POLL: QUT Kelvin Grove service

[somebody]

Since there's been a bit of debate on this, I thought a poll was in order.

Please only select more than option if you think a multi pronged approach is appropriate.

[HappyTrainGuy]

Extend the 111 to the RBH. If there's going to be alot of empty running shorten the service ie terminate at Roma Street on Sundays.

[Stillwater]

A debate?  Seems to be a discussion among five or six people -- hardly earth shattering.

[somebody]

A debate?  Seems to be a discussion among five or six people -- hardly earth shattering.

Didn't say it was.

[somebody]

I've voted for more 393s.  Those on northern train lines shouldn't have to go via Roma St to reach RCH/QUT KG.  FWIW.

[SurfRail]

Extending the 111 and 222 to QUT has some merit for me.  Provides empty buses where the loading problems seem to be, at the rate of 12 per hour in peak and 8 per hour all other times, and most 111s will be 'tag' buses (14.5m Volvos).

[somebody]

Extending the 111 and 222 to QUT has some merit for me.  Provides empty buses where the loading problems seem to be, at the rate of 12 per hour in peak and 8 per hour all other times, and most 111s will be 'tag' buses (14.5m Volvos).

I would agree, but for me the 111 gets better bang/buck here than the 222.  As you point out, it is higher capacity buses, but also higher reliability as an all busway service.

[Golliwog]

Just speaking from experience with the UQ buses, but students don't seem overly concerned with reliability, if the service is frequent enough. I honestly couldn't tell you if any of the UQ Lakes services ran late/early as they come often enough that you don't notice.

[O_128]

Extending the 111 and 222 to QUT has some merit for me.  Provides empty buses where the loading problems seem to be, at the rate of 12 per hour in peak and 8 per hour all other times, and most 111s will be 'tag' buses (14.5m Volvos).

Woulnt be surprised if next year the 111 was extended to chermside on the busway and the 333 kept on the the surface roads, Its how a tram would run

[Mr X]

Just speaking from experience with the UQ buses, but students don't seem overly concerned with reliability, if the service is frequent enough. I honestly couldn't tell you if any of the UQ Lakes services ran late/early as they come often enough that you don't notice.

Another issue is the timing of the buses arrival/departure
Scheduling buses to depart and arrive at :55 past the hour will both miss students leaving lectures (you can't get to the bus in 5mins!) and will get students late to class. This is more important for routes like the 29 which leave at :53 or :08, thus students will take a 109 which would leave earlier than the 29 would and thus it has a low patronage.

[Golliwog]

I'll agree that yes timing is important, however you assume all students do on campus is go to class and then return home again. Theres a great deal more which leads to a more even spread, though I would certainly expect a large peak around the hour.

I would also point out that even though lectures/tutorials/etc are scheduled to end 10 minutes to the hour, hardly ever does this occur.

[somebody]

Woulnt be surprised if next year the 111 was extended to chermside on the busway and the 333 kept on the the surface roads, Its how a tram would run

I'd be fairly surprised if that occurred.  There's still the street running bit Kedron-Chermside, and I don't think people would be happy to suffer the loss in reliability from that.

[O_128]

Woulnt be surprised if next year the 111 was extended to chermside on the busway and the 333 kept on the the surface roads, Its how a tram would run

I'd be fairly surprised if that occurred.  There's still the street running bit Kedron-Chermside, and I don't think people would be happy to suffer the loss in reliability from that.

Its only 2 and a bit km, and in reality should be a bus lane with the busway station at chermside and the thing would be finished, but we know in QLD you have to spend another billion to connect it.

[STB]

I'll agree that yes timing is important, however you assume all students do on campus is go to class and then return home again. Theres a great deal more which leads to a more even spread, though I would certainly expect a large peak around the hour.

I would also point out that even though lectures/tutorials/etc are scheduled to end 10 minutes to the hour, hardly ever does this occur.

Not at QUT.  They start and end on the hour or half hour.  eg: 1pm to 2pm or 2pm to 3:30pm.  There's a quick changeover between the previous lecture/tutorial and the next one.  First lecture/tutorial starts at 8am and goes through until the final lecture/tutorial of the day at 9pm, Monday to Friday.

[Golliwog]

Yeah, I've never been quite sure why they have it as most run till about 5 minutes or less before the next class starts.