• Welcome to RAIL - Back On Track Forum.
 

29 Apr 2011: SEQ: Will the 2011 Ekka be a public transport enlightenment?

Started by ozbob, April 29, 2011, 03:43:24 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

ozbob

Media Release 29 April 2011

SEQ:  Will the 2011 Ekka be a public transport enlightenment?

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport commuters has highlighted for a number of years the failure of the Brisbane Exhibition to properly support public transport travel to and from the Exhibition (1).  Travel by bus has in the past incurred no extra fare for public transport commuters transferring but rail passengers have been required to pay an additional fare to travel from the CBD to the Exhibition station as well as the normal fare to and from the CBD (2).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"The Shows in Melbourne and Sydney, the equivalent of the Brisbane Exhibition include public transport travel to and from the shows as part of the admission ticket.  This is sensible and actually encourages more patrons to attend the shows.  This is a lesson that the Brisbane Exhibition organisers fail to grasp.  No doubt the car parking 'gouge' has something to do with it."

"For the past years, rail passengers have been slugged an extra fare, bus passengers were not (1).  We have suggested in the past that  rail passengers, if able, detrain at Fortitude Valley or Bowen Hills railway stations and walk to the Exhibition.  The active transport does them good and passengers will have the satisfaction of not having to pay the additional fare costs.  Alternatively they detrained at Central or Roma St and made use of the buses."

"The Royal National Agricultural and Industrial Association was slammed by TransLink in 2009 (3) for the failure to support proper public transport arrangements, and for the 2010 the Brisbane Exhibition it was still in a state of denial. It would be the benefit to all if Exhibition railway station was treated as a normal zone one station and ticketing was made seamless.  This would encourage maximum utilisation of public transport to and from the Ekka, and in so doing actually saving the community in terms of reduced congestion and less road trauma. Attendance at the Exhibition would also be improved no doubt.  As it is, the travel arrangements in the past for the Ekka have been absurd and anti-public transport. Contrast this to the public transport arrangements for the recent 2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show (4) "

"Will there be a public transport enlightenment for the 2011 Ekka? Or will south-east Queensland remain as a public transport backwater?"

References:

1.  http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.0

2.  http://www.translink.com.au/ekka2010_fares.php#addon

3.  TransLink slams Ekka rail shame Brisbane mX 17th July 2009 page 4 http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.msg12161#msg12161

4.  2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show http://www.eastershow.com.au/Plan/public-transport.html

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

brismike

Hi Robert .. I'm in London at the moment and my wife and I are using the daily offpeak travel card to get around. For 6.4 pounds (About $9.60) I can travel all day on The Underground, Dockland Light Railway and Buses in zone 1 & 2. I can go anywhere I like as many times as I like from 9.30am until early the next morning.

Zone 2 goes out to about the equivalent of Darra from Brisbane CBD and all the attractions you would want to visit are inside that area. Today I travelled on 10 Trains and a 1 Bus for that price so it is great value and so easy to use.

Translink could learn so much from TFL its not funny. The extra charge they impose on Ekka customers for using a station that is essentially a zone 1 station is an absolute joke. They need to re-introduce a daily offpeak travelcard too so that tourists don't have to mess about with gocards or flimsy paper tickets.

Regards Mike

ozbob

G'day Mike!

Enjoy, hopefully there will be tourist ticket product here in south-east Queensland in the not too distant future.  Goodness knows how many times we have raised it.  Clearly there is a need for a re-think on a number of aspects of the present fare structure, there has been some vague committments of sorts, we can only but hope!

Cheers
Bob
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

ozbob

Media Release 29 April 2011 re-released 22 July 2011

SEQ:  Will the 2011 Ekka be a public transport enlightenment?

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport commuters has highlighted for a number of years the failure of the Brisbane Exhibition to properly support public transport travel to and from the Exhibition (1).  Travel by bus has in the past incurred no extra fare for public transport commuters transferring but rail passengers have been required to pay an additional fare to travel from the CBD to the Exhibition station as well as the normal fare to and from the CBD (2).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"The Shows in Melbourne and Sydney, the equivalent of the Brisbane Exhibition include public transport travel to and from the shows as part of the admission ticket.  This is sensible and actually encourages more patrons to attend the shows.  This is a lesson that the Brisbane Exhibition organisers fail to grasp.  No doubt the car parking 'gouge' has something to do with it."

