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The CanDo LNP - Building Queensland's Future Together - Discussion Paper

http://candoqld.com.au/policies/the-cando-lnp-building-queenslands-future-together-discussion-paper

QuoteThe LNP is committed to getting Queensland back on track in economic performance, social development and infrastructure investment and will have a real plan for our State's future.

Under the current tired Labor Government infrastructure constraints hamper the performance of the Four Pillars of Queensland's economy that drive growth, job creation and prosperity –  Agriculture, Construction, Resources and Tourism.

The LNP will focus on the Four Pillars of our economy to make sure Queensland once again becomes the leading Australian state to do business, get a job, raise a family and buy a house.

The LNP believes delivering infrastructure to drive economic growth and deliver services should be a primary policy objective of our State Government. We understand that driving economic growth is ultimately the only way to regain our financial strength needed to generate the revenue required to provide the social infrastructure and services Queenslanders deserve.

Bligh Labor's appalling financial management will leave Queensland burdened with $85 billion of debt. This will mean funding the infrastructure that is so desperately needed to take the state forward will be a major challenge.

Labor's recent Queensland Infrastructure Plan released in July failed to quantify the infrastructure deficit in Queensland, but following our review it is estimated the unfunded infrastructure deficit is a minimum of $150 billion.

The LNP has already sought and received extensive input into Infrastructure Priorities from councils and industry across Queensland. Building Queensland's Future Together Discussion Paper is an opportunity for the community to participate and have a say in Queensland's future infrastructure priorities.

In contrast the LNP will deliver for Queenslanders. The Building Queensland's Future Together Discussion Paper is the first stage in our plan for the infrastructure Queensland needs and shows the LNP is serious about properly planning and delivering major infrastructure for Queensland.

An LNP Government will provide real leadership, long term planning and a firm commitment to a continual pipeline of projects with a flexible approach towards matching the best financing option for Queenslanders with the right project at the right time.

A CanDo LNP Government will deliver major infrastructure to transform our economy from the lowest to the highest ranked in Australia.

This Building Queensland's Future Together Discussion Paper, has been prepared by Jeff Seeney for the Shadow Cabinet as Parliamentary Leader and Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Planning and Reconstruction following his 90 Infrastructure Consultation. It sets out a draft Plan for the LNP to address Labor's long term failure to build infrastructure in Queensland. This paper is an opportunity for the community to participate and have a say in Queensland's future infrastructure priorities. Comments can be directed to infrastructure@opposition.qld.gov.au.
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Golliwog

WTF. Looking through the contents of the SEQ Mayors crap, and nowhere does it mention CRR, or anything resembling CRR. They have extending the EB to Capalaba as something of National Significance (how that's justified, I don't know), not even in the rail section, where they have things about rail capacity on each line (eg: Manly to Cleveland duplication) or extensions (eg: Darra to Springfield) but nothing about the biggest looming bottleneck of them all.
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O_128

180m to cleveland duplication seems very cheap, And by the looks of it its implying 15 min manly to park road expresses and 15 min buranda to park road.
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colinw

Quote from: O_128 on September 01, 2011, 16:41:32 PM
180m to cleveland duplication seems very cheap, And by the looks of it its implying 15 min manly to park road expresses and 15 min buranda to park road.
Righto, and then all these extra trains get to the Merivale Bridge & Roma St, and ...????!

ozbob

Treasurer and Minister for State Development and Trade
The Honourable Andrew Fraser
01/09/2011

LNP infrastructure plan late, unfunded and plagiarised

Campbell Newman has today released a booklet on infrastructure a month late, without a single explanation of costing and half being stolen from a South East Queensland Councils document, Treasurer Andrew Fraser said.

Campbell Newman was a financial disaster at BCC and today's effort shows he has no idea how to fund any of his so-called plans," Mr Fraser said.

"If Campbell Newman handed this in at Uni he'd be failed and expelled for plagiarising half the document.

"He sent Jeff Seeney on a 90-day tour, 126-days ago and all they've done is re-badge the SEQ Council of Mayors Infrastructure Plan and announce a couple committees.

"Mr Newman clearly still has his head in Brisbane City Council, not across Queensland. He does not have what it takes to run the state."

Mr Fraser said the LNP leader's track record spoke for itself in terms of delivering major infrastructure.

"His first Private Public Partnership (PPP) was a financial disaster with the company now in receivership," Mr Fraser said.

"And his first tilt at a PPP at the state level was Sunshine Coast University Hospital and he missed the mark by $400 million.

"Let's not even mention the debacle that was, and continues to be city cycle."

Mr Fraser said Campbell Newman's reckless financial management was on display with his confused statements on Cross River Rail.

