What should happen to route P88?

[#Metro]

A three day poll.
What should happen to route P88
http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/services-and-timetables/timetables/101213_88.pdf

This bus route has good frequency- see the timetable- it is effectively a BUZ if it weren't for the service finishing at 8pm most days.

I really think GCL BUZ would have more benefits than this bus route.
I've voted for peak hour intensive service because I think there would be demand

[#Metro]

Intensive peak hour only service would see approximately 48 bus services per day (one way) or 96 (both ways). Round this up to 100...
Weekend services would be removed entirely under this option.

[Golliwog]

If you went for intensive peak hour services, I think then you would change the other CC bridge services to either feed the 88, or be removed entirely. However, I don't think the 88 should become peak only. I think having a CC bridge route full time is useful, although perhaps adding a stop down the Parliament end of town would help as well.

I think however I would support the removal of the Indro end of this route in favour of improving/modifying the existing Western Suburbs routes.

[#Metro]

If you were going to feed the route 88 to replace the Captain Cook Bridge services as you suggest then you would require a much larger vehicle. In fact the vehicle would have to be enormous because approximately 50% of the busway traffic heading towards the CBD in the morning peak travels over the Captain Cook Bridge. The other half continues down to Mater Hill and Cultural Centre. So while this suggestion is more efficient it would require costly busway conversion to take the load.

Simply running P88 alongside other rockets would be less efficient but would avoid the non-starter that busway conversion is.

[somebody]

I voted other.

I say remove the western part, and revamp the remaining P88, 111, 160, 555 services into 3 routes, all leaving the city from Adelaide St.
- 555 BUZ: Adelaide St, via Cultural Centre/South Bank all to Springwood then as a 572 as per the current evening service.  I.e. absorbs the 572.
- 111/160 BUZ: Move to Adelaide St, terminate at Garden City Depot and co-ordinate with the 555 for a 7-8 minute service
- P88: Move to Adelaide St, serve Parliament, then via Captain Cook Bridge to Logan Hyperdome via busway and freeway i.e. only serving Springwood between 8 mile plains and Logan Hyperdome.  This one should leave about 3 minutes before the 555 to allow maximum possibility of seats on the 555 for the 572 people and also Logan People at the Cultural Centre etc.  Inbound, this one may as well use Elizabeth St to allow a Creek St dwell.

It is necessary to move to Adelaide St as you cannot enter the QSBS tunnel and serve Parliament head north/inbound with a reasonable route.

[#Metro]

I think BT will scream if P88 has to run to Logan. What, serving people outside the BCC ratepayer area!!! 

[somebody]

I think BT will scream if P88 has to run to Logan. What, serving people outside the BCC ratepayer area!!! 

Depends on who's paying.  It could be negotiated away.

[Golliwog]

Or just tell Newman to get over himself and his BCC council area first philosophy. Thats all I saw coming through with his suggestion of cancelling CRR and replacing it with an inner city metro.

[somebody]

Or just tell Newman to get over himself and his BCC council area first philosophy. Thats all I saw coming through with his suggestion of cancelling CRR and replacing it with an inner city metro.

Hate to say this again, but Err, no.

He would say the same thing as you would say if you were asked to spend money on a stranger.

[#Metro]

In principle BCC should not care, TL should just pay BT the same cost per km as it does for any other operator.
Why can't BCC pay for the portion of the bus route within BCC boundaries?

[Golliwog]

Or just tell Newman to get over himself and his BCC council area first philosophy. Thats all I saw coming through with his suggestion of cancelling CRR and replacing it with an inner city metro.

Hate to say this again, but Err, no.

He would say the same thing as you would say if you were asked to spend money on a stranger.

I agree with TT here. A route is a route, Translink doesn't pay them just for the parts inside BCC boundaries. BT also runs the 397, 398, 396 which for the very large majority run outside BCC boundaries (at the FG end of the route, the BCC boundary is the creek that runs on the other side of Samford Rd from the train station, and I'm pretty sure thats the boundary for most of that part of Brisbane. While 397, 398 could be dismissed as older legacy routes, I'm fairly sure the 396 is a fairly new one.

[achiruel]

Also the 140/150 go to Browns Plains which is in Logan City.

But back to the P88 I would like to see it continue along the Captain Cook Bridge/Riverside Expressway not stopping in the CBD.  Otherwise it's basically just a duplication of 111/444, except not serving MH/SB/CC.

[mufreight]

Rather tongue in cheek response, scrub it.