"For the past years, rail passengers have been slugged an extra fare, bus passengers were not (1).  We have suggested in the past that  rail passengers, if able, detrain at Fortitude Valley or Bowen Hills railway stations and walk to the Exhibition.  The active transport does them good and passengers will have the satisfaction of not having to pay the additional fare costs.  Alternatively they detrained at Central or Roma St and made use of the buses."

"The Royal National Agricultural and Industrial Association was slammed by TransLink in 2009 (3) for the failure to support proper public transport arrangements, and for the 2010 the Brisbane Exhibition it was still in a state of denial. It would be the benefit to all if Exhibition railway station was treated as a normal zone one station and ticketing was made seamless.  This would encourage maximum utilisation of public transport to and from the Ekka, and in so doing actually saving the community in terms of reduced congestion and less road trauma. Attendance at the Exhibition would also be improved no doubt.  As it is, the travel arrangements in the past for the Ekka have been absurd and anti-public transport. Contrast this to the public transport arrangements for the recent 2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show (4) "

"Will there be a public transport enlightenment for the 2011 Ekka? Or will south-east Queensland remain as a public transport backwater?"

References:

1.   http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.0

2.   http://www.translink.com.au/ekka2010_fares.php#addon

3.   TransLink slams Ekka rail shame Brisbane mX 17th July 2009 page 4 http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.msg12161#msg12161

4.   2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show http://www.eastershow.com.au/Plan/public-transport.html

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

ozbob

From the Herald Sun click here!

I'm not following your train of thought


http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/08/01/1226106/186806-show-horse.jpg

Jessica Jafer tries to get a reluctant pony on a train. Picture: Bruce Magilton Herald Sun

QuoteI'm not following your train of thought

    Staff Writer
    From: Herald Sun
    August 02, 2011 12:00AM

YOU see plenty of sights at Flinders St station, but yesterday some more unusual passengers were roped into promoting a new ticket to this year's Royal Melbourne Show.

The Royal Agricultural Society of Victoria waltzed on to a Metro train to promote the new value ticket packages.

The ticket is designed to encourage people to take public transport to the event and for the first time includes entry and travel-saver pass in one.

The $79 package includes all-day zones 1 and 2 travel on tram, train and bus as well as show admission, saving $24.60 on a family ticket for two adults and two children.

The 156th Royal Melbourne Show will be held at the Melbourne Showgrounds, Epsom Rd, Ascot Vale from September 24 to October 4.
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

ozbob

Sent to all outlets:

2nd August 2011

SEQ:  Will the 2011 Ekka be a public transport enlightenment?

Greetings,

I might be on a losing battle here, but it is worthwhile noting what more enlightened jurisdictions are doing public transport wise.  Just further reinforcement of the public transport backwater we are in south-east Queensland ...

Enjoy the Ekka in your cars cars and cars ...

From the Herald Sun click here!

I'm not following your train of thought



http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/08/01/1226106/186806-show-horse.jpg

Jessica Jafer tries to get a reluctant pony on a train. Picture: Bruce Magilton Herald Sun

QuoteI'm not following your train of thought

Staff Writer
From: Herald Sun
August 02, 2011 12:00AM

YOU see plenty of sights at Flinders St station, but yesterday some more unusual passengers were roped into promoting a new ticket to this year's Royal Melbourne Show.

The Royal Agricultural Society of Victoria waltzed on to a Metro train to promote the new value ticket packages.

The ticket is designed to encourage people to take public transport to the event and for the first time includes entry and travel-saver pass in one.

The $79 package includes all-day zones 1 and 2 travel on tram, train and bus as well as show admission, saving $24.60 on a family ticket for two adults and two children.

The 156th Royal Melbourne Show will be held at the Melbourne Showgrounds, Epsom Rd, Ascot Vale from September 24 to October 4.

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org

=========================

Media Release 29 April 2011 re-released 22 July 2011 re-released 2 August 2011

SEQ:  Will the 2011 Ekka be a public transport enlightenment?

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport commuters has highlighted for a number of years the failure of the Brisbane Exhibition to properly support public transport travel to and from the Exhibition (1).  Travel by bus has in the past incurred no extra fare for public transport commuters transferring but rail passengers have been required to pay an additional fare to travel from the CBD to the Exhibition station as well as the normal fare to and from the CBD (2).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"The Shows in Melbourne and Sydney, the equivalent of the Brisbane Exhibition include public transport travel to and from the shows as part of the admission ticket.  This is sensible and actually encourages more patrons to attend the shows.  This is a lesson that the Brisbane Exhibition organisers fail to grasp.  No doubt the car parking 'gouge' has something to do with it."

