Northern Busway (Kedron to RBWH) routes

[SurfRail]

Possibly a leetle too soon to be discussing this, but given the fait accompli with which the Eastern Busway routes have been delivered I think it might be an opportune time to start discussing the Northern Busway network.

Anybody have any thoughts or notions about what should go and stop where to take advantage of this when open (around March 2012 from memory)?

[somebody]

One has to presume that the long mooted 330 BUZ hopefully on current stopping patterns will be a part of this, and combined with the 333 & 340.  370 may have to stay out on street.  375/379 I'm not sure about, but if they had portals to allow their branching points they could use it also.

[SurfRail]

One has to presume that the long mooted 330 BUZ hopefully on current stopping patterns will be a part of this, and combined with the 333 & 340.  370 may have to stay out on street.  375/379 I'm not sure about, but if they had portals to allow their branching points they could use it also.

If memory serves, the busway will be on-street buslanes up until immediately before where the 379 branches off at Maygar St, and there will be a local access point for the 375 (which in practice I expect will only be used by the P376).

If they had any sense they would find a way to get the 358 in there and beef up the frequency too.

[longboi]

If they had any sense they would find a way to get the 358 in there and beef up the frequency too.

According to the alignment there would be bus access off Swan St and directly after Kedron Park station but it almost seems not worth it considering the distance is ~100m.

I would think that all Gympie Rd services would make use of the Northern busway at some point. 321/370/379 would make use of it up to the end of the on-road section. The 321 would then continue right on Albion Rd (off-peak) and right on Norman St; 379 would turn left at Maygar St and 370 would continue along Gympie Rd as an all stops local service. There is apparently going to be bus access to Lamington Ave (Bradshaw St) just after Lutwyche station so the 375/6 would make use of the busway to that point. All other routes would use the entirety of the busway.

[HappyTrainGuy]

How about extending the 111 from Roma Street (Kedron-8 Mile Plains). Maybe even combine it with pre paid. Maybe even replace the 333 buz (Chermside-8 Mile Plains) and the Clem77 bus. It would help out with moving people within the inner city part where some services are struggling.

[O_128]

How about extending the 111 from Roma Street (Kedron-8 Mile Plains). Maybe even combine it with pre paid. Maybe even replace the 333 buz (Chermside-8 Mile Plains) and the Clem77 bus. It would help out with moving people within the inner city part where some services are struggling.

Ive been thinking this swell though it may be better to keep the 111 only on the busway for reliability. Though once the busway reaches chermside 1 route would make sense as this is how LRT would work.

I still think that the 109 should be moved to KGS and terminate at RBWH

[HappyTrainGuy]

If the 111 did replace the 333 would it help out at the Cultural Centre exit shuffle?

[dwb]

Possibly a leetle too soon to be discussing this, but given the fait accompli with which the Eastern Busway routes have been delivered I think it might be an opportune time to start discussing the Northern Busway network.

Anybody have any thoughts or notions about what should go and stop where to take advantage of this when open (around March 2012 from memory)?

Not too early, you'd think TL would well and truly be working on this already.

[SurfRail]

How about extending the 111 from Roma Street (Kedron-8 Mile Plains). Maybe even combine it with pre paid. Maybe even replace the 333 buz (Chermside-8 Mile Plains) and the Clem77 bus. It would help out with moving people within the inner city part where some services are struggling.

I would think that extending the 109 and 111 to QUT would be a good move, which could be funded partially by the deletion of the 393.

[STB]

How about extending the 111 from Roma Street (Kedron-8 Mile Plains). Maybe even combine it with pre paid. Maybe even replace the 333 buz (Chermside-8 Mile Plains) and the Clem77 bus. It would help out with moving people within the inner city part where some services are struggling.

I would think that extending the 109 and 111 to QUT would be a good move, which could be funded partially by the deletion of the 393.

As I posted in the '393' thread, I do know for good reason (I go to QUT KG everyday and use the INB), there is still demand between Bowen Hills and the INB namely RBWH and QUT KG.  Also, it would still make sense to retain the 393 to prevent northside passengers living to do the loop around via Roma St, it also balances out the loads between the southern users who transfer at Roma St, and the northern users who if the 393 was given a frequency boost and was more obvious at Bowen Hills, could be used by northside passengers who want access to RBWH and QUT KG.

