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ozbob

Queensland Parliament

https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2022/647-2022.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 647
Asked on 22 June 2022

DR C ROWAN ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)—

QUESTION:

With reference to Public Transport for the electorate of Moggill—
Will the Minister advise (a) if the State Government has undertaken any planning studies with
identified solutions for commuter rail access and (b) if so, which specific localities have been
identified, including potential linkages to either the Darra or Wacol train stations?

ANSWER:

I thank the Member for Moggill for the question.

The Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) understands the important role which public
transport plays in delivering a more connected, integrated, and accessible public transport
network for Queensland. The South East Queensland Regional Transport Plans 2021 (SEQRTP)
outlines the strategic direction for the transport system within the region over the next 15 years.
It can be accessed online at www.tmr.qld.gov.au/regionaltransportplans.

The Moggill Road corridor, between the suburbs of Moggill and Chapel Hill, has been identified
as an existing frequent bus link in the SEQRTP. It is currently serviced by the all-day bus route
444 (15-minute frequency) and the peak-only P443 route (10-minute frequency). During peak
periods, these two routes provide residents of Moggill, Bellbowrie, Pinjarra Hills, Kenmore, and
Chapel Hill a combined five-minute bus frequency to and from the Brisbane Central Business
District (CBD).
TMR is planning to commence a passenger transport study within the electorate of Moggill in the
2023–24 financial year. The Kenmore to CBD Moggill Road Passenger Transport Access Study
will investigate opportunities for infrastructure and network improvements on Moggill Road,
between Bellbowrie and the Brisbane CBD, to support the provision of a more reliable, efficient
and attractive passenger transport network that is accessible to everyone. This study will also
investigate opportunities for bus feeder connections to passenger rail at Indooroopilly station.
With regard to investigating public transport connections from the suburbs of Moggill and
Bellbowrie through to Wacol or Darra Station, the Member may be aware of recent Brisbane City
Council (BCC) planning (June 2020) for a proposed Bellbowrie Green Bridge. The proposed
active and public transport link from Bellbowrie would have permitted a public transport link
through to Wacol station. BCC has concluded planning for this link without gaining community
support and is no longer progressing this initiative. TMR is not planning to investigate these links
and associated service changes at this time.

A link to the Council Bellbowrie Green Bridge
planning status can be accessed through the link online at
www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/traffic-andtransport/roads-infrastructure-and-bikeways/green-bridges/bellbowrie-green-bridge.
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ozbob

Queensland Parliament

https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/tableOffice/questionsAnswers/2022/624-2022.pdf

Question on Notice
No. 624
Asked on 21 June 2022

DR C ROWAN ASKED MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND MAIN ROADS (HON M BAILEY)

QUESTION:

With reference to Public Transport within the electorate of Moggill—
Will the Minister advise if the State Government will commit to additional 443 bus services, and
specifically, for peak periods both in the morning and afternoon?

ANSWER:

I thank the Member for Moggill for the question.

The P443 service is a pre-paid 'Rocket' service designed to offer peak hour services from Moggill
to the city to support increased demand during peak periods. This service complements the
all-day high frequency route 444.

There are 10 inbound P443 trips during the morning commuter peak and six outbound services
during the afternoon commuter peak, operating at a 10-minute frequency. Recent patronage
analysis indicates that P443 services are currently operating with spare passenger capacity.
Given the current levels of provision on both routes P443 and 444, and current levels of demand,
Translink does not plan to increase the frequency of Route P443 at this time.
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Cazza

It's not the frequency of the P443 that needs increasing, it's the span of hours, particularly in the PM. The last IB service gets into the City at just 8:32am (compare that with nearly 10am for a number of Algester rockets), with the first OB service of an afternoon starting from KGS at just 4:53pm! Compare that to a number of other arvo peak hour route starting times like the 357 to Eatonvale at 2:55pm, 156 to Stretton at 3:04pm and 3:24pm, 131 to Parkinson at 3:09pm and P455 to Riverhills at 3:35pm. The P443 is extremely poor in comparison.

In fact, out of all the PM peak TfB routes (aside from the 114, P173 and 416 that operate just 1 PM service), the P443 has the latest first OB departure time, yet has the 7th highest peak route patronage (18/19 FY).

Data from Sep 2019 (pre-COVID) shows it is one of the busiest peak services for pax/service, averaging 39 people/IB trip and 36 people/OB trip. There are only three other peak hour routes that carry more/service in the PM, being 118 (44/service), P206 (43/service) and P208 (40/service).

The thing about the P443 is that it is faster than the 444 (both physically and psychologically), with significantly more reliable journey times than Milton Road, Coronation Dr and Moggill Rd through Taringa/Indro that the 444 has to face.

Having OB services start from around 3:15pm or so for the number of schools in the CBD area, running through until around 6:15pm would be hugely beneficial for commuters, taking some of the weight off the 444 during the PM school peak. It also means that students from Grammar, Terrace and KG, plus QUT students and hospital staff, can use the P443 in both directions, rather than just in the AM like at present.

Jonno

This is why accessibility not route coverage is so important! It shows that at various time of the day/night the city is not accessible by public transport despite's a bus stop being within 400m of every suburban house (I think the rule is something like that)

verbatim9

Moggill just needs their Green Bridge that allows for PT, as well as active transport to connect to Darra station and the Centenary freeway/bikeway During flood events it can be open access to all vehicles.

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