"For the past years, rail passengers have been slugged an extra fare, bus passengers were not (1).  We have suggested in the past that  rail passengers, if able, detrain at Fortitude Valley or Bowen Hills railway stations and walk to the Exhibition.  The active transport does them good and passengers will have the satisfaction of not having to pay the additional fare costs.  Alternatively they detrained at Central or Roma St and made use of the buses."

"The Royal National Agricultural and Industrial Association was slammed by TransLink in 2009 (3) for the failure to support proper public transport arrangements, and for the 2010 the Brisbane Exhibition it was still in a state of denial. It would be the benefit to all if Exhibition railway station was treated as a normal zone one station and ticketing was made seamless.  This would encourage maximum utilisation of public transport to and from the Ekka, and in so doing actually saving the community in terms of reduced congestion and less road trauma. Attendance at the Exhibition would also be improved no doubt.  As it is, the travel arrangements in the past for the Ekka have been absurd and anti-public transport. Contrast this to the public transport arrangements for the recent 2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show (4) "

"Will there be a public transport enlightenment for the 2011 Ekka? Or will south-east Queensland remain as a public transport backwater?"

References:

1.  http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.0

2.  http://www.translink.com.au/ekka2010_fares.php#addon

3.  TransLink slams Ekka rail shame Brisbane mX 17th July 2009 page 4 http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.msg12161#msg12161

4.  2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show http://www.eastershow.com.au/Plan/public-transport.html

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

Golliwog

They put up the Ekka 2011 page on the Translink last week. Still paying extra on the train IIRC but not bus. Though having a look now and it is no longer available.
There is no silver bullet... but there is silver buckshot.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Golliwog

Quote from: Golliwog on August 02, 2011, 14:39:03 PM
They put up the Ekka 2011 page on the Translink last week. Still paying extra on the train IIRC but not bus. Though having a look now and it is no longer available.
And its back now: http://translink.com.au/travel-information/services-and-timetables/event-transport/ekka2011

Quote
TransLink is putting on extra buses and trains to help you get to the Ekka.
Public transport

There will be:

    Two shuttle buses (routes 500 and 600) travelling to and from the Ekka approximately every 15 minutes.
    Ekka loop trains to and from Exhibition railway station approximately every 15 minutes.
    Additional trains on all lines on the Exhibition Show Holiday.
    Some scheduled trains extended to service the Exhibition station.

More information about public transport services to the Ekka.

Use the journey planner to find the easiest way to get to and from the Ekka.
Public holiday service changes

Some services will be operating on public holiday timetables on the:

    Ekka Wednesday public holiday services (Wednesday 17 August 2010)
    Regional public holiday services (Monday 15 August)

Tickets and fares

Normal TransLink tickets and fares apply for all transport to the Ekka, including the shuttle buses and additional train services, but an add on fare applies when you catch a train to Exhibition station.

go card is the easiest way to travel - the fare is worked out for you!

Remember - always touch on and touch off when you use your go card.

More information about public transport tickets and fares to the Ekka.
Event details

See a map with the entrance gates and nearby stops and stations.

Visit the Ekka website or call 3852 1831 for Ekka information.
There is no silver bullet... but there is silver buckshot.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

ozbob

Sent to all outlets:

10th August 2011

Rail Fail Re: SEQ:  Will the 2011 Ekka be a public transport enlightenment?

Greetings,

EKKA time again, begins tomorrow. One has to laugh at the suggestions by various commentators on the radio for people to use public transport.  No integrated Ekka and  public transport ticket that is routine in other states.  Additional rip-off rail fare for rail passengers to the Exhibition station, which although in zone one is declared a special zone and an additional fare levied.

Queensland, a public transport backwater ...

Do you think it would be reasonable for the Brisbane Exhibition to be billed for the congestion costs, the pollution costs, and the cost of the road trauma health sector costs for their failure to contribute to sensible transport arrangements?

Best wishes
Robert

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

=====================

Media Release 29 April 2011 re-released 22 July 2011 re-released 2 August 2011 re-released 10 August 2011

SEQ:  Will the 2011 Ekka be a public transport enlightenment?