I would not be advocating a scrapping of the 393, just a rethink on how it operates.

[somebody]

The more I think about it, the less I support 109 to Roma St or beyond.  We should be encouraging people to use the trains on the Roma St-Park Rd sector, rather than making it easier to use buses.  It's also quite a bit faster on the Sth Bris-Park Rd than the 109.

I'm still pretty negative about a 111 extension.  It would carry a lot of air at 9pm on a Saturday.  However, modifying the 88 into a QUT KG-8MP route would be completely logical IMO.  Solution for the 444 crowding this would "cause" is as I have posted previously.

[dwb]

The more I think about it, the less I support 109 to Roma St or beyond.  We should be encouraging people to use the trains on the Roma St-Park Rd sector, rather than making it easier to use buses.  It's also quite a bit faster on the Sth Bris-Park Rd than the 109.

I'm still pretty negative about a 111 extension.  It would carry a lot of air at 9pm on a Saturday.  However, modifying the 88 into a QUT KG-8MP route would be completely logical IMO.  Solution for the 444 crowding this would "cause" is as I have posted previously.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of a "Uni Glyder" that services UQ St Lucia through to Kelvin Grove QUT and RBWH via South East Busway, Inner Northern Busway including Gardens Point (via Goodwill Bridge)/ QCA/ Conservatorium and city.

Ed for clarity.

[dwb]

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of a "Uni Glyder" that services UQ St Lucia through to Kelvin Grove QUT and RBWH via Gardens Point/ QCA/ Conservatorium and city.

I think this is one of Brisbane's strongest and most logical "lines" and should be run as such, as ONE line.

[somebody]

Going off topic, but you mean serving Roma St, Parliament, then PAH and on to UQ?

I'm not a fan.

[SurfRail]

Going off topic, but you mean serving Roma St, Parliament, then PAH and on to UQ?

I'm not a fan.

Agreed.  South Bank and Goodwill Bridge is adequate to get people to QUT - it is well and truly off the line.

[somebody]

I was more thinking that I'd rather connect Parliament to Buranda via CCB than connecting Parliament to PAH via CCB.

[dwb]

Going off topic, but you mean serving Roma St, Parliament, then PAH and on to UQ?

I'm not a fan.

No, I mean serving UQ, PAH, Boggo Rd, Mater, South Bank, Cultural Centre, Roma St, QUTKG, RCH, RBWH.

I've previously stated I think the 800m/10min walk to QUT from South Bank is entirely acceptable.

[somebody]

The more I think about it, the less I support 109 to Roma St or beyond.  We should be encouraging people to use the trains on the Roma St-Park Rd sector, rather than making it easier to use buses.  It's also quite a bit faster on the Sth Bris-Park Rd than the 109.

I'm still pretty negative about a 111 extension.  It would carry a lot of air at 9pm on a Saturday.  However, modifying the 88 into a QUT KG-8MP route would be completely logical IMO.  Solution for the 444 crowding this would "cause" is as I have posted previously.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of a "Uni Glyder" that services UQ St Lucia through to Kelvin Grove QUT and RBWH via South East Busway, Inner Northern Busway including Gardens Point (via Goodwill Bridge)/ QCA/ Conservatorium and city.

Ed for clarity.

You could have just said: "I disagree" or "I support it" then here!

[dwb]

The more I think about it, the less I support 109 to Roma St or beyond.  We should be encouraging people to use the trains on the Roma St-Park Rd sector, rather than making it easier to use buses.  It's also quite a bit faster on the Sth Bris-Park Rd than the 109.

I'm still pretty negative about a 111 extension.  It would carry a lot of air at 9pm on a Saturday.  However, modifying the 88 into a QUT KG-8MP route would be completely logical IMO.  Solution for the 444 crowding this would "cause" is as I have posted previously.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of a "Uni Glyder" that services UQ St Lucia through to Kelvin Grove QUT and RBWH via South East Busway, Inner Northern Busway including Gardens Point (via Goodwill Bridge)/ QCA/ Conservatorium and city.

Ed for clarity.

You could have just said: "I disagree" or "I support it" then here!

I'm thinking of it as a line, whether this is by the busway now, or at some other stage as a segment of an inner city metro then so be it. Sometimes being overly specific limits peoples understanding of the concept.

[dwb]

Besides, I thought you would have remembered this post http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=3756.0