"As mayor he proclaimed, 'I'd like to actually see this cross river rail project completely stopped right now', now he wants to re-design it," Mr Fraser said.

"If he gets his hands on Cross River Rail it will blow-out in costs and end up with a poor design - just like King George Square.

"You can't trust Campbell Newman; he is an absolute policy flake and a ticking financial-time bomb."

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Stillwater

Maybe its the Homer Simpson party -- the Can? .. Doh!! party.

Mr X

Quote from: colinw on September 01, 2011, 16:57:24 PM
Quote from: O_128 on September 01, 2011, 16:41:32 PM
180m to cleveland duplication seems very cheap, And by the looks of it its implying 15 min manly to park road expresses and 15 min buranda to park road.
Righto, and then all these extra trains get to the Merivale Bridge & Roma St, and ...????!


They are replaced by buses  :o or terminate at South Brisbane? :o :o I wouldn't put that past them!!
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ozbob

I was rather confused with the 'discussion paper' large sections of the SEQ Council of Mayors IP just cut and paste into it.   At one stage I thought they had linked the wrong thing.

Not a good look that, lifting that document (although I recognise the former Lord Mayor of Brisbane did have input into that)  ....

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Stillwater

The discussion paper contains large chunks of vitriol against Premier Anna Bligh and Co.  One would have hoped not to see that.  Or is the LNP seeking public comment on the existing state government's performance in the area of public transport?  Does that advance the debate or satisfy the lust for politics?  It is the document of an Opposition, not an aspirational government.

To be worthwhile, any discussion should map out a direction for the future.  This one is a compilation of bits and pieces, a grab bag of ideas (including from the SE-Qld mayors) that, frankly, shows immature thought.  And that is the worrying bit.  The LNP would have us believe that they have a complete transport strategy, they just don't want to reveal it at this stage.  The reality is it probably is still being assembled in a back room and the discussion paper contains the preliminary ideas.

Is it the case that the LNP could not support CRR because it is a 'Labor' transport solution?  Was the thinking that if it supported CRR, the ALP would say the LNP had merely adopted Labor policy.  After all, Mr Newman has made a point about the ALP stealing his ideas.  The CRR was a Holden, so the LNP has to have a Ford.

It would be worrying if the discussion paper was all there is and, in 30 days time, when all the submissions are in, the LNP does another cut and paste of the bits they like.  Maybe the game plan is to leave the document open-ended to accommodate ad hoc transport announcements in marginal seats during the election campaign.  They then gets listed as 'the policy'.  However, a policy is not just about hard infrastructure -- what about ticketing etc?  Costs?  Scheduling and sequencing of projects?

The paper gave some insight into the LNP's proposals for the structure of government, however.  The LNP really should be more advanced in its transport thinking than the discussion paper reveals.  And they are running out of time, with the election only months away.  The document has the feel of being produced in a hurry, with lots of fussing midwives, and under stress.

johnnigh

So, what's surprising about a document compiled by Mr Seeney travelling the state and asking everyone 'what do you want?' then replying to the local booster/mayor/coal miner 'we'll put it in, don't you worry about that'.

Once in govt it will be forgotten, don't you worry about that. And all because of the previous state and limping-along Fed Labor govt's incompetence/intransigence/etc.

Pay no attention. It's only politics, not policy.

Fares_Fair

Was there anything in it for the Sunshine Coast rail line duplication ?

I submitted my 'Sunshine Coast Case' report to the opposition yesterday via 'infrastructure@opposition.qld.gov.au.'


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johnnigh

QuoteWas there anything in it for the Sunshine Coast rail line duplication ?

Of course there was, but don't get your hopes up  >:D

Stillwater


While Sunshine Coast transport infrastructure projects were contained in the Council of SEQ Mayors 'insert' in the LNP discussion paper, the Coast lost out when Mr Newman named his initial six priority projects for funding.  Among the six was a Toowoomba bypass and completion of the Eastern Busway in Brisbane.

O_128

To whom It may concern.

I have been a lifetime LNP supporter, However that has changed yesterday due to Campbell Newmans announcement on Cross River Rail. Cross River Rail is the most important piece of infrastructure in the state and much more important than any road, I would like to know firstly where the LNP will be putting there imaginary extra platforms at south bank and south brisbane and how this will benefit anyone other than increased travel times to the CBD, Add to this that the Gabba and Exhibition will desperately need rail stations in the next 10 years and you have a bit of a problem. I for one do not care who delivers CRR or who's idea it was and you shouldn't either, Metros are a great idea but until the suburban rail system has more capacity then it is just a pipe dream.