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport commuters has highlighted for a number of years the failure of the Brisbane Exhibition to properly support public transport travel to and from the Exhibition (1).  Travel by bus has in the past incurred no extra fare for public transport commuters transferring but rail passengers have been required to pay an additional fare to travel from the CBD to the Exhibition station as well as the normal fare to and from the CBD (2).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"The Shows in Melbourne and Sydney, the equivalent of the Brisbane Exhibition include public transport travel to and from the shows as part of the admission ticket.  This is sensible and actually encourages more patrons to attend the shows.  This is a lesson that the Brisbane Exhibition organisers fail to grasp.  No doubt the car parking 'gouge' has something to do with it."

"For the past years, rail passengers have been slugged an extra fare, bus passengers were not (1).  We have suggested in the past that  rail passengers, if able, detrain at Fortitude Valley or Bowen Hills railway stations and walk to the Exhibition.  The active transport does them good and passengers will have the satisfaction of not having to pay the additional fare costs.  Alternatively they detrained at Central or Roma St and made use of the buses."

"The Royal National Agricultural and Industrial Association was slammed by TransLink in 2009 (3) for the failure to support proper public transport arrangements, and for the 2010 the Brisbane Exhibition it was still in a state of denial. It would be the benefit to all if Exhibition railway station was treated as a normal zone one station and ticketing was made seamless.  This would encourage maximum utilisation of public transport to and from the Ekka, and in so doing actually saving the community in terms of reduced congestion and less road trauma. Attendance at the Exhibition would also be improved no doubt.  As it is, the travel arrangements in the past for the Ekka have been absurd and anti-public transport. Contrast this to the public transport arrangements for the recent 2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show (4) "

"Will there be a public transport enlightenment for the 2011 Ekka? Or will south-east Queensland remain as a public transport backwater?"

References:

1.  http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.0

2.  http://www.translink.com.au/ekka2010_fares.php#addon

3.  TransLink slams Ekka rail shame Brisbane mX 17th July 2009 page 4 http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=2316.msg12161#msg12161

4.  2011 Sydney Royal Easter Show http://www.eastershow.com.au/Plan/public-transport.html

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

ozbob

Can you imagine the wide eyed children, shepherded along by the dollar-shocked carers, paying very expensive paper single tickets and then forking out for the admission tickets?

And should they not be able to start the final trip of their journey within 3.5 hours for journey from zones 11 or more having to buy multiple paper tickets???  And how is the once-a-year punter expected to know these bizarre rules??

Many people who go to the Ekka are not regular travellers.  They will not have a go card.

In short, a major failure ...
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

SurfRail

I was reading something on the TL website about normal zone one fares applying for travel between the Ekka and Roma St, Central and the Valley only, but with the additional fare applying if you started outside the city or if you transferred from a bus to one of those 3 stations.  Very confusing and an utter mess.

Just fix it!
Ride the G:

Mr X

Shouldn't EKKA PT be free and the RNA billed for the unpaid fares, which in turn is paid through ticket revenue? The amount of non-EKKA goers on the 500 and 600 getting a free ride would be minimal I'd imagine and would also help to reduce the parking issues and traffic that occurs around that part of town in EKKA time! Not sure how we'd do the trains though, free if you got off at EKKA station?
The user once known as Happy Bus User (HBU)
The opinions contained within my posts and profile are my own and don't necessarily reflect those of the greater Rail Back on Track community.

ozbob

A letter to editor Couriermail 18th August 2011

Costly parking pain lingers



Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

ozbob

From the Couriermail click here!

Brisbane Ekka People's Day proves costly for patrons between TransLink fares and parking tickets

QuoteBrisbane Ekka People's Day proves costly for patrons between TransLink fares and parking tickets

GETTING to the Ekka proved a costly experience for some this year, with TransLink accused of ripping off train travellers on the show holiday and parking inspectors issuing a flood of fines.

Despite operating a Sunday timetable on People's Day, bus and train passengers were charged peak fares on their go cards for travel before 9am or after 3.30pm.

Commuters who complained about the higher fare - ranging from an extra 40 cents to $2.50 - were told by TransLink that "People's Day is not a gazetted public holiday".

"I didn't anticipate them doing anything about it but I can't help wonder how much money they made from this little rip-off," said Colin, who did not want his surname used.

Brisbane City Council parking inspectors also generated a windfall for their employer, handing out more than $100,000 worth of tickets during the 10-day show.

n total, 1521 vehicles were booked for stopping on yellow lines, parking in loading zones or disabled bays or overstaying parking meters.

