good way test the waters and keep the budget in check. In the long run though you would want the 2 services to be more connected. When the only option for lesser-abled people to make their interchange is to struggle across a busy road in whatever the weather is dishing up, then that isn't a good outcome.

[wsr]

Sorry, I meant to add that a part of my idea is to change some existing bus routes so that they terminate at Indooroopilly station rather then continuing on into the city. If there is initially a 4 bus stop limit then you would only change the number of routes that would make best use of those 4 stops.

[somebody]

I think the answer for now is extending the UQ-Indro routes beyond Indro to some location.  My preference is Centenary.