If the LNP won't deliver CRR then I will be forced to vote for Labor and deal with another 3 years of incompetency, lies and complete contempt for the general public if CRR is built.
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Mr X

I've already made the decision to put Greens 1st and Labor 2nd at all state and federal elections until the LNP fix themselves up. I still support Quirky as mayor  8)

When are we going to get a government that actually cares about Public Transport? I'm really interested to see what the Greens have to offer.
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O_128

Quote from: o_O on September 02, 2011, 10:57:09 AM
I've already made the decision to put Greens 1st and Labor 2nd at all state and federal elections until the LNP fix themselves up. I still support Quirky as mayor  8)

When are we going to get a government that actually cares about Public Transport? I'm really interested to see what the Greens have to offer.


Spoke to Larrisa Waters about it before last years federal election, there main policies for PT are bus lanes, converting busways to light rail, HSR, inner suburbs metro and they also support CRR. Unfortunately there socialist policies put me off. \

Shame the LNP can't get itself together Newman would make a great premier.
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Mr X

Quote from: O_128 on September 02, 2011, 11:03:28 AM


Spoke to Larrisa Waters about it before last years federal election, there main policies for PT are bus lanes, converting busways to light rail, HSR, inner suburbs metro and they also support CRR. Unfortunately there socialist policies put me off. \

Shame the LNP can't get itself together Newman would make a great premier.

I can put up with their socialist policies if it means we get some good PT in Brisbane
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ozbob

Transport and Multicultural Affairs
The Honourable Annastacia Palaszczuk
07/09/2011

Moreton Bay Rail Link. Not a Newman Priority

There is no LNP commitment to the Moreton Bay Rail Link in their farcical infrastructure plan putting this vital piece of transport infrastructure in jeopardy under Campbell Newman.

Transport Minister Annastacia Palaszczuk said the Moreton Bay Rail link was a critical piece of infrastructure the Bligh Government was delivering in partnership with the Federal Government and Moreton Bay Regional Council.

"This government is investing $300 million in Moreton Bay Rail Link during the life of the project," Ms Palaszczuk said.

"Moreton Bay region is one of the fastest growing areas in the country with the population set to exceed 500,000 by 2031.

"Moreton Bay Rail Link will significantly improve public transport to the area providing an incentive for people to switch from private vehicles to public transport.

"The Moreton Bay Rail Link will be attractive to commuters for one simple reason - it will be faster.

"An express train from Kippa-Ring to Brisbane's CBD is expected to take about 45 minutes, compared to well over an hour by car in peak-hour traffic."

Ms Palaszczuk said the biggest risk to the Moreton Bay Rail Link was Campbell Newman and the LNP.

When Campbell Newman released his infrastructure plan last week, he didn't even mention the Moreton Bay Rail Link as a priority and he did not commit to building it.

"In fact, the Moreton Bay Rail Link only managed to rate one mention in the LNP's plan - in Appendix A on page 71," Ms Palaszczuk said.

"It's listed as a project that is needed, but one that has no funding allocated to it.

"The Bligh Government is committed to delivering this project and has already allocated $47m in the budget this year to kick start the project.

"By refusing to back Moreton Bay Rail Link, Campbell Newman yet again fails the people of South-East Queensland.

"We can't wait until the election for Campbell Newman to tell us how badly he will wreck public transport.

"If the LNP say there is no funding attached to the MBRL, it can only mean one thing. Campbell Newman wants to rip the money out of the Moreton Bay Rail Link and spend it somewhere else.

"He won't commit to building the Moreton Bay Rail Link because he doesn't want to build it."

Ms Palaszczuk said Campbell Newman needed to come clean and tell the truth to the people of Moreton Bay.

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Fares_Fair

Quote from: ozbob on September 07, 2011, 18:50:50 PM
Transport and Multicultural Affairs
The Honourable Annastacia Palaszczuk
07/09/2011

Moreton Bay Rail Link. Not a Newman Priority

There is no LNP commitment to the Moreton Bay Rail Link in their farcical infrastructure plan putting this vital piece of transport infrastructure in jeopardy under Campbell Newman.

Transport Minister Annastacia Palaszczuk said the Moreton Bay Rail link was a critical piece of infrastructure the Bligh Government was delivering in partnership with the Federal Government and Moreton Bay Regional Council.

"This government is investing $300 million in Moreton Bay Rail Link during the life of the project," Ms Palaszczuk said.

"Moreton Bay region is one of the fastest growing areas in the country with the population set to exceed 500,000 by 2031.

"Moreton Bay Rail Link will significantly improve public transport to the area providing an incentive for people to switch from private vehicles to public transport.