A further 208 drivers were let off with a warning.

Council lifestyle committee chairwoman Geraldine Knapp made no apology for the ticket blitz, saying illegal parking around the Ekka inconvenienced local residents and created traffic hazards.

"People who park in loading zones and disabled parking areas are breaking the law and creating a public nuisance," Cr Knapp said.

"Parking in bus zones and dropping off passengers in no- stopping zones impedes the flow of traffic, including public transport, as well as creating a safety risk."

The Courier-Mail revealed this week illegal parking was the No.1 complaint received by the council's call centre last financial year.

A TransLink spokesman defended the decision to run a Sunday timetable but charge normal weekday fares on People's Day, saying the Ekka holiday was celebrated on different days in different areas.

"Someone travelling from an area where it is not a public holiday - such as Logan, Ipswich, Redland Bay or Caboolture - into Brisbane would need to be charged two different fares if the normal weekday fares were not applied uniformly across the TransLink network," he said.

"We will hold discussions with the RNA organisers before the next Ekka about patronage."
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

ozbob

Brisbane and Ekka, you are a backwater ...

========================

http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/1960-save-money-use-vline-to-get-to-the-royal-show.html

Save money: use V/Line to get to the Royal Show

Wednesday, 14 September 2011
From the Minister for Public Transport

The 2011 Royal Melbourne Show will soon begin with V/Line travellers again having an opportunity to save money by taking the train, Minister for Public Transport Terry Mulder announced today.

Royal Melbourne Show ticket holders can travel return with V/Line from anywhere in Victoria for $13 during off-peak times, saving full fare paying adults $8.60 from Ballarat, $19.40 from Bendigo, $17.40 from Traralgon and $4.40 from Seymour.

Passengers travelling from longer distance locations can save even more.

An adult travelling from Ararat saves $29.20, from Swan Hill $48.60, from Albury, Warrnambool and Bairnsdale $40.40 and from Shepparton $23.40.

The $13 return special event fare includes free travel on Melbourne's trains, trams and buses to get to and from the Show, including Metro's frequent Show trains from Flinders Street, Southern Cross and North Melbourne direct to the Showgrounds platform.

Mr Mulder said the travel offer, now in its fifth year, had proved popular.

"The V/Line special event ticket caters for everybody," Mr Mulder said.

"Passengers travelling from as far as Warrnambool, Bairnsdale, Ararat, Swan Hill, Echuca, Shepparton or Albury can break their journey and return the following day.

"Frequent trains between Traralgon, Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo, Seymour and Southern Cross mean passengers can return home on the same day. Passengers on many V/Line trains can also change at North Melbourne, but please check timetables first to make sure the V/Line train stops there.

"Using V/Line is an easy option to get to the Royal Melbourne Show without having to worry about car parking, fuel and tollway charges," Mr Mulder said.

The special $13 train ticket cannot be used on weekday trains arriving in Melbourne before 9:00am, or on trains departing Melbourne between 4:00pm and 6:00pm. Normal peak fares apply during these weekday times.

To be eligible, travellers must present a 2011 Royal Melbourne Show entry ticket when purchasing a V/Line ticket. Barcoded Show tickets printed from the Internet are also eligible for the V/Line special event ticket.

V/Line Marketing and Stakeholder Relations General Manager Paul Matthews said that apart from being cheaper, travelling during off-peak hours was generally less crowded, meaning a more comfortable journey.

"By arriving in Melbourne after 9:00am on weekdays, Show patrons can save money with V/Line's special Show fare, which means more showbags for the kids," Mr Matthews said.

"It is also wise that passengers not return to the country between 4:00pm and 6:00pm on weekdays when V/Line ticket prices are more expensive."

The 2011 Royal Melbourne Show runs from Saturday 24 September to Tuesday 4 October. All travel must be completed by 4 October.

Full terms and conditions of the V/Line special event ticket can be viewed at www.vline.com.au

===================

http://www.royalshow.com.au/getting-to-the-show.asp

Entry & Travel Saver Ticket

The new Entry & Travel Saver ticket combines the convenience of public transport and great savings on entry to this year's Show. From only $17 the new Entry & Travel Saver includes public transport to and from Melbourne Showgrounds and entry to the Show. On sale until 6pm, 4 October from Ticketek.

