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BUZ: Are bigger buses required?

Started by #Metro, September 19, 2010, 11:25:40 AM

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#Metro

Below is a list of Brisbane's Current BUZ routes

    * City – Eight Mile Plains 111
    * City – Algester 130
    * City – Browns Plains 140
    * City – Browns Plains 150
    * New Farm-City – West End Ferry 199
    * City – Carindale 200
    * City – Chermside 333
    * City – Aspley 345
    * City – The Gap 385
    * City – Moggill 444
    * City – University of Queensland -St Lucia 412

Do any of these need to be arctic buses all day?
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somebody

111, 130 and 150 often have artics.  I'd think the next biggest candidate would be the 199 then 385.

longboi

With the 385, I hope Translink are building the new turnaround and bus stop at Enoggera Resevoir to accomodate artics...

Golliwog

Quote from: nikko on September 19, 2010, 14:04:04 PM
With the 385, I hope Translink are building the new turnaround and bus stop at Enoggera Resevoir to accomodate artics...

I thought that was half the reason they were building the new turnaround.

The 130 also regularly has the longer but not articulated buses (theres only 8 or something, Otto would probably know) that, IIRC, have a full size rear door.

I would suggest the 199 may need the artics, but I'm not sure how compatible they are with the route. If the 412 went artic, you might be able to reprise the 402 buses for use elsewhere as the capacity would be made up with the bigger 412 buses. The only problem could be the tightish roundabout they have to turn at to stop at UQ Chancellors Place.
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somebody

A possibility that the Enoggera Reservoir project needs to go ahead for artics on the 385.  I'm also fairly sure that the current stop in KGSBS is not suitable for artics.  And I would wonder if the 199 route can be done by artics.

Also for the 412 at UQ.  I'd be surprised, but you never know.  14.5m rigids are less flexible than the bendies.  No pun intended.

The final problem is that Toowong and Virginia depots do not have artics, or drivers qualified to drive them.  Bowen Hills is training some drivers on a 14.5m (tri-axle) rigid bus.

Sunbus610

Speaking of bigger buses, it will be interesting to see what bus routes these 60 new Volvo B12BLE EEV [Volgren] buses that are coming for Brisbane Transport will be used on. Rumours were going around initially that Bowen Hills ('A' depot) were going to get a batch of these for the CityGlider service hence driver training, 'A' depot decals etc however 1709 (the first one delivered so far) has now been transfered to Garden City depot so who knows. They'll more like will be utilised on busy southside bus routes including BUZ routes too. What this space I reckon!!
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somebody

To those of us mere mortals, what is a Volvo B12BLE EEV [Volgren] bus?

Sunbus610

Quote from: somebody on November 22, 2010, 13:43:59 PM
To those of us mere mortals, what is a Volvo B12BLE EEV [Volgren] bus?
Whoops, sorry somebody, it's a 14.5m long Rigid Steer Tag-Axle Low-Floor bus as shown HERE
Proud to be a Sunshine Coaster ..........

ButFli

Quote from: Golliwog on September 19, 2010, 16:30:43 PMI would suggest the 199 may need the artics, but I'm not sure how compatible they are with the route.
The 199 and/or the associated routes need a capacity boost but I don't think it can come from bigger buses. There are quite a few left hand turns that could not be made left-lane to left-lane and would need to use the whole width of the road. Technically possible but it would cause mayhem with other traffic. I also doubt they could make it into the Ivory St tunnel from the Brunswick St end.

Golliwog

Quote from: Sunbus610 on November 22, 2010, 13:52:53 PM
Quote from: somebody on November 22, 2010, 13:43:59 PM
To those of us mere mortals, what is a Volvo B12BLE EEV [Volgren] bus?
Whoops, sorry somebody, it's a 14.5m long Rigid Steer Tag-Axle Low-Floor bus as shown HERE

Win for full size rear door! As a side note, how exactly does BT go about their bus numbering, as I thought we were already up to the 1800's?
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#Metro

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Win for full size rear door! As a side note, how exactly does BT go about their bus numbering, as I thought we were already up to the 1800's?

Excellent!
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Sunbus610

Quote from: Golliwog on November 22, 2010, 17:20:52 PM
Quote from: Sunbus610 on November 22, 2010, 13:52:53 PM
Quote from: somebody on November 22, 2010, 13:43:59 PM
To those of us mere mortals, what is a Volvo B12BLE EEV [Volgren] bus?
Whoops, sorry somebody, it's a 14.5m long Rigid Steer Tag-Axle Low-Floor bus as shown HERE

Win for full size rear door! As a side note, how exactly does BT go about their bus numbering, as I thought we were already up to the 1800's?
Golliwog......have a sticky at this website mate http://www.btbuses.info/ for a bit more info to your question.
Proud to be a Sunshine Coaster ..........

Golliwog

Quote from: Sunbus610 on November 22, 2010, 19:05:10 PM
Quote from: Golliwog on November 22, 2010, 17:20:52 PM
Quote from: Sunbus610 on November 22, 2010, 13:52:53 PM
Quote from: somebody on November 22, 2010, 13:43:59 PM
To those of us mere mortals, what is a Volvo B12BLE EEV [Volgren] bus?
Whoops, sorry somebody, it's a 14.5m long Rigid Steer Tag-Axle Low-Floor bus as shown HERE

Win for full size rear door! As a side note, how exactly does BT go about their bus numbering, as I thought we were already up to the 1800's?
Golliwog......have a sticky at this website mate http://www.btbuses.info/ for a bit more info to your question.

Cheers. Have had a good look around. It doesn't go into the numbering scheem but in my breif stickybeak, I noted that in that it skips from 1701-1709 to 1801, but the 9 1700 are all the 14.5m long rigid buses so they seem to have kept these numberts aside for that purpose.
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