"The Moreton Bay Rail Link will be attractive to commuters for one simple reason - it will be faster.

"An express train from Kippa-Ring to Brisbane's CBD is expected to take about 45 minutes, compared to well over an hour by car in peak-hour traffic."

Ms Palaszczuk said the biggest risk to the Moreton Bay Rail Link was Campbell Newman and the LNP.

When Campbell Newman released his infrastructure plan last week, he didn't even mention the Moreton Bay Rail Link as a priority and he did not commit to building it.

"In fact, the Moreton Bay Rail Link only managed to rate one mention in the LNP's plan - in Appendix A on page 71," Ms Palaszczuk said.

"It's listed as a project that is needed, but one that has no funding allocated to it.

"The Bligh Government is committed to delivering this project and has already allocated $47m in the budget this year to kick start the project.

"By refusing to back Moreton Bay Rail Link, Campbell Newman yet again fails the people of South-East Queensland.

"We can't wait until the election for Campbell Newman to tell us how badly he will wreck public transport.

"If the LNP say there is no funding attached to the MBRL, it can only mean one thing. Campbell Newman wants to rip the money out of the Moreton Bay Rail Link and spend it somewhere else.

"He won't commit to building the Moreton Bay Rail Link because he doesn't want to build it."

Ms Palaszczuk said Campbell Newman needed to come clean and tell the truth to the people of Moreton Bay.

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Yeah, and so is the Sunshine Coast (populatiion 508,000 by 2031) and what is government doing about it, nothing !

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somebody

If there wasn't Federal money they wouldn't be doing Kippa-Ring either.

colinw

Quote from: O_128 on September 02, 2011, 10:14:59 AM
To whom It may concern.

I have been a lifetime LNP supporter, However that has changed yesterday due to Campbell Newmans announcement on Cross River Rail. Cross River Rail is the most important piece of infrastructure in the state and much more important than any road, I would like to know firstly where the LNP will be putting there imaginary extra platforms at south bank and south brisbane and how this will benefit anyone other than increased travel times to the CBD, Add to this that the Gabba and Exhibition will desperately need rail stations in the next 10 years and you have a bit of a problem. I for one do not care who delivers CRR or who's idea it was and you shouldn't either, Metros are a great idea but until the suburban rail system has more capacity then it is just a pipe dream.

If the LNP won't deliver CRR then I will be forced to vote for Labor and deal with another 3 years of incompetency, lies and complete contempt for the general public if CRR is built.

+1 from me.  While I am not a rusted on LNP supporter, over my voting lifetime I have tended to vote Liberal or National more often than Labor.

Until Newman's ridiculous announcements about CRR, I was probably going to vote LNP at the next State Election, but believe I will now do a 1/2 Green then Labor preference.  I can't abide the Greens' economic policies (such as they are), and dislike the current Labor Government, but if it gets me CRR, completion of MBRL, and some hope of more frequent rail services then my vote has to go against the LNP.  I simply cannot risk the LNP when their policy pronouncements are so ad-hoc and incoherent, nor do I believe based on his track record that Newman intends anything other than roads, roads and more roads.

mufreight

Obviously Mr Newman would not want to commit to the MBRL, if it is built there is not the capacity to operate the services using existing infrastructure between Petrie and Northgate or through the CBD and Mr Newman has already stated that he does not want to build CRR.
But then Mr Newman has not committed to anything relative to public transport and it is increasingly doubtful that he will.

Stillwater

If only the LNP put as much effort into having a comprehensive transport policy as it did into gathering dirt and sleeze on its ALP opponents.  I wonder when the discussion paper gets turned around into something credible and what will it have to say about CRR?

Golliwog

Quote from: Stillwater on October 12, 2011, 22:33:56 PM
If only the LNP put as much effort into having a comprehensive transport policy as it did into gathering dirt and sleeze on its ALP opponents.  I wonder when the discussion paper gets turned around into something credible and what will it have to say about CRR?

Sometime shortly after an election I think.
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Stillwater

You are probably correct, Golli.  They will run with the vague 'we will do it better than the ALP' argument, hoping to get into power, at which time they will have access to the public service to sort out the mess of whatever election promises they make.  It will be very disappointing if that is the LNP plan.  Let's hope that pre-election debate is not of the variety whereby the focus is on whether ALP members and ministers sleep around or fall drunk in the gutter every so often.  That just makes the choice for voters between the dirt-digging LNP and the sleezeball ALP.  What a choice, and what does this say about Queensland politics?

#Metro

Yawn. Discussion paper is not a policy. Ignore...

I will believe it when I see it printed in the timetable.
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