City Glider

[ButFli]

I would have thought the solution is to extend the 15 minute frequency period of the 199 on Friday and Saturday nights? It always seems strange that it stops at 11:30pm.

[ozbob]

I would have thought the solution is to extend the 15 minute frequency period of the 199 on Friday and Saturday nights? It always seems strange that it stops at 11:30pm.

Indeed, simple fix ..

[somebody]

Translink and the State Government have got a hide claming credit for Cityglider when they initialy refused to fund it and it only came into being as a BCC initiative funded by the BCC.

Bollocks, the entire plan was worked out between officers of both organisations then it all fell to pieces over ticketing and branding. in the end TL came through with the funds and delivered something that Campbell appears to have single handedly deliver.

Now that Campbell is out, perhaps BCC and TL will play better together over branding. I for one am sick of the indescrete yellow and blue!

Do you have any proof of this one?  My understanding is the BCC pay for the lions' share of the CityGlider.  And so they should, if it was their initiative.

I would have thought the solution is to extend the 15 minute frequency period of the 199 on Friday and Saturday nights? It always seems strange that it stops at 11:30pm.

Indeed, simple fix ..

+1.

I'd also add that the CityGlider on the West End side doesn't really need an all night service.  Maybe, possibly, through Newstead, but then an N300 would probably do and serve more people.

[somebody]

SteelPan, there is no reason to change the route on the West End side that I can see.  I do not see why the PT system should be responsible for the crime, and I find it in poor taste that some are using the crime to try to leverage changes to the PT system.

But having said that, the current system of the CityGlider being 4 times more frequent than the N199 in the wee hours of Sat & Sun is completely illogical.

[SteelPan]

Use a serious crime to leverage change - why not, if buses are running in "seriously" none peak times, along relatively little used streets, crime could become a very real issue of concern.  The Nightlink bus stops in the Valley and CBD are grouped together, to avoid passengers and transit operators being broken up into potentially vulnerable tiny groupings.  Old story, safety in numbers. IF it is genuine, that the Glider at off peak times travels down relatively little used streets, then that should be changed to putting those late night/early morning services into more heavily utilised streets, where people - particularly a female out for the night - will not be so vulnerable to the sad ferals of society.  I do not see such a call as "leveraging off", it is learning from and reducing the chances of this type of thing happening again.

[Apologies for the other thread].

[ozbob]

Statement

http://www.adrianschrinner.com/Newsroom/LatestNews/tabid/67/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/524/2-millionth-passenger-on-CityGlider-buses.aspx

2 millionth passenger on CityGlider buses

Posted on Thursday, 7 July, 2011

Brisbane's first 24 hour high frequency bus loop, the CityGlider, has now carried 2 million passengers in just over a year – almost double original predictions.

The CityGlider, which runs without a set timetable between West End and Teneriffe via the CBD, was delivered in April 2010 by the Can Do team.

The service was expected to carry 1 million passengers in its first 12 months. 

Just over a year later the service has now carried more than 2 million passengers.

Lord Mayor Graham Quirk said the CityGlider service continued to prove the knockers wrong and showed Brisbane commuters were ready for more high frequency services that didn't tie them to timetables.

"We promised to deliver Brisbane's first 24 hour high frequency bus service and not only did we put it on the road, but we've seen it become an instant hit with over 40,000 passengers a week," Cr Quirk said.

"The popularity of bus travel continues to skyrocket in this city in line with our commitment to put a record 500 new buses on the road this term, with over 77 million passengers last year.

"As a result Brisbane City Council buses are consistently carrying more passengers than the entire State Government CityTrain network in southeast Queensland."

Cr Quirk said the distinctly-marked CityGlider buses allowed all-door boarding and departed every five minutes during peak times and every 10-15 minutes outside of that.

They run 24 hours Friday and Saturdays and 18 hours the rest of the week.

He said the service was pre-paid only and commuters could use their Go Card to board the buses, which travel a maximum of two zones.

The CityGlider is a Brisbane City Council iniative and is being delivered with support from the Queensland Government through Translink.

Brisbane City Council bus patronage increased from 48 million to 77 million between 2004 and 2010 under the Can Do team.

In contrast, bus patronage increased by just 4 million passengers during the previous 13 years under the Soorley/Quinn Administration.

[dwb]

Can we have some more inner city Glider style routes please?

Perhaps Paddington to Woolloongabba?

[longboi]

Can we have some more inner city Glider style routes please?

Perhaps Paddington to Woolloongabba?

I'm really keen to see a high-frequency route be implemented along Main St and perhaps terminating at PAH instead of Wooloongabba.

[SurfRail]

Remember folks that the reason we have CityGlider is because it is meant to be "Light Light Rail" for the inner city flowing from the BCC's mass transit study a few years ago.  Don't bank on anything similar being rolled out anytime soon - at least not until there is some more depot space closer to the city (eg Sherwood or Eagle Farm) to take up the task being performed by other depots.

[longboi]

Seeing as Sherwood and Eagle Farm will be operational within the next two years I think its entirely appropriate to discuss potential new CityGlider routes.

[MaxHeadway]

The reason we have CityGlider is because it is meant to be "Light Light Rail" for the inner city

Or is that "light light light light wheeeee-I'm-floating-away rail"? Wasn't CityGlider supposed to be Class B (lane and traffic signal priority) right-of-way? So far it's Class C (no priority, shared with general traffic), except for a bus jump in Ann St and the Cultural Centre/Victoria Bridge stretch*. Still, it's remarkable to see the current Glider route achieving such high ridership, despite a lack of such improvements.

*Something I call Class BC, i.e. inbetween B and C, as you have the bus lanes but not signal priority.

[#Metro]

*Something I call Class BC, i.e. inbetween B and C, as you have the bus lanes but not signal priority.

B- ha ha!

Is there signal priority.... or is that just fluff???

The buses in Brisbane, off the busways are SLOW SLOW SLOW.
The stop spacing needs to be fixed up, bus lanes or T2 on main arterials and traffic light priority!

This is cheap to do!

[somebody]

*Something I call Class BC, i.e. inbetween B and C, as you have the bus lanes but not signal priority.

B- ha ha!

Is there signal priority.... or is that just fluff???

The buses in Brisbane, off the busways are SLOW SLOW SLOW.
The stop spacing needs to be fixed up, bus lanes or T2 on main arterials and traffic light priority!

This is cheap to do!

What do you mean?  Brisbane is obsessed with express buses.  As issues go, this one is well down the priority list.

[Sunbus610]

Mmmm, I wonder if we'll ever see the CityGlider 'BCC concept style' bus service expand to more routes one day??

[dwb]

Mmmm, I wonder if we'll ever see the CityGlider 'BCC concept style' bus service expand to more routes one day??

If it were to be painted green I don't see why not (except for perhaps Translink's obsession over fare evasion). They should use those cameras on board the bus to work out how many pax they're really carrying versus what they're earning fares off, I reckon the fare evasion wouldn't be huge but we need some numbers to prove it.

[Gazza]

As issues go, this one is well down the priority list.

No it's not.
We should do at TT suggested actually.