Frequency or Fares

[#Metro]

[Gazza]

Bob can you tweet this image to the relevant people with the simple worlds "Brisbane's 'world class' bus service"?

Route looks stupid when you look it up
http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/services-and-timetables/timetables/100222_336,337.pdf
....From Ellison St it does a weird little diversion along Wilcott, Halsmere and Danette St.
The dumb thing is none of the areas served are more than 200m from the main rd (Ellsion St) anyway, so its not like it is improving the catchment.
A suburb tour if there ever was one.

[Golliwog]

Bob can you tweet this image to the relevant people with the simple worlds "Brisbane's 'world class' bus service"?

Wouldn't that be the 399? Actually, there were about 12 people on the first run to Samford this afternoon. The most I've ever seen.

[#Metro]

That image also gives away something else about the network.

1. There are corridors that have too many bus routes and too much service with too many routes (think Coronation Drive)
2. There are other corridors that have too few bus routes and crapola service

There needs to be a rebalancing so that the corridors are Core Frequent and the overlap is reduced such that money is available for feeder services.

There also seems to be an implicit policy that anything that feeds a rail station is a 'link' or 'local' service that MUST run at ultra-low frequency (like hourly or half hourly), whereas you would never do that to a bus feeding into a busway.

From a planning perspective, a bus approaching a busway should be treated as equivalent to a bus approaching a railway- in both cases passengers are being loaded into a Class A ROW.

[HappyTrainGuy]

It should also be noted that in that photo it shares that particular road part with the 335 route but the 335 splits off to Carseldine station while the 337 goes to the Aspley Interchange.

If it was ran during the peak hour it would be a good feeder route.

[STB]

336/337 is obviously a historical 'granny' route that would've been designed for shoppers only back in the day.  Of course though there is a lot more potential for this type of route, I just doubt that it would have the patronage to back it up (yes I know chicken and the egg - but Planners can't convince the money people aka Treasury, unless there is initial demand for it in the first place).

[Set in train]

Surely there is not sustained demand for this service?

[#Metro]

336/337 is obviously a historical 'granny' route that would've been designed for shoppers only back in the day.  Of course though there is a lot more potential for this type of route, I just doubt that it would have the patronage to back it up (yes I know chicken and the egg - but Planners can't convince the money people aka Treasury, unless there is initial demand for it in the first place).

And this is exactly the problem. We have coverage routes like this everywhere. Why is it that a city like Toronto, which has grid roads , and the northside which also has grid roads, once city runs frequent buses straight down the grid terminating at the train station, the other runs this mess...

[Gazza]

Wouldn't that be the 399? Actually, there were about 12 people on the first run to Samford this afternoon. The most I've ever seen.

Hate to be harsh, but that seems to be about the right level of service for the area.
Perhaps a midday trip or two?

Certainly don't move out there for a car free lifestyle, or because the housing is cheap, do you?

[STB]

Bob can you tweet this image to the relevant people with the simple worlds "Brisbane's 'world class' bus service"?

Route looks stupid when you look it up
http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/services-and-timetables/timetables/100222_336,337.pdf
....From Ellison St it does a weird little diversion along Wilcott, Halsmere and Danette St.
The dumb thing is none of the areas served are more than 200m from the main rd (Ellsion St) anyway, so its not like it is improving the catchment.
A suburb tour if there ever was one.

There's a Wesley Mission in Halsmere Street catering for aged care and services and housing for the aged, which I suppose is why it does that dogleg into there, to provide a bus service outside the main entrance.

http://www.wmb.org.au/page/Contact_us/Office_Locations/

EDIT: Actually, I do believe that is the main reason it does what it does in that area.  On Street View, the only bus stop in that area is outside that establishment.  Now I suppose they could walk out to Ellison Rd, but I did check that and there's a slight hill leading up to that road.  Perhaps there are some safety considerations as well with crossing Ellison Rd with people who are aged going to this centre.