Details --> http://www.royalshow.com.au/tickets-special-offers.asp#entryTravelSaver
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

somebody

Besides Ekka, I think Brisbane is quite enlightened.

PT included in ticket prices for games at Suncorp and 'Gabba, no parking, and pretty good services.

ozbob

Quote from: Simon on September 15, 2011, 09:16:15 AM
Besides Ekka, I think Brisbane is quite enlightened.

PT included in ticket prices for games at Suncorp and 'Gabba, no parking, and pretty good services.

Other jurisdictions do that as well.  The difference being is that they do more, even Sydney has admission/public transport integrated for the Royal Easter Show ...
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

somebody

Quote from: ozbob on September 15, 2011, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: Simon on September 15, 2011, 09:16:15 AM
Besides Ekka, I think Brisbane is quite enlightened.

PT included in ticket prices for games at Suncorp and 'Gabba, no parking, and pretty good services.

Other jurisdictions do that as well.  The difference being is that they do more, even Sydney has admission/public transport integrated for the Royal Easter Show ...
But they have never had it for games at Moore Park, where you have to pay a fare for the train to Central, and a separate fare for the bus between there and Moore Park.  It was being looked at late last year.

Sydney may be good for the show, but I don't think for other events at Olympic park.  Seems the reverse of Brisbane.

ozbob

Sydney still struggles agreed some things, but Melbourne has it all sorted ... football etc.

TransLink has authority under the legislation to act, maybe it is time they started to act to ensure the Ekka meltdown is not repeated.  Other events over threshold could also be brought into the event ticketing arrangements.
Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

SurfRail

Quote from: ozbob on September 15, 2011, 10:39:56 AM
Sydney still struggles agreed some things, but Melbourne has it all sorted ... football etc.

TransLink has authority under the legislation to act, maybe it is time they started to act to ensure the Ekka meltdown is not repeated.  Other events over threshold could also be brought into the event ticketing arrangements.

Boondall is the big one that never gets a showing.
Ride the G:

somebody


ozbob

From the Couriermail click here!

Push to force event-goers to pay for public transport

Quote
Push to force event-goers to pay for public transport

    by: Robyn Ironside
    From: The Courier-Mail
    September 26, 2011 12:00AM

EVERYONE who goes to a major sporting, music or cultural event in southeast Queensland could soon be required to pay for public transport, whether they use it or not.

Powerful lobby group the Tourism and Transport Forum is pushing for the cost of public transport to be included in the ticket price at all events with crowds of more than 5000.

In a report to be released today, the TTF recommends the Queensland Government introduce mandatory integrated ticketing to the Ekka, and also other major events such as Riverstage concerts and the Big Day Out.

"The unwillingness of some event organisers to support integrated ticketing is not only disadvantaging event-goers but subjecting the broader community to traffic congestion," said TTF chief executive John Lee. "As a last resort, state governments should reserve the right to introduce legislation mandating integrated ticketing for large events."

Currently all Suncorp Stadium and Gabba events include public transport with a pre-purchased ticket and Translink also has arrangements with Skilled Park and Metricon Stadium on the Gold Coast and the Queensland Tennis Centre. But Ekka organisers have resisted because of the added cost, particularly on those who do not use public transport to get to the show.

RNA chief executive Jonathan Tunny said Translink had previously suggested $7 be added to the Ekka entry price.

"The proportion of people coming by train is between 30 and 35 per cent," said Mr Tunny. "Integrated ticketing isn't a solution for us."

Transport Minister Annastacia Palaszczuk declined to say if the Government would legislate to force the RNA to introduce integrated ticketing but said it had been a huge success at other venues.

"About 50 per cent of people going to the Gabba and 80 per cent of people going to Suncorp Stadium use public transport while more than 90 per cent of people used public transport to go to the Queensland Tennis Centre for the Brisbane International this year," said Ms Palaszczuk.

She said efforts were being made to "deliver the best public transport outcomes at non-sporting events such as the Ekka".

"Translink and the RNA had a meeting just last week which discussed transport options and possible integrated ticketing, with more meetings planned to discuss next year's Ekka arrangements," Ms Palaszczuk said. "We're also piloting an integrated ticket with QPAC for their current showing of Le Grand Cirque's Adrenaline."

Half baked projects, have long term consequences ...
Ozbob's Gallery Forum   Facebook  X   Mastodon  BlueSky

🡱 🡳